Moron at the range!

[Bandit01]

Okay, I just got back from my local range. (I'm purchasing a S&W 610 and went there to do a transfer). Soon as you walk to the range, they salesperson ask, (if they don't recognize you) if you're an experienced shooter. Well Two Asisan guys walked in and the manager asked if they were experienced. One of the morons said yes and pulled out a LOADED .380. The manager yelled at him, telling him to go outside and unload it (obviously, you're not allowed to walk in with a loaded pistol--there's a huge sign, big as day in front which says so). Anyway, they came back inside and went into the range. I was busy talking to someone when one of the guys that work there yelled, "Hot damn". We all looked at the video monitor and saw one of the asian guys jumping up and down. The manager ran onto the range. I didn't know what the hell was going on. A moment later the 2 guys walked out, one had a rag around his hand and blood was dripping. Apparently his Walther bit him. The slidegot caught onto his hand and ripped into his thumb. He's lucky that it didn't pull his thumb off. Now, here's where it gets interesting. HE NEVER PULLED THE TRIGGER. He cocked the pistol and as the slide snapped back, it snapped into his hand. He guy dropped/threw the pistol and it went off. He's lucky, damn lucky that no one else was in the range at the time. He's lucky that the bullet didn't hit him or his friend. I'm lucky because after doing the paperwork, I was going to pop off a few rounds. Now after the commotion and seeing that the moron will live, they got mad because they were charged the $8.00 fee to use the range. When asked why he had to pay, the manager said, "Hell, I have to go and clean up all of the blood that's on the range". I couldn't believe it, this guy escaped death, had a bleeding hand (it was a lot of blood pouring out), and all he was worried about was having to pay the $8.00 range fee.

Lately, I haven't been to the range because every Summer, something happens. Alot of people are visiting the area or have more time so they go to the range. It's always a pattern that in the Summer and on Saturday's most of the "accidents" happen. When I do shoot, it's usually the hour before the range closes. I don't want to sound superior because I had to learn as well but it scares me when I see people not paying attention and doing dangerous things, thinking that an accident won't happen to them.

[HighVelocity]

There are plenty of idiots to go around. All you can do is be aware of your surroundings which it sounds like you were.

Let's be careful out there folks.

[MikeJ]

This is why I won't go to the range on weekends anymore. I've seen too many idiots out there and as much as I know this isn't the pro-gun party line, I really believe people should be required to take a basic firearms safety class prior to running around with a loaded weapon. I was 33 when I got interested in firearms and had enough sense to know that I needed some basic training in how to handle a gun properly. I have absolutley no patience with gun idiots, all they do is add fuel to the anti-gun contingency. I will now gingerly step down from the proverbial soapbox, thank you very much.

[Shorts]

That guy was lucky. Like above, that's why I don't go to the range on weekends and after work hours. There are way too many people out there and it is tough to keep track of all the idiots. I go to the range in the mid morning. Yes, there is normally one or two other guys at the rifle range or down the firing line on pistol. But it is much easier to keep tabs on who's around.

[KnightHawk67]

I found the best time to go to our local range during the weekend is as soon as they open the doors (10:00am), seems most of the reckless people are still asleep. :evil:

[MoeMentum]

Public ranges, you gotta love them. If you look around the booths, and see all those bullet holes everywhere, it makes you wonder how many people escape death on a daily basis. I don't go to public ranges anymore for that reason.

[ojibweindian]

The range to which I belong, Sand Mountain Shooters Club (near Boaz, AL) is a top rate place run by a top notch guy that doesn't tolerate any unsafe handling of weapons.

I've not ever seen anyone be unsafe there twice.

[Oldnamvet]

Every year, as a fund raiser, my club has sight-in days for deer hunters. We open our private range to the public, charge then $5 a gun, and we supply a range officer to every station, supply targets, spotting scopes, and coach people in shooting safely and getting their sights set. Every once in a while we get a real idiot and have to deal with him. Mine was a guy who loaded his Browning auto .308 up and was getting set when he shot into the ground about 50 feet in front of the line. OK, lets try that again. He puts in another round (we only allow single round feeding for obvious reasons), and puts one through the roof! I take the gun away from him and check it over. When you take the safety off, it fires! :what: I told him he had to get that fixed and he didn't see why he couldn't just use that instead of the trigger. Then he wanted his money back because he didn't get sighted in. We gave him a rain check for when his rifle had been repaired. Our thought then was what would have happened if he had put in a full clip. Full auto?? He never came back and could still be out there -- hunting.

[mikewilczynski]

I am fortunate to live near state game areas that allow shooting as long as yu are safe. We have found a nice hill to shoot into. I now use the range when the weather is bad or I need to sight in. I too have found too many idiots and range owners/workers who dont watch too close (except the DNR naxis at the local state ran range).

[P0832177]

This happened Monday morning! I was out at private gun club. I was shooting at 50 ft. It was a nice and it was not hot out yet! Another guy shows up. And, so I stopped shooting, and he asked if we could shoot closer!
Well, I am up for going with the flow so to speak! So, he plops up his targets. A full size B27 target. He starts loading magazines. We chat! The first words out of his mouth are I am Glock Armorer! Then he relates he has been to Thunder Ranch, and then he relates is a CCW instructor at one of the public indoor ranges in the metro. I go to myself big whoopee! So, he starts shooting his 40 SW Glock. I expect great things from this fellow! Well, he starts shooting, and he his shooting his glock like a freaking shot gun! There is no sense of groups, and his presentation is not professional at all! I stand there waiting for the Shock and Awe! But, it never came! I just write it off to false bravado! And, I just chuckled the rest of the time on the range!

