What gun for catfish?


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JohnBT
June 30, 2005, 11:11 AM
Assuming you couldn't get this Mekong River catfish into your boat, would you use a handgun, rifle or shotgun to kill it? Let's say you only have a handgun - what type of bullet? JT

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/06/30/PH2005063000459.jpg


"In this photo released by World Wildlife Fund-National Geographic, two Thai fishermen show a 293-kilogram (646-pound) giant catfish they caught from the Mekong River in Chiang Khong district of Chiang Rai province, northern Thailand Saturday, June 11, 2005. Thai fishermen have caught this giant catfish believed to be the world's heaviest living freshwater fish but died and was eaten after environmentalists and officials negotiated for its release to allow it to spawn. (AP Photo/Suthep Kritsanavarin, HO)" - Washington Post

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El Tejon
June 30, 2005, 11:16 AM
It takes an entire village to eat a catfish. :D

jobu07
June 30, 2005, 11:17 AM
How thick is the skin on a normal catfish?

Dave R
June 30, 2005, 11:23 AM
If its skin is anything like channel cats, its tough! Takes a good filet knife to cut catfish skin. You'd need FMJ for penetration. Bigger the better.

Tim3256
June 30, 2005, 11:27 AM
What gun for catfish?

Upon careful consideration, I'll have to say that I believe.......









Catfish should NOT be given guns. ;)

GunGoBoom
June 30, 2005, 11:32 AM
Robert Duvall and Michael Caine used a good ol' shotgun in Second Hand Lions. :) Man that is a big fishie. How is it that the tail on that catfish is so perfectly spread up and down, as if it's been shellacked into place? Methinks this could be a hoax.

boofus
June 30, 2005, 11:35 AM
For a fish? A big net of course. Who wants to eat a blown up fish?
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No_Brakes23
June 30, 2005, 11:42 AM
7.62x25?

Justin
June 30, 2005, 11:59 AM
:eek:

Serbu Super Shorty.

Slugs.

Egads.

JamisJockey
June 30, 2005, 12:34 PM
I've used 9mm and .410 slugs to dispatch sharks in that size range, so I'd be comfortable with either. Of course, we're talking about leaning over the gunwales and taking reasonably careful aim at less than 3'. A couple shots to the brain area usually do it.

El Tejon
June 30, 2005, 12:56 PM
Jamis, "what do you know about sharks? Arrr, I served aboard the Indianapolis. The Indianapolis?" :D

Everyone knows you need an M-1 for sharks! :cool:

Zundfolge
June 30, 2005, 01:04 PM
I dunno about what gun, but I'm prepared for that catfish!

http://www.worldslargestthings.com/washington/fryingpanSubheader.jpg
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JamisJockey
June 30, 2005, 01:09 PM
Jamis, "what do you know about sharks? Arrr, I served aboard the Indianapolis. The Indianapolis?"

Where in the hell do you think I got this peg-leg and eye patch?
:neener:

entropy
June 30, 2005, 01:20 PM
My uncle used to use a .22 Kit Gun on muskies. Had one flop it's way into the boat, he shot it, putting a hole in the bottom. :p Had to start the motor up and head for shore quick and pull the boat up on shore.

I'd use a long spike through the forehead of that cat myself. I used a big nail on the channel cats I would catch on the Mississippi and St. Croix rivers.

Zundfolge, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/mosinfan/roflyellow.gif I'll bring the dirty rice!

Harry Tuttle
June 30, 2005, 01:55 PM
sushi!
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/06/photogalleries/giantcatfish/images/primary/catfish4.jpg
After a record-breaking Mekong giant catfish died, residents of Hat Khrai, a Thai village on the Mekong River, butchered the fish for its meat.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/06/photogalleries/giantcatfish/photo4.html

entropy
June 30, 2005, 01:59 PM
That's Japanese. But you could make a heck of a lot of nunc mam (fish sauce) with that cat! ;) Or a big bowl of Tom Yup. (fish soup)

MechAg94
June 30, 2005, 02:11 PM
My brother bow fishes. He said it would take At Least two arrows. :D

Not in Texas though since they are game fish. :)

Car Knocker
June 30, 2005, 02:12 PM
A gentleman I knew who grew up in Oklahoma in the 1930's would often tell of shooting 100+ pound catfish with a .22 rifle. His family was very poor and the fish were a major factor in their diet.

