the last hurah ...


March 21, 2003, 05:36 AM
well today at 6am i will be cut off of the world as my phone line is getting disconnected so no more internet I tried to hang in here for the long run but appartently it's not to be ,I have been out of work for the last three months and unable to find work due to a problem in my job history (too many jobs due to a disease that I found out about 2 years ago ) and no one wants to take the "risk " to hire me , I will be loosing my house and truck in 2 weeks , I tried to sell off my firearms but not enough to make ends meet , I just want to tell you all how much i thought of you . Oleg keep up the good work .. the best of luck to all of you its been a fine ride ..

Scott M.Spencer

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March 21, 2003, 07:34 AM

I lurk much more than I post, at TFL and now here. I just wanted to say that I have always enjoyed your posts and you will be missed. Hang in there , you are in my thoughts and prayers.


March 21, 2003, 08:50 AM
Many public libraries have free internet access, but they might frown on you decorating your favorite cubicle with gun posters.

Hopefully you'll be able to rejoin us soon,

March 21, 2003, 09:24 AM
Hey Scott,

Ditto what Mike said.

I hope that things get better somehow for you.

The idea about the public library internet access sounds interesting as well.

May God bless,


Oleg Volk
March 21, 2003, 09:53 AM
I am very sorry to hear about the misfortunes. Let me know what type of work you are after, and in which geographic area, I might have leads or friends who have leads. Hope to see you back soon, wasting workday time on-line :)

March 21, 2003, 10:20 AM
Praying for you...

March 21, 2003, 11:11 AM
Good Lord man, repost! Give some details like where you live, your profile says you are (were) a driver with some experience. There has got to be something out there for you. As for not getting hired, screw that. Do it yourself. I am self-employed, get my family health insurance through a group plan with a local Chamber of Commerce. Post some more details! Don't give up yet!

March 21, 2003, 02:32 PM
Praying for you! Fervently!!

March 21, 2003, 06:25 PM
Some news , my uncle whos more like my brother (because of age ) paid for my phone bill today so that way I have a way to recieve/make calls about jobs , as soon as My phone was reconnected apx 3 pm i recieved a call from A company I gave up on , they want an intewrview with me on wends , I hang up the phone get another call for a interview sometime this weekend from another company ,so for the mean time I can stay here , going to try to talk to the banks again about truck/house to see if they will let me go another month . thanks for the prayers .. as for where I live ,I live on the very edge of sw subs of Chicago , as for the public library thing they have filters on the stuf so I would have to proxy it in .

March 21, 2003, 06:40 PM
glad to hear of the reprieve! Will keep praying for you. Wish I could do something directly!

March 21, 2003, 06:53 PM
....and behold the power of......!

March 21, 2003, 06:58 PM
Best wishes to you, Scott! :(

March 21, 2003, 07:00 PM
Same here.

I hope everything turns out all right. :(

March 21, 2003, 07:16 PM
I will put you into my prayers also. The Lord will provide and everything happens for a reason. Keep the faith!

March 21, 2003, 07:39 PM
Good luck to you Scott!

March 21, 2003, 08:24 PM
Congrats on the reprieve.Prayer works! :)

Keep doing the foot work,Higher power will do the rest.

Keep moving forward!!


Kahr carrier
March 21, 2003, 08:40 PM
Hope it works out for you .:)

Standing Wolf
March 21, 2003, 09:43 PM
Best of luck to you, friend!

March 22, 2003, 02:16 AM
I to have been out of work since last october and it sucks. I was fired due to a grudge a new manager had through no fault of my own which makes it a bit worse I might add. However I did not sell any of my guns because I've been there done that. And after I've bought what i sold before back I swore I'd never sell another gun again. I don't have many guns and want keep what I have.

I'am glad to hear your good news to god luck. I also don't care for the ignorant people who say to me "Theres jobs out there you just have to want to do them" This coming from the frigging jerk who goes outside and gets into a new bmw and was Just bragging how his dad GAVE him a job at his resturarnt. Go figure huh? For the record I am not envious of anyone I just don't like being talked down to by some fu*ker who has no real clue of what it is to work a real job 9 to 5 everyday. FWIW i've been looking for work just about everyday since losing my job. Anyways good luck again.

March 22, 2003, 02:37 AM
hang in there megatron , as for the kids they are in good hands for the moment , the shop wouldn't take them for sale as the legislation up here is playing havok with the gun industry , so my freind at the shop said I would loose my a** in prices except the coonan which I will not part with as it was a fluke that I even found it in the first place , he told me to hang on to everything and after reviewing the terms of the loans even if i pay partally they still can foreclose and repo ( scumsuckers) unless its paid in full , the last thing would to be to declare bankrutcy and walk away free of debts and start over , but I am trying to negotiate with the banks in question .

March 22, 2003, 03:31 AM
I was 3 days from them begining forclosure when I got my tax return. It bought me a reprieve for a while but the problem is that outgo exceeds income and we have already thrown out all the ballast we can.