Who needs morons when supposed professionals are such poor shots!

[115grfmj]

the range officer sits in the tower and an a Pa speaker is wired to every station (its loud). He's a mean SOB but thats what we pay him for.
I feel safer because of him.



Plus if you don't listen to him......he'll give you a burst from his
coax mounted m240. :D

[gnappi]

I was on the range real early to get some practice drawing. I was alone on the range, and noticed a guy in back of me at a range cycling mags of ammo through his Commander pointing it at MY head and back through a plexiglass
windowed sheet rock wall that was NOT bullet proof. I've seen enough 1911 AD's to stop that RIGHT NOW!

I holstered my loaded gun, walked out and told him to put the gun down on the floor. He wouldn't do it, and then I grabbed the grips on MY gun and told him that if he didn't I would make him.

He set it on the ground, I unloaded it and brought it to the range owner who watched the whole confrontation. The range owner was busy helping a customer when the ass was feeding ammo into his Commander, and apologized to me and told the jerk he could pick his weapon up AFTER the Police let him. He called the cops, and told them he assaulted me. The cops asked if I wanted to pursue charges, I said no and the jerk left sheepishly. I'll bet HE never does that again!


Regards,

Gary

[nico]

I was in a lane next to a couple kids today. They had to be over 18 because that's the minimum age without adult supervision. They were shooting moderately quickly, hitting all over the place on a silhouette at about 10 feet. Next thing I know, a chunk of the ceiling tile they have as a sound baffle falls into my lane :what:. Apparently, these dummies were trying to see how fast they could shoot or something and shot the target holder while trying to hit (I won't say "aiming") the chest of the silhouette. Thankfully, the holders are two pieces of metal angled away from the firing line.


on a positive side note, dry firing over the last week has really improved my shooting and I put 225 rounds through my CZ-75 without a hiccup. That makes a total of 400 rounds of WWB FMJ and 25 rounds of WWB JHP with no issues whatsoever

[CNubel]

Just like one of the other posters mentioned, the private range I belong to opens up to the public once a year for pre-deer season sight ins. I don’t work the sight ins….I want nothing to do with them. The stories I hear from the other members of the club are enough to curl your teeth. Everything from unsafe gun handling to guys trying to figure out why their 30-30 won’t shoot the .308 rounds they bought for it. :banghead:

I don’t go to public ranges anymore if I can help it.

[Bandit01]

I just bought a house in Charlotte. The problem with Charlotte is, you don't get a lot of property. Now, my house, fortunately has a huge yard but not big enought to practice shooting (without scaring the neighbors). I really want to find a private range with expensive membership rates. Lately I've been busy but I was going to my range about 3 times a week. I know everyone there very well. I've made the mistake of shooting there on Saturday--that's the worst day of the week to attempt to shoot. I was told/admonished not to shoot my .44 mag because the sound frightens some shooters. Honey hush, it's a range. If you don't like the sound of guns, well Charlotte has some non manly hobbies to get involved with--we have quite a few museums. All I say is, shooting is a natural right--higher than a constitutional right. I don't need the gov't to tell me that I can shoot. But as muych as I like to shoot, I don't want to get shot by some dumb ass novice. When that sombitch can screaming out the range--hell, he was jumping and hollering, by instinct I reached for my snub nose .357 but realized that I didn't have it on me. Hell, if I was in the range when that dumb bastard dropped/threw his pistol to the floor and it went off--only god knows what I would have done to him. Him grazing me with a .380 would have cause him to feel my .357 or 10mm. (Yes, I carry 2 guns in my car).

[english kanigit]

I understand perfectly where you're coming from my friend.
I just hope some sweet little ol' lady doesn't decide to try and shoot your balls off. :uhoh:


Stay safe man, never underestimate an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[45R]

Quote by Bandit01

Well Two Asisan guys walked in and the manager asked if they were experienced.

If your going to call them "MORONS" at least spell their nationality right.

Its Asian. :scrutiny:

[Bandit01]

What difference does it make how it's spelled? The point of the story was the horrible accident. Let's not turn this into either a flame war or a race war. If you have nothing positive to contribute, please keep your negative comments to yourself.

[45R]

What difference does it make how it's spelled?

The difference is a 5 year old in a spelling bee would have gotten it right not to mention it is offensive.

[SnubbyMan]

Bottom line is I don't think it matters what ethnicity the morons were. You'll get some Asians with good gun-handling skills, and some Asians with poor gun-handling skills. Moronism is everywhere...

[Bandit01]

Hey 45R, would you kindly explain to all how my post was offensive?

Given the fact that I'm black (or African American if you like), why would I post offensive stuff here. Do you think that I'm posting subliminal neo-nazi anti Asian messages? Grow up, we're all adults here. This is about learning and sharing information about safe and practical firearm handling. Someone looking to be offended would have been offended by this thread. My adding that the 2 guys are Asian is merely a descriptive fact. The premise is not that all Asians are morons. But now, it seems that the only moron here--is you. There are alot of novices out there that comes to this web site to learn about firearms. Hopefully one will read my thread and walk away with being more aware of how to properly handle a pistol. Your moronic semi-insulting comments is not helping anyone.

Now once again, can you make an intelligent contribution to this thread that can shed some light to proper pistol handing?

[Cazach]

Bandit,

You also called them "guys" and I take offense to that. I am a "guy" and feel that your comment is demeaning and paints us "guys" in a bad light. :rolleyes:

After reading these, I found it funny that I experienced a combination of some of these stories.

