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Mr. Loud Guns
July 10, 2005, 09:45 PM
I recently sold my keltec 9mm 3000 and my bushmaster carbon 15 in 22 long rifle to get a new ar-50. It's bran new out of the box never been fired. Tomorrow I am going to to test fire it. This is going to be awesome. :D
I'll post some pictures of me firing it tommorow :neener: .
http://tinypic.com/70hoog.jpg

I know that is a very cheap scope on it but it is currently all that I can afford. If any of you can reccomend a decent scope under a 100 bucks for a 50 bmg....................

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Omni04
July 10, 2005, 10:33 PM
any chance of you taking a couple pictures with a more favorable background? Thats a really nice one you got there!

thereisnospoon
July 10, 2005, 10:34 PM
Ummmmmmmmm.....

Mr. Loud Guns

I am not an expert on the subject, but that gun looks really "light" for a .50 caliber. How much does it weigh, who made it, etc. Don't get me wrong I am not dissing your gun, I actually rather jealous. I would just like some more info.

A good scope for a .50cal <$100.00, hummmmm...

Good Luck

boofus
July 10, 2005, 10:37 PM
Airsoft!!!! :neener:

Omni04
July 10, 2005, 10:39 PM
hmmm on closer inspection it does look a little small... He has a better picture in another thread though, i believe.

Mr. Loud Guns
July 10, 2005, 10:47 PM
To start off it wieghs about 30 pounds, it is NOT an airsoft and it is made by armalite. It is touching the ground that is why it doesn't look heavy. I will get some better pictures tommorow. :o

Also it would not be in any other thread considering that it is new. It is my SECOND 50 cal BMG

boofus
July 10, 2005, 10:53 PM
It might just be the lighting or picture angle but I find it hard to believe the object in that photo is the same as this...

http://www.armalite.com/shared/images/ar-50_nick2.JPG
:confused:

Dragun
July 10, 2005, 10:54 PM
odd... thats a completely different rifle than the one he's holding, Omni. his stock looks like it will colapse after one .50 BMG round goes through it, and it looks like the scope could use another ring. Kel-Tec 9mm is called a P11 or the folding 9mm rifle is called a Sub 2000. to my knowledge, Kel-Tec doesn't have a 3000.

Mal H
July 10, 2005, 11:08 PM
Sure looks like an AR-50 (http://www.armalite.com/sales/catalog/rifles/ar50.htm) to me. The photo isn't very good, but the 'stock' is somewhat unmistakable.

RRTX
July 10, 2005, 11:09 PM
I'm not usually one to call someone out, and hate to sound mean but I smell some BS. Your sig line before said you had a custom .50 bmg, then changed to just and AR-50, and now says you have a Serbu and a AR-50. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=146412 IDK what the rifle is in that thread you posted, but it's not a Serbu or AR-50. The rifle you are holding in this post is nowhere near big enough to be an AR-50 either, and it seems to be missing the AR style pistol grip and built in scope mount that the AR-50 has. While I'm at it I might as well mention that Remington doesn't make the PSS in .30-06 like claimed in your sig as well.

Joejojoba111
July 10, 2005, 11:09 PM
Yea man lie that shtuff on a clean floor and take a pic with the flash! It looks NICE. I also want to see the stock better, there's shadows I can't tell what's what. Hook us up man!

Mr. Loud Guns
July 10, 2005, 11:09 PM
Sorry guys that is a really bad picture. My remington pss when i bought it it had been rechambered in 30-06. Why my serbu is custom is because the previous owner had purchased it with the optional 36 inch barrel and had put a tripod on it (it is actually very helpful in shooting. Also you are right it is sub 2000 my mistake. My scope is a really really cheap bsa that I put on it until I can get something much more decent. I am 6 foot 1 so that is probably why it looks alittle small.

Omni04
July 10, 2005, 11:18 PM
your 6"1 at 14 years old?!?

Mr. Loud Guns
July 10, 2005, 11:26 PM
Yep :D

Dragun
July 10, 2005, 11:34 PM
well the ar50 is 59" so that is 5 feet and you said it's resting on the floor, and your 6 feet. the trigger is wrong and not even close to real. and what is that indent in the stock in front of the trigger guard. ar50 is straight across the bottom from the trigger guard out to the end of the stock. hmmmm. also the folding 9mm sub 2000 has to be registered as a handgun and 14 year olds can't own handguns.

if you lie you cheat, and if you cheat you steal, and if you steal, i aint got nothin for your ass.

Joejojoba111
July 10, 2005, 11:51 PM
I think he might be leaning, against a wall, at an angle. Also, I have to believe that someone going to the trouble of posting a picture of a new rifle would have that rifle... And if they were going to lie they'd lie and say their ar50 airsoft rifle was the real thing, not some other rifle...


