Update on Oakville, IN man with guns/ammo removed from his home


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Doug Add
June 23, 2005, 02:25 PM
The initial post was closed due to unrelated foolishness, hopefully this one can stay on topic and not degenerate.

I read this paper online everyday because it is my hometown paper, as a Hoosier relocated to the South. Today's issue has the following article which gives a bit more information: Relative protests seizure of man's guns and ammo (http://www.thestarpress.com/articles/6/041877-3876-001.html).

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Justin
June 23, 2005, 03:06 PM
Investigators would not release photos of the seizure or an inventory of everything that was confiscated, saying that the investigation is still ongoing. Peculiar. Usually the first thing they do is lay out the "arsenal" for the media.

fletcher
June 23, 2005, 03:35 PM
The weapons were a threat to neighbors because Wilkinson had been heating his home with kerosene and space heaters near containers of gunpowder and other hazards, Sheridan said.

"If there would've been a fire that broke out, it not only would have destroyed the house, but potentially the houses around his residence," Sheridan said.

:rolleyes: If any of you have a house that can catch on fire, you better turn over your ammo, it might kill your neighbors.

migoi
June 23, 2005, 05:33 PM
"The gunpowder and black powder were destroyed because police determined the explosive materials were too volatile to store in a county building, Sheridan said."

We better start evacuating all the Sports Authority's, Walmarts, and gun stores in the nation....doncha know they're just powder kegs waiting to explode?

I think the key here is that the police are being real reluctant to release any details as to exactly what they confiscated. Sounds like someone's trying to open the can of Ivory hydrated lime and regular table salt in prep for a good whitewash job.

I'm also wondering about the dollar value on the "arsenal" versus giving the firearm count. Maybe because it's easier for a gun or two to walk off if just a lump sum value is given instead of setting up a situation where every singe gun would have to be accounted for?

At least we're better off than the citizens (del citizens...replace with subjects) of Zimbabwe... at least for now.

migoi

edited to add: Comment of the destroy the neighbors house... as close as my current house sets to the neighbors on either side, a house fire has a very high probability of jumping the fence, with ammo or without. I guess the only way to make my house safe is to plow my neighbors housing under.

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Old NFO
June 23, 2005, 06:00 PM
If I were the family, I'd be pushing NOW for an accounting and reimbursement for the destroyed items. That is (something that would tick off Art's Grammaw) ridiculous! :banghead:
I would also be filing for a return of the items to a family member.

wmenorr67
June 23, 2005, 06:05 PM
Let this be a lesson for all of us. If a relative seems unstable be sure to secure the firearms and related items before calling the police. That way the police cannot seize what is not there.

rhubarb
June 23, 2005, 06:22 PM
They were acting according to department policy when the deputies removed the weapons from the home of someone believed to be suicidal, Sheridan said.

For now the estimated $30,000 in guns and 2,000 pounds of ammunition are considered in "safekeeping" until prosecutors and the county attorney can determine whether Wilkinson is stable enough to have them back.

"This is all standard procedures that we do weekly," the sheriff said. This sheriff confiscates tens of thousands of dollars worth of property of people of whose mental state they are unsure. They blow up said property if they don't want to take care of it. Weekly?

I know that if it was me and the law enforcement authorities had stolen $30,000 worth of guns, ammo and reloading supplies from me, it would be at least decades before I would return to any semblance of a stable mental state. Fat chance Mr. Wilkinson will ever see his property again even though he apparently committed no crime in amassing this impressive collection nor did he commit any crime leading up to its theft.

Illegal search and seizure.

Zundfolge
June 23, 2005, 06:48 PM
oops

VARifleman
June 23, 2005, 07:00 PM
The gunpowder and black powder were destroyed because police determined the explosive materials were too volatile to store in a county building, Sheridan said.
Any idea how much that would cost to replace?

Standing Wolf
June 23, 2005, 09:33 PM
Sounds like someone's trying to open the can of Ivory hydrated lime and regular table salt in prep for a good whitewash job.

Yep. I'd guess the lawyers funded by contributions from the tax payers are already double- and triple-checking the story.

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