Went to the local indoor range one Saturday, and was late because wife was coming along and well you know. Anyhow, we get tucked in and after about 20 minutes the owner comes by and is dressing down the "persons" a few lanes over. It seems that these "individuals" had just shot the target trolley in their lane (cables were now on the floor), and then had decided to keep shooting (at other people's targets :eek: )

When the owner got to the lane, there was blood all over the floor and one of the "offenders" was holding his hand. Turns out that while one shooter was holding the pistol, the other would seat the mag (don't ask me why)
and while doing so had removed a sizable chunk of the other's hand.

Moral of the story: find a private place or get there early and be gone before the lunatics show up. :)

[crofrog]

I was at a public range in Maryland who I say their big business is renting pistols. So their are always morons there. Last time I was there a gun black couple came in wearing "urban" attire. And Rented a glock. Neither one of them had shot at all. After I watched the range officer explain to them how to operate the pistol, range rules, and saftey rules. They where given a gun and some got some silo targets.

Well I was given the lane next to them :what:

As I was sitting up I heard them start shooting and looked over and it was the girl shoot. at honestly 1-2 yards away. She missed the paper for over 50% of her shots. Then she switched off with her boyfriend and he put the shots on the paper, but no grouping at all and most of them where hitting the target in the hip area...

Well I was coaching my friend in the lane with me on how to shoot and we where doing failure to stop drills. and I was watching them switch off again. And the chick stuck her thumb on the back of the slide of the glock and was getting ready to pull the trigger. I yelled for her to stop (mainly in the intrest of not having to preform frist aid) and she did I then showed her how to hold the gun again (the range officer did thin on the way in as well). And She held the gun the way I showed her and managed to make a shot gun group this time. Well I went back to my shooting finished shooting my 2 mags then switched off. and I look over and she's holding the pistol the same wrong way again. I basically said ???? it and stood to the other side of my friend to not get splattered with blood and went back to help him.

A few minutes later she had to leave because her thumb was bleeding...

That being said it was high noon on saturday and all the morons where out there. With my friend and I practicing the way where where.

Failure to stop drills, presentation, hammers, weak side etc etc. We had all the really scary novice shooters staring at us. They must have thought we were spec-op's or something because they where all coming to watch us shoot and ????. It's pretty funny because I suck compared to most people I know.

Chris

[mec]

"Do you think that I'm posting subliminal neo-nazi anti Asian messages? Grow u....."
Heck. I didn't even notice you went typo on the word "asian" - sight reading is probably a form of dyslexia. My subway conscious mind sorts out the typos without me even noticing it. I read upside down too which is pretty good for a third generation bog trotter.

I suppose that if there was anything wrong about being an Asian, it would be insensitive to mention that somebody IS one.

Interestingly enough, MORON could be offensive to a certain subset. Up until about the middle of the last century, Idiot, Imbecile, and Moron were accepted clinical terms attached to IQ testing.

[torpid]

If your going to call them "MORONS" at least spell their nationality right.

Its Asian.


Yes but they weren't Asian, they were Asisan.

From Asisia.

.

[mec]

"Yes but they weren't Asian, they were Asisan"

Hey. nothing wrong with that. ain't that where St Francis the Talking Mule come from????

[zpo]

Google "Asisan". It seems to be common...

[Clean97GTI]

I've seen enough stupidity at ranges here to be glad that I don't go to them unless I have to...which is RARE.
I've got a nice piece of land staked out just outside of town. There is plenty of room and a nice solid backstop that is a couple miles thick (yes, its a mountain)
You can hear other shooters, but you'd actually have to go hiking to find them. The only complaint that I have is the amount of junk people leave out there.

My little story has to do with the last time I was at an indoor range. It was Good Friday 2 years ago and work gave us 3 hours off. Some used it to go pray or take a long lunch.
A few of us decided to go shooting.
We bring our guns in and pay for range time and targets.
The three of us are happily banging away in our lanes for an hour or so when we hear the telltale roar of a magnum round being touched off.

Cool thinks I as I hear it yet again. I finish my magazine off, leave the slide locked back and am about to walk over when the magnum sounds again and I hear a metalic clang...the target hanger was sitting on the floor of the range.
The owner walks out and the guy is very apologetic and offers to pay for damages. He was trying out a set of crimson trace grips and wasn't used to them (or thats the story he gave)
Anyway, the owner agrees and moves him down one lane...next to me.
The magnum bangs resume and sure enough, he aims high again and proceeds to place a .44 slug into the ceiling, showering the range with debris. Instead of stopping again and reevaluating, he fires again...this time with one hand.
The owner has had enough and asks the man to leave. Luckily, I had stepped away from my lane and I see him turn and sweep the booth I had just been in. :cuss: The walls on these things aren't thick at all and my co-workers were in the lanes right next to me. Lucky thing the guy didn't ND or they could have been in some serious s**t.

The owner, being an avid shooter himself apologized to the three of us for the danger. I couldn't really be mad as you can't always tell stupidity by looking at the person. You'd figure a man who owns a nice S&W 44 mag would be at least as bright as the lamps in the range. Guess not. Anyway, I now drop in there from time to time to check out new stock. They do a fair business although the prices are a little on the high side. Good folks all around and pretty knowledgable about their trade.

I don't like shooting around other people any more than I have to anymore. If I endanger myself, thats one thing.
If somebody else does it, its quite another.

[Ed]

As soon as I saw Asian, or the other spelling I knew it would become the main topic in this thread. :rolleyes:

[shooter1]

I feel sorry for all of you who must use public ranges. It makes me proud to be living in an undeveloped state. Best to you all!
str1

[gulogulo1970]

"Moral of the story: find a private place or get there early and be gone before the lunatics show up."

Can I have an Amen.