Also, I respect your opinion, value it as such, but I think that if you lie, you lie. If you cheat, you cheat. etc.

1"Hello new neighbor, I'm Jim the plumber, how do you do?"
2"Hi, I'm tom, a constructive sociologist."
1"What's that?"
2"Let me show you" "I see you have a dog-house, so I presume you have a dog."
1"Right."
2"And as you have a dog I presume you have children."
1"Yup."
2"And as you have children I presume you have a wife."
1"Yea."
2"And as you have a wife I conclude that you are heterosexual."
1"Wow, that's amazing, right on all counts!"
2"Yes indeed, my logic is flawless."
(Later that day)
1"Hey Jim, you meet the new neighbor? He is a constructive sociologist."
3"What's that?"
1"Let me show you. Do you have a doghouse?"
3"Nope."
1- Edited to comply with THR code of conduct

iamkris
July 10, 2005, 11:58 PM
I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt...but it certainly doesn't look good. Compared to the AR50 pic straight from the Armalite website...overall "petite" look, weird trigger/triggerguard, wrong grip, odd indent in front of the triggerguard. Then again I remember being 14 (26 years ago) and anxious to impress.
http://www.armalite.com/sales/catalog/rifles/AR50.jpg

As stated above, the easiest way to resolve this is to get a good pic posted.

Assuming this is an AR...I wouldn't shoot it with that scope. Looks like a .22 rimfire scope...which should last approximately 1 shot.

Mr. Loud Guns
July 11, 2005, 12:10 AM
Guy's I have the problem solved - I need a new camera the following picture I layed it across my bed. This is with all the lights in my room on and the flash. I guess buying an 80 dollar camera 2 years ago wasn't avery good idea :o

http://tinypic.com/70ki9i.jpg

and yes that is a 22 rimfire scope I hope it lasts long enough for a couple shots, on my other 50 bmg I have a much better scope. I don't have enough money for a good one right now.

edit: I am not anxious to impress, personally I could care less what you guys think about my new rifle. However I am curious to what this rifle is if it is not an armalite? Also my dad has a carry liscense.

Joejojoba111
July 11, 2005, 12:15 AM
Ok maybe I was wrong. Sry Drag.

Mal H
July 11, 2005, 12:16 AM
Let's wait for tomorrow when you can get a relatively decent picture. The sun can be your friend. :)

Personally, I still say it looks remarkably like a genuine AR-50. All the talk about lying, cheating, etc. should stop until better proof is available.

iamkris
July 11, 2005, 12:25 AM
Thanks for the better picture.

You changed the scope and mount in this one, huh? What scope is this?

Also, any idea why the edges of the rifle are all pixelated but other straight lines in the picutre aren't? That's odd...I just have an interest in photography and wouldn't want my pics to turn out like that. Just want to learn from others! :)

Mr. Loud Guns
July 11, 2005, 12:29 AM
That picture is definately not "better". All problems, I think are related to the camera. Ps the edge of my bed is pixely as well :confused: Scope is the same you can just see it better.

Bufford t. Justice
July 11, 2005, 12:44 AM
:rolleyes:

iamkris
July 11, 2005, 12:44 AM
Really? That's odd. The scope in the latest picture has a large objective bell while the first one is a straight tube. Plus this mount is as shown on the ARMLT website. The one in your first pic is a single mount.

Just seeing how deep the hole is

Fly320s
July 11, 2005, 12:45 AM
Photoshop.

Cesiumsponge
July 11, 2005, 12:46 AM
Here are my observations. I won't say one way or the other. I'll just yack and let others make conclusions. Theoretically if one felt privy is to claim it is a photoshop job, they would use the following arguments:

The second image shows a real AR-50 pasted in, and the first is some sort of homebrew replica.

The first image, the AR-50 is missing the aluminum stock that runs below the barrel and covers the bedding system. It's missing an integral picatinny rail that is part of the receiver itself. There is a scope that is mounted directly to the barrel with a single clamp. The trigger is too far forward in the trigger guard and consequently too thick. The guard is the wrong shape. The barrel clearly shows a stepped profile whereas the actual AR-50 has a gentle tapered barrel down its length with no steps. The pistol grip isn't the standard AR15 pistol grip. It looks like a steel rod no more than 1" diameter. This is determined by the way your fingers wrap around the bottom of grip and the size of an average man's fingers. There are no finger swells on the grip, checkering, or any profile resembling the stock grip.