SLCDave
June 30, 2005, 02:38 PM
.460 S&w

72Rover
June 30, 2005, 02:54 PM
The code of Virginia states that it is illegal to shoot fish - with one exception. There's a very limited 'open season' in one or two counties in the southwestern part of the state where it is legal. Shooting from trees, the locals favor large-caliber rounds like the .45-70, as the bullet makes a big concussion when it strikes the water, stunning the fish. Presumably, the fish floats downstream to be retreived by another person with a net.

MudPuppy
June 30, 2005, 02:59 PM
For a CATfish? A Charter Arms BULLDOG! :neener:


That's one big honking fish!

Khaotic
June 30, 2005, 03:01 PM
My uncle used to use a .22 Kit Gun on muskies. Had one flop it's way into the boat, he shot it, putting a hole in the bottom. Had to start the motor up and head for shore quick and pull the boat up on shore.

Muskies.. *twitch*.. :uhoh:

Me and a buddy were fishing (ok, he was fishing, I was getting ploshed on his beer) and he pulled one of those mean lil suckers up and in close.. didja know they're wickedly strong and extremely vicious ?
Them some damned scary fish.. we too holed our boat during the struggle, resulting in me cutting the tops off two empty beer cans and bailing with them as my bud motored us to shore... wow a lot of water can get into a boat from a tiny little hole!

If a mere muskie gave me that much trouble, I'd hate to see how much THAT thing would be :what:

Depth charges guys... Depth charges... *ping*, *ping*... BOOM!

-K

TMM
June 30, 2005, 03:02 PM
.357 magnum. not too big, not too small. good penetrator, makes a decent sized hole.

~TMM

enfield303
June 30, 2005, 03:14 PM
:D :what: Umm...What caliber does dynamite come in? :what: :D

mountain_cowboy
June 30, 2005, 03:14 PM
Congratulations, SLCDave, for being the first Highroader to offer the .460 S&w in response to a "What Caliber for ...?" thread. :D

Godfather
June 30, 2005, 03:18 PM
.480 Ruger

Maybe an exploding harpoon or two.

Some C-4.

And a small tactical nuke.


Oh, don't foret to use depleted uranium ammo in the .480/

entropy
June 30, 2005, 03:43 PM
didja know they're wickedly strong and extremely vicious ?

Yup, caught a few myself.

Them some damned scary fish..

They don't call 'em freshwater barracudas for nothing. ;)

Preacherman
June 30, 2005, 03:48 PM
Forget the gun - I'd use one of these! :what:


http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTUS_Torpedo_pic.jpg

Red Tornado
June 30, 2005, 04:01 PM
From the wisdom of Bert Gummer.

"Memo: Four pounds of C4 might be a bit...excessive." :D

RT

Hawk
June 30, 2005, 04:58 PM
Harpoon gun:

http://www.mclaren.gs/images/Brevik/Gun1.jpg

Harry Tuttle
June 30, 2005, 04:58 PM
a real man would dive down and run a stringer in his mouth & out through his gills.

http://espn.go.com/winnercomm/outdoors/fishing/i/P2_f_col_noodling_Sutton1.jpg
http://espn.go.com/outdoors/general/columns/sutton_keith/1336494.html

Dr.Rob
June 30, 2005, 06:06 PM
Clearly one could use a "Dupont Lure" (that's a 1/4 srick of dynamite) to stun said fish to the surface where he could be dispatched from the Sail Step with a BAR (nods to the Submariner who told the shark watch story).

My 'fishing gun' is a Colt Magnum Carry with a handloded 158 gr sjhp.

But dude... that thing would swamp my canoe.

Gifted
June 30, 2005, 06:20 PM
How much good meat would be on that fish? I've heard on some animals like wild boar the bigger ones don't actually have much good meat. Would that hold true on fish?

:what:

Ridge
June 30, 2005, 06:36 PM
The one question I have is.

How the hell did they haul that thing up?

I mean were they using a small crane or wench on the boat?

I know they couldn't have brought it up by hand.