[postmaster]

several years ago i saw a similiar thing happen.a buddy of mine loaded some hot 8mil rounds for his k98 mauser.when he touched it off all hell broke loose.the receiver was peeled open like a tin can.the bolt took off a part of his ear.never saw anything so stupid in my life.shoot safe be safe postmaster

[Sven]

Lets all stay on topic.

I like that my range has a very very strict rifle/pistol handling policy (and DOES enforce), but still prefer to only shoot on members-only nights for obvious reasons.

[c_yeager]

This is why i simply dont go shooting in the afternoon anymore. My preffered time is right when the doors open (around 9AM) on a weekday. its rare that i have many people at all shooting around me, and those that do show up tend to be pretty competant for some reason. Sunday afternoon? *shudder* I actually get downright scared.

Fortunatly the antis dont know enough about gun safety to realize how bad things can get at public ranges.

[trickyasafox]

i vote we take off safety labels and warnings on every household product. in 2 years, stupid people will become extinct :evil: :D


our rifle range isnt only actions open, its bolts out between volley's. i dont think your allowed to be touching your firearm at all if the range isnt called hot

[nrmcolt]

"Yes but they weren't Asian, they were Asisan.

From Asisia."

:D

[Bandit01]

Well, this weekend at the other local range, someone shot and killed himself with a rented AK. And, he wasn't asisan or Asian. See, this is the reason why I don't like public ranges--the safety issue.

[jdkelly]

If your going to call them "MORONS" at least spell their nationality right.
Its Asian.---45R

I don't think that "Asian" is a nationality.


Respectfully,

jkelly

[jdkelly]

Given the fact that I'm black (or African American if you like), why would I post offensive stuff here.---Bandit01

Your race has nothing to do with whether you posted "offensive stuff here" or not. Your words determine if your posts were offensive, and as far as I can see you said nothing offensive.


Respectfully,

jkelly

[MAURICE]

Using descriptive words is offensive and racists? Wow. :rolleyes:
Don't call me white or I will get mighty upset.

[Velocity229]

Expensive members only ranges are the way to go.

[kennedy]

the worse day to go to the range is fathers day, the wives let them out and all hell breaks loose, a few guys were bump firing their AK-47s, over the backstop, sheriff shows up and threatens to take everyones weapons, luckly no one was hurt, and so many shooters there my guns were still in the car waiting for a lane to free up.

[SLCDave]

Maybe he couldn't spell assasins? :neener:

[Bandit01]

But, I can spell jackass--SLCDave :neener:

[TheStook]

Well my story isn't as drastic but it scared me.

Went to the public range. Yeah yeah, well i live in phoenix..... kinda hard to find a private range that can be used on my budget. Anyways two lanes down from me there is a few "gangsta" type people playing with their new toys. Well one of these new toys was a jamomatic 1911. I was too far away to tell what was making it jam, but when it would he would hold the gun with his finger in the trigger guard and tip it sideways, flagging me and my friends, and then drop the mag and inspect the firearm for problems......

[No_Brakes23]

What continent is the Nation of Asia on? :D

When the race of a person in the story is mentioned, and it has no other bearing upon the story, it can have the appearance of racism or implied bias.

But back on topic...

Last time I went to the range, the guy on the lane next to me came over with his Beretta model 92/96, (Didn't check) and asked me to help him fix it. I guess he came to me thinking I was the RSO or something because I was lecturing a new shooter I had brought with me. He was flagging everyone on my lane, and I wasn't sure if it was loaded, so I took the offered pistol and tried to figure out what was wrong with it.

I couldn't understand what he was saying, but when I tried to unload it, I realized he had the take down lever in the vertical position and the slide halfway off. He was trying to shoot it that way. :eek: Maybe he thought it was the slide release or something? I took it apart and put it back together, (Good think I vaguely remembered how to field strip the M9,) and handed it back to him. I told him to talk to the range people, but I guess he just fired his box of ammo and left.

[Camjr]

I haven't been swept at the pistol range (that I know of), but every once in a while a guy in flip flops will show up with a Desert Eagle 50AE without hearing protection, and I just giggle.

The skeet range is a different matter. In Texas (and many other states), dove season starts 9/1. Unless I'm shooting on my league night, I avoid the range like the plague on weekends leading up to opening day. I used to go on weekends in August (just like many other weekends throughout the year), but grew tired of continually telling folks that handle their shotguns once a year to keep their actions open until they are on the station, to only load two rounds at a time, and to QUIT SWEEPING ME!!!!!!!. Once gets a stern warning. Twice gets them removed and sent home.

[Jamie C.]

First, I wasn't aware that Asia was a nation...

Second, they sound more like ASSians to me.

But what do I know? I'm only a German/American indian/Irish hybrid.... ( That'd be "Mutt" to all you rednecks out there. :evil: )


J.C.

[SigSauerPrincess]

the only unsafe range behaviour i've seen is when my bf's friend wanted to come shoot with us. he told us he'd shot before. there were three of us in one booth (its an indoor range) and we were taking turns shooting when the friend's gun jams, and so help me, he turns it around and LOOKS DOWN THE BARREL. my bf and i look at eachother like :what: not to mention he swept my bf in the process. it turns out he'd never shot before and just didnt want to say anything-he just pretended he knew what he was doing. after that when he called us and asked if we wanted to go to the range, we were always mysteriously busy :cool:

[oh blanky]

Plus, blacks cannot be racist, right?

[Mongo the Mutterer]

Good grief -- all of these stories remind of the time I went to the range and met an asian-black-pacific islander-italian-german-frenchguy who had a nationality of polish-russian-serbian-irish-welsh. I really liked the guy since I am hugenot french, german, welsh, american-indian, english (and a few other things, I think... my ancestors were pretty horny :D ).

