Looking for an FFL in Maryland


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nico
June 28, 2005, 08:57 PM
I'm looking to buy a handgun and i seems like out of state prices are often $100 or more less than prices I've seen here in MD. I remember seeing someone mention an FFL in the state that will do transfers for $15. Does anyone know of the place or have a good FFL they can recommend?

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Chris Rhines
June 28, 2005, 09:54 PM
Me.

$15 for rifles and shotguns, $30 for handguns and regulated weapons (the extra $15 goes straight to the State Po-Po.)

PM me, or shoot me an email at cjrhines@comcast.net.

- Chris

JBP
June 29, 2005, 03:07 PM
Check out Auction Arms (http://www.auctionarms.com/help/FFLNetwork.cfm) and Gunbroker (http://www.gunbroker.com/User/DealerNetwork.asp) for the FFL closest to you.

anapex
June 29, 2005, 04:04 PM
Nico, Chris really is a good deal. I haven't gone through him for anything but every shop in my area is anywhere from $50-$100.

bigjoegood1
June 29, 2005, 06:09 PM
He's a great guy!

Cliff
June 29, 2005, 09:01 PM
Glad to know this Chris. I'll be talking to you in the future.

nico
June 29, 2005, 09:46 PM
Thanks for the info. Chris, if I need your services I'll definitely drop you a line, but I think I found the gun I want at the Gun Rack :D

nash
June 29, 2005, 10:52 PM
On a related topic, why are MD prices so high? Is there some sort of tax that inflates prices?

nico
June 29, 2005, 11:01 PM
I think it has something to do with the ballistic fingerprinting BS, but other than that, I'm not sure. You also have to pay an additional $30 for an "internal lock" on new guns made after 2003, but that's not part of the advertized price.

anapex
June 30, 2005, 01:23 PM
I would say prices are high because of the ballistic fingerprinting and the handgun roster. Then toss in the $30-$50 internal lock (if the gun doesn't have one built in). All these hoops just make the prices jump. Just remember that next legislative session!

nico
June 30, 2005, 02:10 PM
Well, the CZ75 I looked at last night was $500 and doesn't require an internal lock because it's a pre-'03. That still puts it at at least $50 more than in other states.

nico
June 30, 2005, 04:14 PM
Another question for the folks who know: If I buy a post-'03 gun and have it shipped to an FFL in state (like Chris), do I have to buy an "internal lock" to go with it and pay sales tax?

K-Romulus
June 30, 2005, 04:43 PM
Contact Chris or his dad for your transfer.

They have helped me a few times with purchase transfers, and are also experienced gunsmiths. Chris helped get my AR un-screwed.

They can also give you the low-down on the various MD-regs, the "internal lock" nonsense, and what you are "allowed" :rolleyes: to purchase so that you can stay legal here in the "Free State." :rolleyes:

Prices are much cheaper if you buy from out-of-state, even with the transfer fees and shipping. Used CPO Sig P226 = $460 shipped from Ordnance Outsellers + $35 transfer + $22 direct-buy VisuLock,

vs.
Used P226 in Rockville gun shop, selling for $700 + tax + $20-$30 gun store MSP paperwork fee + $25-$40 gun store price VisuLock :eek: . . .

pcf
June 30, 2005, 06:17 PM
Nico,
First of all the handgun has to approved by MDSP, and be listed on the Handgun Roster. List can be found here: http://www.mdsp.org/services/handgun.asp

if the handgun was manufactured post '03 it has to have an internal lock installed prior to transfer. List can be found here: http://www.mdsp.org/downloads/Handgun_Safety_devices.pdf

Visualock's and interbore locks can be installed in most revolvers and semi auto pistols. Omega locks can be installed in most auto pistols. Once you take possesion of the handgun you never have to use the lock again.

If it is a new handgun a factory supplied fired shell casing has to be supplied, regardless of date manufactured. Used handgun's don't require fired shell casings.

If your buying a 44Magnum with 7.5" to 9" barrel I will gladly lend you my visualock. I used to have a better selection to lend out, but most have not been returned.

nico
June 30, 2005, 06:25 PM
pcf, it's really an issue of whether the $419 CZ75 SA on Gunbroker ends up being cheaper after all the fees (lock, transfer, shipping) than the $500 CZ75 SA I looked at yesterday. I don't see CZ on that list, but I know they're legal. It's starting to sound like I'd be better off buying the gun I looked at yesterday.

Does anybody know if I'd have to pay sales tax on the transfered gun?

pcf
June 30, 2005, 06:44 PM
Nico,
The only place that charges sales tax for an out of state sale is A&D Pawn. Jessup Pawn and Loan doesn't and a transfer cost $35 (including MDSP fees). It seems that Chris Rhines is the best deal.

$500 + $25tax + $10MDSP fee = $535

$420 + $25Shipping + $30FFL/MDSP + $20Interbore lock = $495

Check out sportingarms.com, kstactical.com or impactguns.com for possibly a better price.

Good Luck!

Jim K
June 30, 2005, 06:56 PM
There are a couple of shops in the Frederick area that will do transfers for a reasonable amount, but there is no escaping the $10 state fee. Plus there is no way to get around the laws on cartridge cases and safety lock if the gun was made after those laws were passed. The dealer CAN'T transfer the gun to the buyer unless those laws are complied with, no matter where it came from or how he obtains it.

Jim

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