Oh yeah one more thing Harry tuttle I'm a fairly big ol' boy but I wouldn't jump in the water with that monster,that thing would have ya' for lunch.

Cesiumsponge
June 30, 2005, 07:07 PM
Here's a brief description of noodling and what could lurk in the water.

It's hard to imagine anything dumber than wading out into a muddy river, reaching down deep underwater into a dark hole and wiggling your fingers as bait hoping that a giant catfish will clamp down on your hand so you can pull it out of the hole, without getting pulled in yourself. That's a basic description of catfish Noodling, or the sport of fishing for catfish by hand.
It's a dangerous sport that kills a few people every year and injures many more. There is more than cats that lurk in those holes - snapping turtles or snakes can do damage, not to mention that giant catfish that could just as well drag you down into the hole.



http://www.azod.com/Photo-of-Week/2003/USED/Noodling3.jpg

Fly320s
June 30, 2005, 07:29 PM
What gun for catfish?

Why a mouse gun, of course. :D :neener:

Marshall
June 30, 2005, 07:58 PM
I'm unclear as to why you want to shoot it to begin with?

But if you're gonna, I'm thinking...............

http://www.news.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_041210-N-2970T-003.jpg

http://www.arches.uga.edu/~jsand/images/cross/WyattNoodling.jpg
Check it out......Missouri's latest:

Updated: 1:28 a.m. ET Dec. 29, 2004

COLUMBIA, Mo. - Next summer, it will be legal to plunge into some Missouri rivers and grab catfish by hand — a type of fishing that is not for the faint of heart.

Known variously as noodling or hogging, handfishing has long been a misdemeanor punishable by fines, because state officials fear it depletes breeding-age catfish. It can also be dangerous: Noodlers hold their breath for long periods under water and sometimes come up with fistfuls of agitated snakes or snapping turtles instead of fish.

That does not discourage enthusiasts, who insist there is great sportsmanship in fishing with your bare hands.

So after years of urging by noodlers, and lopsided legislative support for easing up on handfishers, the Missouri Conservation Commission has approved an experimental handfishing season next summer. Forms of handfishing are already legal in 11 states, including neighboring Oklahoma, Arkansas and Illinois.


“It’s a start,” John Smith, deputy director of the Conservation Department, said Tuesday. “We are moving forward in good faith to answer the legitimate biological concerns that we have, and balance that with the requests for making this process legal.”

Missouri’s biological concerns are that handfishers, who go for the biggest fish they can wrestle from riverbanks or hollow logs, will take too many sexually mature fish from their underwater nests.

The commission agreed to a June 1-July 15 season, during which handfishers who have bought a $7 permit can use only their bare hands and feet to catch a daily total of five catfish. Fish under 22 inches long must be thrown back.

Handfishing will be legal only along specified stretches of the Fabius, St. Francis and Mississippi rivers.

So secretive are handfishers that they have formed a club called Noodlers Anonymous. A University of Missouri-Columbia professor who got the group’s cooperation in surveying its members found that most are men, average age about 40, living in rural areas.

Howard Ramsey of Paris, Mo., president of Noodlers Anonymous, said the season is a “very positive step.”

“I hope this is the first step toward a statewide noodling season,” Ramsey said. “Noodling is great fun and very satisfying and any lover of fishing should try it.”

Full story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6763659/)

No_Brakes23
July 1, 2005, 04:23 AM
Marshall if I am not mistaken, that is a 25mm deck gun, which is not the same gun, but fires the same ammo as the AV-8B Harrier II and the LAV AD. I believe that is also the smallest caliber in which Depleted Uranium ammunition is made, (Although I could very well be wrong about that.)

Please, correct me if I am wrong.
http://kwat.hp.infoseek.co.jp/kit/harrier2_vma311a1.jpg
I realize that is a model of a Harrier, but I found that when searching for a pic of a Harrier and was astounded to discover that some Japanese modeler had painstakingly recreated an actual painting of A/C 55 that only existed for about 1 year-it was sanded off when we got home. It was a jet that I actually worked on, and loaded ordnance on. The only reason they let us paint the mouth on it was because we were "at war" during Operation Desert Fox, (Operation Bill & Monica, Operation Wag The Dog, call it what you will.) Amazing.

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