We both figured out we are Americans and it didn't matter. That dude could really shoot.

[TheDutchman]

I use to shoot at a range North of Austin close to Fort Hood, frequented but Soldiers from that base. I thought the US Army was well trained in pistol and rifle marksmanship. Gansta style shooting with full mag ammo dumps and very few shots on target, seem like most of there training comes from TV. Very dangerous thought I was going to have to shoot a SGT with a AK on the pistol range, he was sweeping everyone and shooting the ground 5 feet in front of himself.

[SRFL]

I've seen my fair share of LEO's and military personnel that couldn't shoot worth a caca.....heck, my beloved USAF places "so much" importance on shooting that non-combat personnel (which is probably about 99% of the USAF) shoot every 3 years.

[BluesBear]

And now in the interest of equal time for opposiong opinions we have with us today Miss Emily Latella


Now what all of this hubbub about Mormons at shooting ranges?
Don't the Mormons have just as much right to use the ranges as anyone else?
Don't Mormons need to practice to keep their self defense skills sharp, just like the rest of us?
Personally I wouldn't mind if some nice Mormons showed up next to me at the range. I'd even let them try my guns. Hopefully they'd let me shoot theirs as well.
And I wouldn't even mind if these Mormons did come from Asia.
After all Asian Mormons need to learn to shoot just as much as American Mormons do.
I just can't understand all of this complaining about...

What?


What's that?

Morons? - - - He said Morons? - - - Not Mormons??



Oh! - - - Well then...



Never Mind. :o



But what about all of those people complaining about violets on televisions.
Now I'll admit that the top of a television isn't the best place to grow violets since the lighting is usually all wrong. But peope should have the right to raise their violets anyway thay choose...




:neener:

[cxm]

Around 35 years ago... so long ago I still had hair, I would shoot from time to time at an "open" range near Winter Haven Florida.

Now, I realize I had no excuse for doing that, but the private club I belonged to was about 15 minutes farther drive and I was lazy at tmes.... :o

Bright and early one Sunday morning I met two State Troopers I knew and we went to the "open" range to shoot... we had some new toys and were having a pretty good time trying them out.

A guy drove up in an old Ford low rider of some sort, that looked as scruffy as the guy did... about three days of beard, blood shot eyes...I should have left then....BUT... youth and lack of experience prevailed. I did think to myself this is some sort of scumbag. :barf:

So happily popping .45 acp rounds out of my then new Gold Cup I blissfully faced my fate....

BANG! the guy next to me let go a round, as I was holding the Gold Cup ready to squeeze off a round... I felt a bump in the middle of the inside of my forearm and a burning feeling... looked down and saw I was bleeding.... :what: looked to my left and there was Scumbag holding a chrome revolver still pointing at me and looking surprised... I swung my .45 to my left and alligned my sights...

At that point one of my State Trooper friends gently pointed my Gold Cup away from the Scumbag, whilst the other Trooper disarmed the shooter. :fire:

Turned out scumbag was VERY drunk, was on parole and did not own the car... why he stopped I'll never know... anyway deputies came and hauled him away.

Found out I had been hit with a .22 short in the arm... not a lot of damage done... in fact the emergency room did more damage removing the bullet than the bullet did going in... enlarged the size of the scar produced considerably but I guess you could say all's well that ends well. :o

I learned my lesson very well... I avoid drunks, morons, idiots, jerks and scumbags when shooting (well any time I can for that matter) since then... so a cheap lesson you could say.

FWIW

Chuck

[30 cal slob]

Pffffft. "Asian?" Puuhllleeeze.

My friends prefer to call me a gook with a machine gun.

[8200rpm]

"Asisan", "Asian"...

Ahem... I think the political correct term is "Oriental". :evil:

"Asian" is a very non-descriptive and vague term, IMHO.

Asia is quite a big place; about 60 percent of the world's population lives in Asia.

Technically, both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden are Asian.

[Bobkat45lc]

I have been lucky these past 35+ years. I don't like indoor ranges and the outdoor range (state WMA) is quite good--but I use it only on Mon,Thur, and Fri and never on weekends. Some folks don't control children and I just pack it in. Some older folks never announce they are going downrange. Dumbness knows no age.

[MR.G]

I personally don't mind the morons at the range. It makes the shooting experience more fun, challenging and realistic. I have seen some pretty wild things happen in some indoor ranges.

[toocool]

And now in the interest of equal time for opposiong opinions we have with us today Miss Emily Latella......






THAT WAS CLASSIC! I could vividly picture Gilda Radner in the role. It brought back memories of the good years of SNL. Thanks, man!

[Janitor]

"My friends prefer to call me a gook with a machine gun."
:D

Thanks 30 cal slob. I can probably get the coffee out of my shirt with some cold water but I think my keyboard may be trash.

[30 cal slob]

Let me tell you, I go to great pains NOT to wear black pajamas AND sling an AK at the local full-auto shoots.

Too many VN vets on the line, would hate to risk a flashback and get whacked.

[Eskimo Jim]

Went to one range and had new shooters on my right. Huge target VERY close the firing line is a telltale sign. At one point they put the target a little bit further out. It was possibly 6-9 feed away at this point. All of a sudden I hear a loud boom and see part of their target torn to my right. I figure they had a KABOOM. Nope, they had exploding targets taped to the paper target.

The guy in the booth to my left was hitting me with 22lr brass. I can't figure out how he managed that one.

I packed up and went home.

-Jim

[Janitor]

"I packed up and went home."
Wise move. Discression, valor, and all that rot.

*sigh*

[Snake Eyes]

I avoid drunks, morons, idiots, jerks and scumbags when shooting (well any time I can for that matter)

Darn. I guess we're NOT going to be friends.