On the second image, there is a clear white border around the rifle in places and typical pixilated "jaggies" indicative of multiple layered images and a poor job of smoothing the edge. The top layer(s) weren’t smoothed and were likely selected with a “magic tool” type function that selects an entire object of similar color. The settings on the “magic tool” were set too insensitive and hence it selected some lighter grey shades into the selected object. One will note the jagged edge of the rifle's border is seen nowhere else in any objects in the photo.

The rifle obviously isn't disturbing the pillow or comforter. A heavy item placed on such a surface would cause crinkles due to its hefty weight. However, the rifle appears to cause absolutely no disturbances to the two very soft surfaces it is placed upon.

The scope on it is completely different than the first image and the mounting system is completely different.

Comparing the two pictures, the second image shows a rifle that isn't missing the aluminum stock. It shows a rifle with the integral picatinny rail. It shows a completely different scope which is properly mounted by two clamps on a picatinny rail. The rear support (before the buttstock but after the grip) shows a perforated design running down it's center. The first picture shows a solid support piece with no perforation. It shows all signs of an actual AR-50, but as a pasted layer.

Lastly, the second image shows that the front of the pistol grip and the rear of the trigger guard is completely missing, as if an eraser tool went over the top layer on accident and zapped out a part of the rifle.

Of course, that's a theoretical argument.

GunGoBoom
July 11, 2005, 12:49 AM
:uhoh: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000063EMG/104-9421323-5577525

and you re-installed the scope mount, and made the whole thing larger. And magically kept your pillow from being pushed down. You might want to re-register under another name and get a clean slate, and don't make stuff up this time. Your strong points are intelligence and seriously strong creativity. Work on improving your weak points bro, like a lack of veracity. Good try though.

Edited, oops, CS, you beat me to it - we posted at the same time.

Mal H
July 11, 2005, 12:51 AM
If some are wondering why I am giving Mr. LG the benefit of the doubt at this moment, it's because of his postings here: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=1784458#post1784458 (Shot with the Serbu, I assume.)

Mr. Loud Guns, you have to admit, and you do, the photos aren't helping us at all. The first one shows a straight-line scope with what appears to be a single post mount. The second photo shows what appears to be a flared objective scope on a legitimate AR-50 mount. The rifle length doesn't jive with your statements about it resting on the floor and yet it is almost as tall as you are at 6'+. It should have come to just about your shoulder height.

Again, let's wait until tomorrow when you might be able to get a better overall picture.

[Edit]
Actually we all three posted at about the same time. ;)

Mr. Loud Guns
July 11, 2005, 12:53 AM
OK this is it, I AM NOT A LIER, I am getting tired of all of you ranting about cheating and lieing. I got a ar-50 and wanted to share it with you - A BIG mistake. Here is a picture of it in the original box.

http://tinypic.com/70ky1k.jpg

I currently think you are a little paranoid about the whole situation. What I think right now is SCREW YOU. I am going to be finding another gun forum to post on and say bye bye to the donation I was going to send. CONSIDER ME GONE! :fire:

Solo
July 11, 2005, 12:55 AM
Well, judging from that outburst, I don't doubt that he is 14 years old.

Justang
July 11, 2005, 01:00 AM
what a horrible attempt at Photoshop. I mean the gun doesn't even make any marks on the pillow when it's laying on it.

http://tinypic.com/70ki9i.jpg

In the first pic it looks like you're holding a 10/22 with an aftermarket stock.


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Last picture looks legit. But is it yours? :uhoh:

Cesiumsponge
July 11, 2005, 01:00 AM
Wow, the camera's resolution suddenly tripled in quality and the rifle disassembled itself


HEY! Why are you selling it now on GunsAmerica when you just got it?
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976539833.htm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v143/LarryKnesek/000_0292.jpg


PoWnZorEd!!!1111

itgoesboom
July 11, 2005, 01:04 AM
BS. Youve been caught, quit digging the hole deeper.

After looking at the first photo in photoshop, compared to the others, I can say 100% that it is a different rifle. And that is coming from someone who uses photoshop professionally.

I won't even comment on the piss-poor photoshop attempt that you tried to pass off.

Gungoboom is right (BTW, are you missing brother GGB? :D ), you got caught, time to fess up, leave the forum for awhile, and come back after you grow up a bit.

I.G.B.

Bufford t. Justice
July 11, 2005, 01:06 AM
Bustedhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/buffordtjustice/Smileys/fighting56.gif

Justang
July 11, 2005, 01:07 AM
HEY! Why are you selling it now on GunsAmerica when you just got it?

LMAO. That is too damn funny!!!!!!!!

Can we say owned?

Mal H
July 11, 2005, 01:08 AM
Verrry interresting!!

... and closed until further notice.

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