870 Slug and buckshot loads


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mec
July 5, 2005, 08:53 AM
http://www.gunpix.com/gallery/Shotguns/870slug.jpg
It's always been pretty consistent with all of the foster slug loads. I seem to be able to sit on the ground and do this with them every time.

http://www.gunpix.com/gallery/Shotguns/00buckvan.jpg
I was a little surprised that none of the S&B 12 pellet 00 load made it through the inside door panel.


I shot the slug at an angle to hit the drivers seat. It worked pretty well.
http://www.gunpix.com/gallery/Shotguns/slugvan1.jpg

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Dave McCracken
July 5, 2005, 09:08 AM
Nice shooting. Good real world info on actual performance.

Nice 870 also.

Rupestris
July 5, 2005, 09:08 AM
And people pay good money for those little stickers that look like bullet holes. :rolleyes:
You could go into business. "Give your car that tough-guy appearance! Permanent bullet holes - While you wait." :D

mec
July 5, 2005, 09:22 AM
A splendid idea. I used to have an armadillo window sticker that I had festooned with fake bullet holes

Fred Fuller
July 5, 2005, 01:17 PM
Vehicle doors are tough, with all the door latch/lock/window crank mechanisms inside. Buckshot is a poor bet on a lot of auto sheet metal, I have seen several cases of failure to penetrate in real world shootings. Angle of incidence has a lot to do with it in many cases, round pellets impacting at an angle on rounded surfaces skid off easily without penetrating. Auto glass can be problematical in some cases too, again depending on range and angle of attack. Old police trick was to skip buckshot off the hood or trunk of a car to get the glass, taking advantage of this tendency.

That is why old shotgun hands keep slugs handy and confine buckshot to soft targets- in a pinch nothing beats the impact and penetration a slug can deliver. One more good lesson in knowing what your gun and your load will do in a given situation, and not counting on myths to deliver when what is needed is performance.

lpl/nc

ny32182
July 5, 2005, 01:40 PM
Thanks for sharing..

I'm also a little surprised that *none* of the buckshot pellets penetrated the door, but at the end of the day, a buckshot pellet is only about 55 grains at about 1250fps, correct? If people say a 55gr .223 round at over twice that velocity can't penetrate a car, I guess there is no reason to think that buckshot could.

I wish I had old cars to shoot, thanks again, good pictures.

mec
July 5, 2005, 02:47 PM
The buck loads were at a flat angle and I shot the slug from an angle on purpose so as to catch the drivers seat. It wasn't a bit torn up before the shot. The load angled back and hit the right rear wheel well.

Only a couple of the buck even dimpled the inner panel. The rest must have hit some hardware inside. One did get into the cab but it went through the window. Nice, clean hole.

Spinnerblade
July 5, 2005, 04:11 PM
Hello mec.
Is there any way you could try some 000 buck on that van? I was shooting an old car door last week with 000 and got some penetration, but it was very shot-up and couldn't be sure what I was hitting.
Thanks for the pics. Patrick

mec
July 5, 2005, 04:58 PM
Shooting cars are kind of scarce and I've pretty well shot that one up. The guy who owns the place said it was going into the cruncher -unlike many of his dead cars which will be harvested.

I was out clay shooting with a couple of guys and kind of wanted to throw a shock into them by gettin out and shooting up the van. The problem with that was, I had to go look inside the van first to make sure that there wasn't a wino in there. Very bad form to shoot into structures that might be housing a wino.

enfield303
July 5, 2005, 05:04 PM
When does Wino Season start? How many tags can you get? What weapon/ammo combo is good for that tough Wino quartering shot? :D :evil: :neener:

Pietro Beretta
July 5, 2005, 06:32 PM
LOL
:D

FLXRing
July 8, 2005, 10:12 PM
Nice pics!.. thanks for sharing the info.

I believe the politically correct terminology is "Urban Outdoorsman"

:scrutiny:

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