I sympathize with you guys struggling without jobs - I am very blessed to have one right now. My buddy is a highly (and I mean HIGHLY) qualified IT person and he was out of work for a year.

Times are tough and the most frustrating thing is when decent people start to slip into the world of bad credit and forclosure for the horrific crime of being laid off.

I have knows several people - some years ago - who filed bankruptcy. One friend was simply irresponsible - ran up a bunch of debt buying toys and took the easy way out.

However, I know a few people who have been hit with just about every calamity imaginable until they just could not do anything - with heavy hearts, they filed and got a fresh start.

That is what the law is for - to give a second chance to people who have really run aground and are taking on water.

My only advice would be - realize that if you do file, a lot of your "unnecessary" property can and will be sold off to pay what can be paid. Jewelry and furs, real estate, extra cars, RVs, etc.

I am not sure about guns - I am 99% sure that you would at least be able to keep a few, especially if you say you use them to hunt - so you can probably keep your Coonan without any problems. It might be a dollar amount, cant remember.

Also - realize that if you try and give away a bunch of stuff anf then file, they can go and repo the stuff and money that you gave away. This even includes debts that you pay - say you owe your friend $1000 and pay him before filing - they can go after him if you do that within - I think its 90 days, maybe 180 days. So - dont do nobody no favors if you do have to file.

I am sure a lot of people will pipe up that they would pay every cent if it took a century and they would never walk away from obligations, etc.

Well, our system is designed with this option in mind. It is factored into lending practices and our credit system. It is designed to help balance the scales for the consumer and incentivise lenders to work with people. So if you really are considering it, do not be afraid to tell your creditors strait up "I am considering bankruptcy if we cannot work this out" - that can make things happen, but dont threaten if you arent willing to follow up.

Finally, it is a bad idea to file if the forces that put you in that position are still active in your life. The guy I know who bailed out of his credit cards - hes back into them, does not own a home, pays crazy interest, etc.

Good luck man.


March 27, 2003, 01:01 PM
Well an update !! this morning at apx 1100 CST I was offerd a Job finally no more worry , I start on monday at 0800 yes its a driving position , but it is a local job so I can try keeping my medical appointments to get better , it doesn't pay as good as I thought but the company liked my diverse background and they are looking for someone with my type of background and said that I advance into the company relitively easy .. I want to First thank each and eveyone of you who gave me support so I didn't give up . I have talke to the bank about the house and truck the mortgage company won't budge, but the folks at wells fargo (truck loan ) said they are willing to work with me . To all of you Thank you . may god watch over you and your familys and reward you justly .

Scott M. Spencer

oh may I ad my mom and step father have loaned me money for the house loan so I won't have to move in with them ...

March 27, 2003, 01:24 PM
Yikes, I hate those close calls...I have had a few myself. Congrats to you. I am sure that it was not easy reaching out to this community of knuckle dragging gun toting conservatives but I think you know that we stood by you and had you in our thoughts.

March 27, 2003, 01:58 PM
actually I was suprised with the amount of personal e-mails offering assistance from people from this board that I recieved , and some of these where lurkers I have never seen post before . I will not put down one of my fellow gunnys because they do really watch your 6 .

Ol' Badger
March 27, 2003, 02:08 PM
Hey if you're really hurting I'll take that Coonan off your hands JK. :D

March 27, 2003, 02:16 PM
Badger , I wish I can get him home faster as he is at a freinds house fo the moment (was placed there for safe keeping ) :D

March 27, 2003, 02:42 PM

Glad to hear the good news.Been in a few tight scrapes myself.
I found that I don't have to do it alone.When I asked for help,
I usually got it.

Good Luck,

March 27, 2003, 05:08 PM
Way to go. Just started reading your thread and before I could put in a good word upstairs you had a turn around. First rate.

I will send one anyway.

Retargeting for Megatron....

March 27, 2003, 11:00 PM
Hang in there, dude, we're all pulling for you. One day at at a time, peanut butter and hot dogs, you will survive.
Best wishes, m2

March 28, 2003, 03:59 AM
Hi Bud,

I'm really sorry to hear life is kicking you when you are down. Grit your teeth and I'm sure you will excel in the end. Until then, you have my sympathies and my prayers. Go get 'em tiger!;)

March 28, 2003, 04:28 AM
Best wishes for your new job Scott! :)

And may you find your mythical pot of magical .357 JHP rounds at the end of the rainbow. Free shooting for your coonan for life....kewl huh?

March 28, 2003, 09:19 AM
Good luck. It's scary thinking of switching/finding jobs.

March 28, 2003, 01:21 PM
Kaynonfyre , I have such a pot here a the house as I reload my own... the coonan and the others are all home now tucked into there little spots in the safe and all wiped down , I am glad that i didn't have to sell them like the one I sold last year . and living in the house with out a firearm was a little nerve racking at times . well thanks again , send some help torwards megatron I think he needs it too .

March 28, 2003, 10:38 PM
Just found this thread.... Goodonyer, mate. Hold a tight sphincter, and bring it around slowly. You'll do fine.

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