Going on vacation, Can I carry in Wisconsin??


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drf
July 6, 2005, 12:22 AM
I live in Michigan and am going to be heading to Wisconsin for a few days and would like some info on if I will be able to CCW in that state.

I dont belive Illinois has CCW but any info on that state would also be helpful..Thanks drf

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Hawkmoon
July 6, 2005, 12:24 AM
www.packing.org

Click on State Tool

cobb
July 6, 2005, 12:25 AM
NO!

End of story.

HSMITH
July 6, 2005, 12:41 AM
It is a misdemeanor the first time you are caught. I'm not advising you to do so, your choice. There are places in WI where it is wise to have a firearm close if you must go there, but it is against the law. Sadly, WI has a pathetic liberal for a governor, and not enough common sense in the rest of the elected representatives to get CCW through.

IL is much worse for gun laws and rediculous legislation, go around the top.

Dr.Who
July 6, 2005, 01:44 AM
You can carry in Illinois, just be sure it is unloaded and in a case.... and out of reach of the driver, if in a vehicle... :banghead: Sorry not CCW State...

Strings
July 6, 2005, 01:56 AM
actually... for Wisconsin, it depends on a couple things. We have no CCW, but DO (technically) have open carry (although having a loaded weapon in a vehicle is illegal). And many places, you'll get harrased for "disturbing the peace", so it would depend on WHERE in WI you're planning on going...

sctman800
July 6, 2005, 02:14 AM
Illinois firearms must be unloaded and completly encased, the law says nothing about where in the vehicle. As long as it meets those two conditions it may be carried anywhere. Ammunition may be in the same case as long as the gun is unloaded, such as in a loaded magazine or a revolver with speedloaders. Having the ammunition locked in trunk and weapon out of reach of the driver are common misconceptions in Illinois. www.packing.org will give good information, also lead you to the official Illinois web site, go there then to the DRN section for the best information. Jim.

GregGry
July 6, 2005, 05:04 AM
I live in Wisconsin, and like what has been said, no CCW in this state. Its true its not against the law to carry the weapon in plain view, but like what was stated prior to my post, you will likely be harrased. Wisconsin is a pretty safe state, I have lived in the worst places in the state, and unless you go out asking for trouble, you wont get bothered. Atleast thats my experiance...

drf
July 6, 2005, 06:22 PM
IN Wisconsin could I legally have a gun in my vehicle unloaded and away from ammo until I entered Michigan again?drf

Monkeyleg
July 6, 2005, 06:51 PM
drf, some police officers and sheriffs deputies can be a real pain. I know of one young man in his 20's who was almost arrested for having his cased rifle in the cab of his pickup truck. It was only when another officer, who knew the guy's family, intervened and told the harassing officer to stand down.

Best advice: keep the gun in a case in the trunk of your car.

Or, as others have hinted, tell yourself that the law is crazy. Just look respectable. ;)

BTW, if you're headed to Milwaukee stay away from areas north of I-94 and east of 60th street (except downtown) or south of I-94 and east of about 43rd street or so, going as far south as Oklahoma Avenue. Those are the most trouble-prone parts of town.

wdlsguy
July 6, 2005, 07:13 PM
Q: "If a non-resident is coming to Illinois to hunt and would like to bring their firearm, how do they legally transport it?"

A: "Non-residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition in their state of residence. It is recommended that, in order to be in compliance with all statutes, non-residents transport all firearms:
1. Unloaded, and
2. Enclosed in a case, and
3. Not immediately accessible or broken down in a nonfunctioning state."

http://www.isp.state.il.us/foid/firearmsfaq.cfm

Personal comments:

"Unloaded and enclosed in a case" covers a nonresident from the Firearm Owners ID Act.

"Not immediately accessible or broken down in a non‑functioning state" covers a nonresident from the Unlawful Use of Weapons statute.

This is one area where Illinois residents with an FOID have it better than nonresidents.

popplecop
July 6, 2005, 08:35 PM
In Wis. it SHALL be completly enclosed in a carrying cased designed for firearms and unloaded.

sctman800
July 7, 2005, 02:38 AM
It appears That Illinois treats non-residents even worse than us residents. Residents must transport 1. unloaded 2. in a case 3. by a person with a valid FOID card, no mention of being out of reach. Sorry, I guess I am always looking under "residents". Jim.

GregGry
July 7, 2005, 03:41 AM
BTW, if you're headed to Milwaukee stay away from areas north of I-94 and east of 60th street (except downtown) or south of I-94 and east of about 43rd street or so, going as far south as Oklahoma Avenue. Those are the most trouble-prone parts of town. Yes I would agree, having lived in thoes areas for most of my life :eek:

It appears That Illinois treats non-residents even worse than us residents Actually my day at the range in ILL was quite interesting. I went to a range with my best friend, who lives in ILL. They asked to see my foid card, and I told him I didn't have one. He asked what state I was from, and I told him Wisconsin. He then said "ohh, no problem at all". He asked my friend for his card, and he didn't have one, so they wouldn't let him rent a gun. However, if I rented the gun, purchased all the targets and stuff, he could shoot on the range :scrutiny: I asked the guy why is that the case, and he said "since your from Wisconsin, you are a guest in our state, so you don't need the card. He told my buddy that he would have to come back with either me, or someone else that has a card. What a weird system :what:

G.I.Jew
July 7, 2005, 07:39 PM
Well, Im going to Wisconsin for College, and I am wondering if, as a resident of Massachusetts, whether it is legal for me to purchase ammunition and/or rent firearms in the state of Wisconsin even though I do not have a Massachusetts FOID card. Can I legally do this?

