Car Key = Switchblade ??


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waterhouse
June 23, 2005, 11:07 AM
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442853

There was a recent thread dicussing switchblades in Texas.

An article in the Austin paper today concerns a man who tried to clear security at DFW. I couldn't find an online copy of the article, but did find a forum post by the guy in question.

He has an Audi, which apparently has a key that folds into a little box (so that the key doesn't poke a hole in your pants pocket, according to the article). I've seen VW keys that are similar. You push a button and the key part pops out. This was ruled a switchblade by TSA and confiscated. The keys are $300 to replace.

Just a heads up, you might want to stick your Audi and VW keys in your checked baggage along with your guns and knives. :cuss:

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Erich
June 23, 2005, 11:10 AM
Both my VW and my Volvo keys do this. :rolleyes:

Once again, idiocy from our public servants. Everyone getting their tax dollars' worth?

hso
June 23, 2005, 11:13 AM
Ok, that's just crazy. I think I'd be getting my congresscritters involved and be riding the local TV and newpapers on this. Might want to get Audi and VW US involved also. I've sent Audi Corporate an email asking about the problem and linking the website.

El Tejon
June 23, 2005, 11:52 AM
Time for a wave of angry letters.

Pity that this is necessary. :fire:

Zrex
June 23, 2005, 12:34 PM
My wife flew out of DFW airport on June the 4th with her VW "switchblade" car key. She was allowed to keep it.

geekWithA.45
June 23, 2005, 01:57 PM
Soo much wrong here, starting with car keys that cost $300.

logical
June 23, 2005, 02:28 PM
never mind

R.H. Lee
June 23, 2005, 02:34 PM
I thought TSA was gonna give people envelopes so they could mail 'contraband' :rolleyes: items back to themselves rather than having it confiscated?

Mr. X
June 23, 2005, 02:36 PM
Soo much wrong here, starting with car keys that cost $300.

Well, if you can afford to drive an overpriced VW.... :neener:

Erich
June 23, 2005, 02:43 PM
VWs aren't much better - this thread caused me to call my VW dealer to ask what a replacement key would cost for my 2002 Jetta: $250.00! :eek:

HankB
June 23, 2005, 02:45 PM
I wouldn't have made my flight. I'd probably be in jail.

Can it be that there's a move afoot to "test the waters" and see just how much people WILL meekly stand for?

Mr. X
June 23, 2005, 02:46 PM
With all the electrical issues the VWs are plagued with, it probably wouldn't start anyway; hotwire it instead. ;)

Standing Wolf
June 23, 2005, 03:36 PM
This was ruled a switchblade by TSA and confiscated. The keys are $300 to replace.

It's time to hire an assault lawyer.

logical
June 23, 2005, 03:47 PM
I used to think switchblades were knives....learn something new every day.

Cindog
June 23, 2005, 04:16 PM
Did anyone see the tv spot that the guy who had his key taken did? It was supposed to run on June 21st at 1:00 or 3:00 (see here (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=442853&page=5&pp=15)). Has this story been picked up by any of the national media?

logical
June 23, 2005, 04:28 PM
If a terrorist ever attempts to take over a plane with his VW key, I will overtake him with the superior firepower of my spring loaded self-opening mini-umbrella (AKA a switchblade no doubt)......which I took on about 60 flights last year.

scottgun
June 23, 2005, 04:32 PM
How about the combs that look like the old style switch blades?
The TSA would probably confiscate that too.

Has the TSA ever been sued? Can the be sued or do they have immunity like the rest of the gov't.

Its time for some accountability.

TallPine
June 23, 2005, 05:14 PM
In other news, an Audi car key had to be surgically removed from a TSA agent today, in an incident that authorities described as ....

:fire:

Old NFO
June 23, 2005, 05:14 PM
FYI folks, you have the "option" of exiting the security check point and finding a mail drop to mail the offending item to yourself, OR you can stick it in your luggage and then go back to the main counter and check your luggage (been there, done that TWICE). Mercedes also has the same type key. :banghead:

Jim Diver
June 23, 2005, 06:36 PM
Mailing it back to yourself is fine an dandy, cept you are now stranded at the airport when you want to drive home....

This came to mind when read this.

dpesec
June 23, 2005, 09:16 PM
Priceless,
but remember this, when you take your shoes off, perhaps velcro would be better. So they don't even trust the people for this.

dev_null
June 23, 2005, 11:03 PM
Good luck finding a mail drop. They removed all the mail boxes in case they might have bombs in them.

P95Carry
June 23, 2005, 11:30 PM
I find it hard to equate (on equal terms) ''blade'' and ''key'' - am I missing something?

