[Preacherman]

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?item=34201263

Personally, I can't imagine why I should pay a premium price for a murderer's weapon... I find it rather sick.

[Rich K]

No thanks.

[odysseus]

Outside of the poor taste he uses in his write up to sell the piece... I wonder how he got possession of it to sell?

Also $1500???

[taliv]

oh come on.

argue about the value of a collector's item like that if you like, but don't blame the gun. there's nothing sick about that gun. it's a tool. it's inert. it's not evil.

it's no different than the people collecting pieces of the space shuttle that blew up, or debris from the WTC etc

[Psssniper]

So what about Jack Rubys revolver, Oswalds rifle or any other historically famous firearm? I'd buy 'em.

[steveno]

people have always been drawn to "blood guns" for one reason or another. I have seen a couple of guns at gunshows that were claimed to be "blood guns" and they were priced higher. if they got the asking price is another question

[boofus]

A more suitable place would be in a museum exhibit. Like the Dillinger Gang's weapons at FBI headquarters.

[heypete]

Hmm. And how, precisely, did the seller get this particular gun?

Remember what they say: Buy the gun, not the story.

[Matthew748]

I am well aware that a firearm is just a tool, but I still would not want that gun. It's just too creepy for me.

[Khaotic]

Ironically I almost bought a "blood weapon" for the exact opposite reason.

The irony of owning a Nazi Radom 9mm as a potential defense against a regime sliding into fascism appealed to me.

Price was right too, but never got around to making the buy before they ran out.

A weapon is just a tool, same as a hatchet or a hammer, it's only the use it's put to than can be defined, and that's a human behavior aspect having nothing to do with the tool in question.

-K

[hifi]

I could see the guns used to shoot JFK or Oswald...but this ones just a little too creepy. I sure as hell don't want the note... :scrutiny:

[torpid]

it's no different than the people collecting pieces of the space shuttle that blew up, or debris from the WTC etc

I think that's the point.

Icky.

[RyanM]

Personally, I can't imagine why I should pay a premium price for a murderer's weapon... I find it rather sick.

Same kinds of reasons people pay extra for Nazi-marked firearms, I imagine.

[Combat-wombat]

Well, I've eyed the Nazi-marked Mausers that AIMSurplus usually has... and I wouldn't mind having one. I view it as having a piece of history. It would be a very powerful feeling for me, almost surreal, to actually hold something that was used in such an unbelievably cruel and totalitarian campaign. It would serve as a good pysical reminder of what government is capable of.


That gun, though... I won't judge the person who buys it, but it seems weird to me that someone would want a serial killer's gun, very weird indeed.

[Crosshair]

*sarcasm* I'm not sure if I would want it. Doesn't blood take off the finish. */sarcasm*

[fistful]

Nazi-marked arms. Two reasons.

1. They lost, so we get their guns, cool. They used them for evil, but now we get to use them for plinking and hunting. What a fitting bit of redemption.

2. It makes the history seem real to see the insignia of a vanished time and place (Thank God and the USA).

[Mr. Loud Guns]

I can understand while some people would want to have something like that but I would find that to be incredibly disturbing. That is one of those things that should be kept in a museum not under someones bed. Also who would want the note that's just plain creepy. Just my two pennies.

[DesertRat]

:scrutiny:

This makes no sense to me. How is it that a potential piece of evidence relative to a convicted serial murderer is up for auction? If that weapon did indeed belong to Bianchi, then it is evidence - period. I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that this is authentic, and if it is - how did this clown come into possession of this evidence?

Case in point, around two weeks ago, I personally assisted with the review of approximately 270 boxes of evidence and other documentation relative to the homicide of a newspaper reporter killed here in Arizona back in the 1970s. All of these boxes will remain in state archives indefinately! Mind you many of the people involved in the case have been dead for years now, the hit man convicted and in prison, etc.

Frankly, somebody ought to either get on the horn with the California and / or Washington authorities - or call this guys bluff.

[RyanM]

I knew people would start posting about Nazi stuff. I should make it clear that I'm not attacking people that collect Nazi memorabilia. It's just that some of the motivations are, indeed, the same. Part of history, rememberance, etc. Especially for someone that lives in an area where the murders took place, or knew one of the victims, or something.

[cidirkona]

How about interesting AND grim?

-Colin

[Clean97GTI]

you want interesting and grim?

Nine Inch Nails front man Trent Reznor was looking to relocate his studio in SoCal. He found and purchased a house that he thought was ideal for his purposes which were basically a nice house with built-in studio.
What the realtor didn't tell him is that he had purchased the Tate house. :eek:

I'd buy that gun although I'd like to have a S&W Mdl 19 first.

