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Clean97GTI
June 28, 2005, 09:06 PM
Just a quick question.

How do I remove the bayonet mount from my Mosin-Nagant M44?

I've got a scout-ish rifle planned and the bayonet doesn't work well the plan.
I also don't want to hear about keeping it original. Its a M-N and they are still selling for $80 at Big-5.

I'll buy another one to keep original. Besides, its not like I couldn't put it back to original with a little work.

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Commissar Gribb
June 28, 2005, 10:03 PM
get an M39

less work- more "scoutish"

Clean97GTI
June 28, 2005, 10:16 PM
OK, how about I not ruin an increasingly rare M39 and just work on my current M44.

The reason I decided to do this with the M44 is because they are still very plentiful and cheap. I'm not taking a chance at ruining a more historical rifle. The M44 I have saw very little use and was probably sitting in a warehouse for many years. The numbers even match!

Lets try this again. How do I remove the bayonet mount from my M44?
Is it just pinned on or will I need to do some cutting?

-edit- Makarov.com is doing a sweet deal on the stock, bipod, scope and mount for this project. I'm probably going to pick it up to make this painless and simple. I also have quite a bit of time invested in a trigger for this rifle and don't want to have to start over with a new rifle.

spin180
June 29, 2005, 03:32 AM
I have heard that M44 bayonet mounts may either be pinned or welded in place; and in some instances pinned and soldered.

If the bayo mount on yours is pinned, you should be able to see the pin. However, looking at my M44, I can't see any indication that it is pinned on at all.

I'd imagine you'll end up having to grind it off.

:)

DeputyVaughn
June 29, 2005, 06:59 AM
I've done the M44 scout project. The front sight assembly and bayonet come off after removing 2 pins on the underside of the assembly. It will leave about 4 inches of unfinished turned down barrel at the end of the rifle. I had mine cut and recrowned.

Scott

noonanda
June 29, 2005, 08:40 AM
The reason I decided to do this with the M44 is because they are still very plentiful and cheap. I'm not taking a chance at ruining a more historical rifle. The M44 I have saw very little use and was probably sitting in a warehouse for many years. The numbers even match!

If you bought it from big 5, it is a century import. These were rearsenaled so just because it looks new it probably aint. What year was it made if you dont mind me asking?

I aint gonna give you hell over what you want to do to your rifle, ultimately to each his own. But you may want to pick up a M-38 instead, no bayonet mount to worry about so less work.

The M-44 bayo mount can be a real biotch to take off from what I have been told, They must have been put on by 800 lb gorillas

George S.
June 29, 2005, 09:49 AM
When the M38's, M44's and even the 91/30's were rearsenaled, many of the rifles got nrew parts that did not have any numbers on them at all. The workers stamped the same number as was on the receiver onto the rreplacement parts. So the receiver number is the original number, but there could be pieces that were stamped to "match".

In any event, I would keep the M44 as it is and find a Big 5 M38 rifle when they come on sale for the typical $79 and use that for your project. Granted, there are lots of them around, but many are not in the best of shape. I've been looking at M44's at both local Big 5 stores for about 6 months now, and everytime I go in, the rifles they have are in pretty poor shape. I've been very lucky to find a 91/30 there (Izzi 1931 hex receiver in excellent condition) and I found a Aztec import M38 that was also in excellent condition at a local gun show for $80.

noonanda
June 29, 2005, 12:52 PM
here is a pic of my M-38 in scout scope configuration. no permanent mods for me.

http://www.picturefuse.com/picdetail.php?picid=37998

Clean97GTI
June 30, 2005, 07:24 PM
My M44 is stamped 1944. It is counterbored as well.

The only reason I believe this weapon has seen little use is that the bore is in very good shape and the metal parts of the gun show very few signs of use. True, they may have gotten a quickie re-finish, but there are no scratches or gouges in it. I don't see any metal pitting that would indicate rust or corrosion. The weapon is a Century import (it is marked as such)

The only reason I was considering using this one is that it is in such good shape. This rifle could very well end up serving as a deer rifle as well as an anti-blue helmet-wearing-zombie weapon.
I want an accurate, good quality weapon for this but don't want to potentially ruin a more rare specimen. M38's in such good condition are getting rare. I'd rather go M38, but haven't found one I like yet. There is a gun show coming up, so I'll keep an eye out for a suitable candidate.

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