Monkeyleg
July 7, 2005, 07:56 PM
You won't need any FOID card to purchase ammo. If you want to rent a gun at a local range, you'll need to prove that you're 18 or older.

If you want to buy a gun, you need to be able to prove that you've lived in WI for at least 90 days. Utility bills or some sort of apartment rental contract should do. Best thing to do, to avoid hassle, is get a WI drivers license.

GregGry
July 7, 2005, 08:43 PM
you're 18 or older. 21 or with parents at all the local ranges I have been to, that is for rental of pistols.

G.I.Jew
July 7, 2005, 11:22 PM
Thanks a bunch. I am 18 right now, so I would only be interested in long guns (for the next few years)

Strings
July 8, 2005, 12:52 AM
Well GI Jew: depending on where you'll be in the state, there are probably several people on this thread willing to take ya out somewhere (new range buddies are ALWAYS a good thing)...

Jeff22
July 8, 2005, 02:49 AM
There is currently NO provision for CCW in Wisconsin except for law enforcement officers. A CCW bill was defeated (again) in the last session of the legislature. There were several reasons for this: (1.) In most places in Wisconsin there is very little random street crime, so there is no public perception that CCW is needed; (2.) Most states require CCW permit holders go through some kind of standardized training administered by the State Police or the Div. of Regulation and Licensing or some other similar agency. The proposal in Wisconsin did NOT have a specific training requirement and that scared a lot of people off. (3.) The state is $1 billion in the hole right now for the next biennium, and there was NO interest in creating any kind of bureaucracy or governmental mechanism to regulate CCW permits at this time. (I think if CCW in Minnesota ever gets straightened out and we go a few years and the law is a success, then that issued could be revisited in Wisconsin, provided that the Wisconsin law mirrored what they did in Minnesota).

The relevant Wisconsin Statute for Transporting weapons is ss.167.31(2)(b) which reads "No person may place, possess or transport a firearm, bow or crossbow in or on a vehicle, unless the firearm is unloaded and encased or unless the bow or crossbow is unstrung or is enclosed in a carrying case".

Relevant definitions for this statute:

167.31(1)(b) "Encased" means enclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled, tied or otherwise fastened with no part of the firearm exposed. (This means that a holster is NOT a case within the meaning of this statute.

167.31(1)(c) "Firearm" means a weapon that acts by force of gunpowder.

167.31(1)9g)1. "Unloaded" means having no shell or cartridge in the chamber of a firearm or in the magazine attached to a firearm.

Open carry of firearms is not specifically banned by state statute but open carry will almost always get you charged with a municipal ordinance violation of "disorderly conduct while armed" or something similar.

entropy
July 8, 2005, 04:29 AM
No CCW. :( Soon, hopefully, if we can dump the socialist Governor, and or keep the Democratic party here from threatening assemblymen to change their vote.... :mad:

If you're going to be near the WI-MN border at school, G.I. Jew, PM me. New shooting buddies are always welcome. :)

drf
July 8, 2005, 01:38 PM
In (Wisconsin the firearm must be completely unloaded and in a carring case)???Does the carrying case have to be locked also???Thanks drf

Strings
July 8, 2005, 03:27 PM
To the best of my knowledge, no it does not. Heck... I've never even had a cop check to see if a gun was unloaded (I'm also not a hunter)...

Lone_Gunman
July 8, 2005, 04:51 PM
Vacation in Wisconsin?

What does one do on vacation in Wisconsin?

Monkeyleg
July 8, 2005, 06:48 PM
Lone_Gunman, we get a lot of tourist activity. It's one of the state's major industries. Lots of camping, boating, fishing, etc.

Of course, despite the boost to our economy, lots of Wisconsinites don't like the tourists--especially the ones from Illinois.

A friend of mine had a proposal for a sign at the state border: "Welcome to Wiconsin. Now go home."

G.I.Jew
July 8, 2005, 07:13 PM
Im heading off to the University of Wisconsin in Madison...not superclose, but maybe sometime :)...also, if a firearm is in a locked trunk, does that count as "encased?"

wdlsguy
July 8, 2005, 08:32 PM
167.31 Safe use and transportation of firearms and bows.
(1) DEFINITIONS. In this section:
...
(b) “Encased” means enclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled, tied or otherwise fastened with no part of the firearm exposed.

http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0167.pdf

Strings
July 8, 2005, 10:37 PM
GI Jew: Madison is roughly three hours from me, but you're always welcome to pull a weekend (if you can deal with cats). And we'll even supply the mead!

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