[RevDisk]

Granted, I'm pagan, but I really wouldn't even want to touch that weapon. Bad juju.



Same kinds of reasons people pay extra for Nazi-marked firearms, I imagine.

I personally wouldn't mind owning a Nazi marked firearm. Just in case our government continues down the path it is currently on. Might redeem the weapon's history a bit. Granted, I don't mind owning Commie weapons, even though the Commies killed a LOT more people than the Nazis did.

I suppose Stalin was correct. One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is just a statistic. People that would be horrified at the prospect of owning a murder weapon wouldn't even give Commie or Nazi weapons a second thought.

[armedcitizen]

argue about the value of a collector's item like that if you like, but don't blame the gun. there's nothing sick about that gun. it's a tool. it's inert. it's not evil.

My thoughts exactly.

[The Freeholder]

Guys, it's a gun. It doesn't contain evil, it doesn't cause evil and it can't be contaminated by evil. It's a thing. The value of a thing is effected by many factors, and previous ownership can be one of those factors. What did the last Elvis Caddy sell for?

Extending the logic that most of you have used, everything this nut case owned should somehow be segregated and placed in cold storage somewhere. I don't buy that. It sounds 1984ish to me--we're making this guy a non-person. Better we hold him up as a horrible example.

[crucible]

Edited for reading comphrension: I went back to read it again and it specifically states "may" have been used as a part of his crimes. May is a whole lot different than was, and that changes things a bit (also explains why it isn't still considered evidence and held accordingly).

I don't know either way, nor am I going to expend the energy to find out. My below comments were written when I thought it definitely was used. Still, it's not something I'd want to handle, let alone buy and help someone profiteer off a serial killer's notoriety, which it surely is.

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Hmmm. While I agree from a intellectual standpoint that it's only a firearm, it's not being sold as only a firearm. It's the selling of a serial killer's notoriety; that's the whole point of this auction-not the selling of a firearm.

This particular weapon isn't a mass produced tool that was used by hundreds of thousands of men to advance a political agenda ala a generic SKS or a Mauser-even for the sake of political and military history. Nor is this "just another fine firearm' that it undoubtably is.

It's being sold, indeed profiteered on, as the exact weapon used by a notorious serial killer as the weapon used to murder and commit ugly, ugly personal evil.

I've never been called PC by anyone I've ever known, nor am I a meek, sensitive kind of guy. But call me what you will, here I believe this weapon is tainted with the blood of innocents, and like the former wielder itself, should not exist in this world save to be legal physical evidence continuously held until the it's former wielder is provided the out from this world he richly deserves-then destroyed. I find the seller grossly distasteful in thier attempt to profit off a serial killer in such a manner, and this along with the KKK Notorized Stamp auction I saw actually featured on the home page just the other day, I'm beginnning to wonder a bit about Gunbroker too.

Chris

[Double Maduro]

I believe that Bianchi and his uncle, Buono (I think that is his name) killed their victims by torture and suffocation/strangulation.

If the gun was not used in the commision of a crime it would most likely be released, like his clothes and tv etc.. If it was used in the commision of a crime it would stay in evidence lockup until it was destroyed or if deemed of historical significance put on display.

Just some thoughts.

DM

[Chrontius]

That gun, though... I won't judge the person who buys it, but it seems weird to me that someone would want a serial killer's gun, very weird indeed.

I'm not entirely sure I would want that one specifically, but I can understand the motivation -- if I was held up at gunpoint, I'd ask the police for the guy's gun once they caught him. It would serve as a reminder that there are evil people in the world, and that's why I have that CCW permit.

These symbols -- even 'tainted with the blood of the innocent' -- have as many meanings as there are people to muse on their meaning, if not more.

[Atticus]

A little pricey for a Bianchi rig.

[M99M12]

The neat thing, the thread starter did NOT mention God. :confused:

[DesertRat]

If the gun was not used in the commision of a crime it would most likely be released, like his clothes and tv etc.. If it was used in the commision of a crime it would stay in evidence lockup until it was destroyed or if deemed of historical significance put on display.

It does not matter if the weapon was actually used to commit a homicide or not. It is a weapon and I can tell you that law enforcement here in Arizona will retain the weapon especially one associated with such a high profile case. Heck my agency has even kept the certain innocuous and mundane items such as family photo albums, hand written phone books, business cards, you name it, etc, etc, etc on the chance that any of it could be called into scrutiny at any point.

This guy is full of $hit that the weapon may have been used in the crimes - such a scenario simply isn't going to happen.