[Too Many Choices!?]

:fire: EVERBODY that owns and AK knows it shoots bullets AND BRASS. Same with the semi .308(basicly anything with a fixed ejector). So why do these idots not cover their rifles or atleast place something inbetween them and the next shooter as case deflector :banghead: ! Nothing is better than having .308 brass flying from ~15 yards away ,and almost hitting you or your $850 gun, and having the idiot keep doing after he sees what is happening :fire: !

[Too Many Choices!?]

Since when did we here at THR become so politcally correct. I mean did I miss the e-mail :scrutiny: :barf: !!

[RustyFN]

I feel sorry for all of you who must use public ranges. Amen. I also feel sorry for people that don't have anything better to do than spell check everybody else's posts. I had a bad experience at a public range and decided to look hard for a private range. I was lucky to find one close by that is very safe and also has a lot of fun shoots on the weekends. It is well worth the money to keep away from the nuts.
Rusty

[BergaminoCAV]

alot of idiots out there!!

[Nematocyst]

Maybe he couldn't spell assasins?It seems that we have a viral infection in this thread that is preventing people from correctly spelling words beginning with "as".

Asian.

Assassin.

It's about spelling, not racism.

"Move along. Move along.
Nothing to see here. Move along."

[Green Lantern]

All I say to this thread is, thank God I live in the country where I don't NEED no steenkin' range!

...yet. :uhoh:

[pax]

Too Many Choices!? ~

Guns make noises and throw brass. If you don't want to deal with the sound or get hit with the brass, don't go to the range.

pax

[JohnKSa]

My friends prefer to call me a gook with a machine gun.To satisfy my drinking habits (I go through a bottle of premium tequila in about a year--regular as clockwork) I buy at a little shop on the way home. The proprietor is Vietnamese and he's got an AK variant hung on the wall behind the counter. I don't know why, but that tickles me to no end--almost worth increasing my alcohol intake so I can support his business better.

[jlh26oo]

Plus, blacks cannot be racist, right?

Yeah I was scratching my head when I read that. It's like "What do you mean racist? How can I be racist, when I'm BLACK?!"

And btw of course it wasn't racist. I guess it was to those who consider "asian" to be a dirty word lol.

[Cousin Mike]

I'm black, so maybe we just naturally have a thing against asian shooters... :rolleyes: Of course, that was a joke for those humorly-challenged types.

Also, unsafe behavior does not = bad shooting... If I were afraid of people who couldn't shoot, I'd be afraid of all public ranges and half the people I know who own guns. Funny how those 2" groups at 15 yards that you can shoot on the internet turn into shotgun patterns at 20 ft. when you end up on the range with real people here in real life.

IIRC - I've only seen dangerous behavior twice on a public range. Call it what you want, but it's just the truth... Both times it was a large group of asians shooting. So I guess that makes me racist because the people I've seen at the range - practicing unsafe behavior - didn't look like me. :D

Granted, these folks probably aren't from here, almost surely aren't allowed gun-ownership in their home countries, and probably aren't very experienced with even the concept of private gun ownership or use... Both times, they brought their entire families to the range - kids, grandmother and all - which is something I consider REALLY inappropriate... Both times, the parties rented all guns from the range, obviously not owning or having experience with any firearms of their own.

THAT is what makes them unsafe at public ranges (doing things like turning around and talking to family members with loaded guns in hand... or my personal favorite, chasing the kids all over the range - once again - loaded gun in hand), not where they were born or what their faces or skin look like. Of course, not speaking or understanding the language that the range rules are written/spoken in can't help much either. As for avoiding these types of situations, I usually go to the range either when it first opens, or early in the week (Mondays and Tuesdays) before most folks are getting out of work.

[rustymaggot]

when i was a kid i saw a guy doing quickdraw while drinking and shoot himself in the weener.

i didnt see it happen but i saw the damage done by a guy at a indoor range who didnt know how to work the moving target set up. the target hanger is on a machine that runs it down the side of the wall and turns a 90deg and moves across the end of the range. has foot peddels to opperate the motors on the target. some guy had decided to not run the paper target out to the propper place and just opened up on it while it was back behind the bench. well that was a regular wall and on the other side was the store. displays all shot up and scattered, on both the first wall, and also on the second wall(brick wall outer building wall). lucky no one was shopping in that area of the store at the time. shook up the range employee realy bad.

[BluesBear]

Now that's just bad design on the part of the range/gunshop.
To have a public area on the other side of a wall that could possibly be shot through is just plain stoopid. (Dee Dee Dee)

You MUST consider that any surface even remotely in the firing area will probably be struck sooner or later.
You're always going to have wild shots, stray shots, ricochets and splash backs.

[rustymaggot]

bluesbear,

it wasnt a very good range. and some of the employees were worse than the customers. only range ive even been to where the guy running it was drinking vodka in his slurpie.

[michiganfan]

Only go on Sunday morning 9am as soon as it opens. Usually just me and one or two other guns nuts.

[psychophipps]

You can't be racist if you're black? :rolleyes: Tell that to Bill Cosby! My friend was working as a bellhop in Lake Tahoe and ended up carrying Mr. Cosby's Hugh-Jass luggage upstairs. Holding out his hand for the usual tip, good ol' Bill just smirked and said to Steve, "Yeah, thanks whitey." A couple of days later, Steve's black buddy got a tip for carrying the luggage down on Cosby's way out of town.