They most certainly are - brains!! :banghead: :banghead:

It just goes on getting worse - no wonder I have zero inclination to want to fly commercial, ever again.

Cesiumsponge
June 23, 2005, 11:40 PM
Sometimes real life is stranger than fiction.

Will they consider non-folding standard car and house keys as fixed-blade weapons now?

P95Carry
June 23, 2005, 11:45 PM
Will they consider non-folding standard car and house keys as fixed-blade weapons now? Give it time - give it time! All is possible where TSA is concerned. Heck - a key can be really nasty at making scratches - about as bad as long finger nails.

There's a thought - ''Sorry Sir/Madam - we cannot let you board until those nails are clipped. Oh sorry again - forgot, we have already confiscated your nail clippers and scissors!'' :rolleyes: :o

RavenVT100
June 24, 2005, 12:11 AM
Hey, my Volvo has a key like that. It went through airport security inside one of my carry-on items recently. Guess the TSA dropped the ball on that one.

Blue Jays
June 24, 2005, 12:14 AM
Hi All-
Originally posted by HankB:
"...Can it be that there's a move afoot to "test the waters" and see just how much people WILL meekly stand for?..."That is a fantastic theory. I've shared this same feeling with friends and family with regard to the police roadblocks euphemistically called "DMV checkpoints" for license, insurance, inspection, and registration paperwork. I've encountered these checkpoints twice in the same county on the same day...within thirty minutes of each other. HankB, you can certainly say "testing the waters of the meek" again!

The truly pathetic part is that there are plenty of sheeple who would nod their heads in agreement when an Audi or VW key is confiscated by TSA personnel. We are a country that is beginning to lose its way. I guess they'll just say that it is For The ChildrenTM to dodge any negative coverage.

As an A4 owner, I'll have to get out of the habit of subconciously "playing" with my automatic key fob. Sheesh.

~ Blue Jays ~

R.H. Lee
June 24, 2005, 12:39 AM
Mailing it back to yourself is fine an dandy, cept you are now stranded at the airport when you want to drive home....
Not me. I've got a spare underneath the car in a magnetic box. :D

peacefuljeffrey
June 24, 2005, 01:20 AM
Has the TSA ever been sued? Can the be sued or do they have immunity like the rest of the gov't.

Its time for some accountability.

John Ross had ideas for how to hold them accountable, vividly portrayed in Unintended Consequences (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1888118040/qid=1119586759/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8265859-6060743?v=glance&s=books&n=507846).

-Jeffrey


(Thanks for the assist, Harry.) :)

Harry Tuttle
June 24, 2005, 01:32 AM
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My VW beetle switchblade key is a frightening thing

Why its a nearly as sharp as a soup spoon
The teeth of the key are inside a channel cut and the end is square

a regular key is much more dangerous


i gather the SNAFU is
Hire the Incompetent,
they are Fun to Watch

i'm rather suprised no one has maliciously monkey wrenched the airports since 9/11. A martyr with a thong garrote could makes us all change our shorts.

P95Carry
June 24, 2005, 01:35 AM
Not following that one Harry! :confused:

SMMAssociates
June 24, 2005, 02:39 AM
Just sitting here thinking about the keys to two of three Ford products in the driveway.

No "switchblade", but you don't want to get hit by the keys. Big solid section that contains the electronics and a very sharp 2" or so of key.

Might take a little skill, but it would be very effective.

I'm also hearing that you can be fined for even trying to bring those nail clippers on board now.... Fined a lot.

Seems to me that the terrorists have won - we're turning into prisoners in our own country. :fire:

Anything can be used as a weapon....

I don't much care to fly anyway, but this is getting way out of hand.

crofrog
June 24, 2005, 02:41 AM
Not me. I've got a spare underneath the car in a magnetic box.

If you could just PM me where you normally park your car and the plate numbers that would be awesome :neener:

Chris

only1asterisk
June 24, 2005, 02:45 AM
As an A4 owner, I'll have to get out of the habit of subconciously "playing" with my automatic key fob. Sheesh.

Me too.

David

Kharn
June 24, 2005, 02:45 AM
I've had to do the "Oh CRAP" jog back to the ticket counter to check a bag I was previously going to carry on (I'd been running late, so I didnt realize my CRKT was still in my pocket until after I'd gotten my ticket but before I got to security, so my 2-suiter went into the bowels of BWI).

If anyone wants to give me a car with such a key, I'd be willing to take it through security the 5-8 times a month I fly. :evil:

Kharn

c_yeager
June 24, 2005, 04:54 AM
I thought TSA was gonna give people envelopes so they could mail 'contraband' items back to themselves rather than having it confiscated?

Why would they ever do this? Go search Ebay for "NTSA" and you can see why the KEEP everything they confiscate.

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