Mark(psycho)Phipps( HAHAHA! )

[Lonestar]

You can't be racist if you're black? Tell that to Bill Cosby! My friend was working as a bellhop in Lake Tahoe and ended up carrying Mr. Cosby's Hugh-Jass luggage upstairs. Holding out his hand for the usual tip, good ol' Bill just smirked and said to Steve, "Yeah, thanks whitey." A couple of days later, Steve's black buddy got a tip for carrying the luggage down on Cosby's way out of town.

I heard the same from a ex-Temple University Cop that I worked with. Bill Cosby when to school there (not sure if he got a degree other than an honorary one) and does a lot of events with them. I think the stuff he said about the black community was because that he was embarassed by them, not that he wants to be white. This guy (who is actually black) said the apparently Cosby perferred an all black security detail when he visted the university.

Back to the topic at hand...I seen too many time where gun shops and range owners rather collect money, and not upset customers , then to educate and make sure shooters are safe.

[Cousin Mike]

I heard the same from a ex-Temple University Cop that I worked with... apparently Cosby perferred an all black security detail when he visted the university.


That's not racism... That's just smart

I stayed with a friend who attended Temple for a year... visit the university for yourself and you'll understand why. And yes, Bill Cosby has a PhD from Temple. In what, I'm not sure.

As for Cos' comments about the black community, Bill Cosby didn't say anything unique. Black folks talk about the problems in our communities all the time. He just said it on T.V. - which is what some folks considered offensive. It's not what he said. It's the fact that he said it in a public setting that offended some folks.

"Airing out our dirty laundry in public," so to speak. Being embarassed with one's demographic, or wanting to be white has nothing to do with anything - and is offensive to even suggest. FWIW, statements like that reflect a lot of ignorance on the speaker.

[cbsbyte]

Idiots at the range is the main reason I don't shoot any longer at outdoor ranges that do not have Range officers. No more rifle shooting for me unless their is a range officer. The problem is that All of the private clubs near me have unattended outdoor rifle/ pistol ranges. It is near impossible to stop unwanted people from using the ranges. It can get very hairy especialy during deer season when alot of one season hunters come to sight in their rifles, or shotguns and most don't have clue on firearm saftey. And the state has mandatory hunter saftey courses. I have seen many times, people waving there LOADED guns around, drinking beer, running down to targets without notifiying other shooters, and the worst pointing loaded guns at people as a joke. I am amazed that no one has been seriously hurt or killed. It is a lawsuit waiting to happen, and though the club officers care about the situation, and try to patrol the more often, they have no way to close off the ranges or stop unwanted visitors without putting a large fence around the 100s of acres of property and having a front gate.

[vega]

I guess it's safe to shoot with Asians and not with Asisans.

[lamazza]

few weeks ago at the 100 meter section I saw a guy try and go out to check his targets-Before the cease fire!

[cyanide]

the guy running it was drinking vodka in his slurpie.

They all do that at my range.

[BoomBoom25]

Guess im kinda lucky I have a big area in the back of my house to go shooting at. Never had to go to a shooting range so I really dont have any stories about hearing or seeing someone shoot themselves. I was however surfing the web a few weeks ago and came across a video of a cop who was supposed to be teaching kids to stay away from gangs and drugs. Toward the end of the video he unholstered his glock 40 dont know which model it was. Anyway he locked back the slide and then in the video you see him walk out of the videos line of sight. But you can hear him telling someone his gun is unloaded and the say yes it is. He then walks back in front of the camara with slide still open. He then presses the slide realese and starts to do some weird thing with his gun he starts pointing it toward his leg and BOOM! the gun discharges right in his leg. I do howerver have to say I think he took geting shot better than anyone has before. Simply because right after he shoots himself he asks one of the people with him to hand him a rifle an AR15 type I belive and you can hear all the kids and parents in the back ground yelling at him to put the gun down which he finally does and limps out of the area. If i could remember the site adress I would tell yall but i cant has anybody else heard of this incident?

[grislyatoms]

pointing loaded guns at people as a joke:fire:

My best friend in high school pointed a .41 Magnum at my chest and pulled the trigger with a big grin on his face.

Haven't seen him in 20 years and I could care less to ever see him again.

[Phantom Warrior]

BoomBoom25,

The story you mentioned has been WIDELY discussed on the Internet and on this forum. It is old news. (Not trying to be a downer, just didn't want you to be disappointed when no one is surprised).



Dee Dee Dee


Carlos Mencia?

[Zach S]

Instead of talking bad about them on the internet, have you offered any advice? Most people welcome it, ladies are more receptive than guys. Couples are a little tricky, most of the time they're decent listeners, and, as always, ladies listen better. Guys tend to have a "I dont need advice" attititude, but they somewhat listen while acting like they arent.

i vote we take off safety labels and warnings on every household product. in 2 years, stupid people will become extinct
I've been saying that for years.

[Nathan Williams]

My family has a farm way out in the middle of nowhere so I raley go to a range unless I dont feel like making the drive (around 45 minutes). However I have more than a few scary duck hunting stories. One time when drawing for a blind we encountered a rather bright :rolleyes: looking group of people one of them had brought a rifle :what: . Well we set up our decoys and were attempting to call a few in when all of a sudden we heard a gun go off beside us and water splashing. What the hell! My buddy pokes his head out of the side of the blind and quickly ducks back in just before another shot goes off. Somebodys shooting at us he says. Well at this time we kinda freaked out. My buddy leans out quickly and fires a shot at our attackers. Then we hear them yelling "dont shoot,dont shoot" to which we respond with cease your fire. Come to find out these people shooting at us were actually shooting at our decoys from their boat. Not realizing the pile of sticks in the water was our blind they had thought our decoys were actually ducks. These were the morons we had noticed at the begining of the day they were heading back after no luck (go figure) . I am just thankful the retard with the rifle didnt take a shot.

[evan price]

TooManyChoices:I find the Semi-auto .308 and .223 Mil-Surpers to be the worst..

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EVERBODY that owns and AK knows it shoots bullets AND BRASS. Same with the semi .308(basicly anything with a fixed ejector). So why do these idots not cover their rifles or atleast place something inbetween them and the next shooter as case deflector ! Nothing is better than having .308 brass flying from ~15 yards away ,and almost hitting you or your $850 gun, and having the idiot keep doing after he sees what is happening


Yeah, the last time I and my family took our MilSurps out to the public outdoor range, we must have fired off over 42,000 rounds of .223, .308, and 7.62x39. The mountain of cases to our right was over 5 feet tall.
Problem was the poor guy shooting bench-rest precision target in the station to our right was soooo engrossed in his perfect sight picture he'd only shot once during that time and was still holding to line up for that perfect second shot...buried somewhere in all that brass....We had to dig him out with our Glock entrenching tools before he suffocated. :D

Since the $2200 preban .308 Galil is getting brass kisses, I'd say your "$850 gun" could stand a few too. You want 'em to be perfect forever? Then go to a nice snooty private range with chandeliers and brass butlers and refrigerated buttstock racks and gun patches made from 100-dollar bills. I'll take our outdoor public range (that floods whenever it rains which makes it exciting! New Terrain after every rain! And risk the Attack Geese (r) nippin yer butt! That's a combat distraction!) ANY DAY.

But I may be positively inclined because since I work third shift I go there right when they are open before it gets hot, and the ijits show up.

[jlh26oo]

Hey Evan, how much do those gun patches cost at that range? If they are only a few dollars (or more even), would you pick me up as many as possible, and get them out to me if I paid for shipping?

Thanks.

[BluesBear]

Bullseye!

[XDKingslayer]

I've always said the best two places in the world to spot idiots is the gun range and the boat launch.

[Zach S]

http://www.galleywinter.com/main/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10040-lake_austin_ramp_4.jpg

[confed sailor]

an aggie joke leaps to mind.... forget it.

I try very very hard to be courteous at the range. When i shoot my cetme, i simply position myself at the far right. My old roomate was the worst he did not care where the brass fell. (till i popped him with 3 cases out the cetme:evil: )

We get the folks who show up with an AK 47 and a few drums and proceede to turn the backstop into a cloud of dust, as for our targets, eh who knows what happened.

[JesseJames]

This thread was most amusing to me.

Unsafe behavior from anyone at the range should not be tolerated.
Beware of the know-it-alls, movie quoting dopes, and supposed tough guys.
It behooves you to learn shooting range etiquette.
No matter how good a shooter you think you are, there is a high likelihood that there will be someone better than you. Be proud of your shooting skills but don't be arrogant about it.

I'm there to learn as much as to teach.

[STW]

Bill Cosby has a PhD from Temple

Actually, his BA is from Temple. His Ed.D. is from Univ of Mass.

Reading the various comments makes me think of one time at the public range (I go only in the AM) when I brought the target back the rope attached to the carrier broke. Now I'm afraid they thought I'd shot it. Hopefully, they didn't think I hit the rope when it was only 1-2 feet in front of me.

BTW I admit I'm prejudice. I abhor stupid behavior. Among which is looking for and finding offense when and where none is intended. :banghead:
Draw your own conclusions.

[Srigs]

It is stories like this about range problems made me buy body armor. I will aways wear it at the range. A little extra protection can't hurt! :what:

[Cousin Mike]

I'm assuming because you quoted (and corrected) me about Cos' degree, you're talking about me when you say:

I abhor stupid behavior. Among which is looking for and finding offense when and where none is intended.

If I'm wrong, then ignore me. I apologize. But if you are, I have to say... If this is not an offensive statement...

I think the stuff he said about the black community was because that he was embarassed by them

...then I don't really know what is. Trust me, I don't come here looking to be offended. I've got better things to do with my time. I'm silent about a lot of things that people write here that annoy the hell out of me. That's life. Everyone isn't going to see things my way, nor should they.

That particular statement, FWIW, was just something I couldn't ignore, and I shouldn't be expected to. It was an ignorant thing to say. Sorry if you disagree.

[STW]

CM - Not directed at you at all. Just a general statement. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

[Cousin Mike]

Well that's definitely a statement that I agree with. I apologize, I believe that was my misunderstanding. :p

I just thought... ya know...

ok well now I feel like a jerk. :o

[Nematocyst]

Mike,

Don't feel like a jerk. Stuff like this happens all the time around here. It was just a misunderstanding. You guys worked it out. You've both clarified, ostensibly sincerely, to your (plural) credit.

It's hard to interpret meaning sometimes with just words, with no body language, little inflection, etc.

Hang in there. Glad this disagreement had a good ending.

Here's to the high road.

[Silvanus]

Sometimes I'm glad that it is a little more difficult to get firearms in most European countries. It seems to scare the idiots off:D

I've never heard of or seen something like that happen at the ranges I frequent.

I also can't understand why people sometimes do those stupid things. Don't they realize that they put other people and themselves in danger, or do they simply not care?

[Shrike360]

Thats why you should join a gun club. Almost no idiots there. Plus, the club I go to, has almost no one in the short range area. Basically have the entire area to yourself. The only time they're actually full are during the shoots.

[Diomed]

Thats why you should join a gun club.

You say that like it's easy.

[RustyFN]

when i was a kid i saw a guy doing quickdraw while drinking and shoot himself in the weener.

Priceless:D :D

[Shrike360]

Quote:
Thats why you should join a gun club.


You say that like it's easy.

Well it is easier than dealing with the idiots. A bit expensive though.