Terrorism - What would you do if... (redux)


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bogie
July 21, 2005, 06:42 PM
Okay... You're in your favorite shoppin' mall, riding the bus, whatever, and the fellow in front of you stands up, yells something incomprehensible about Allah and a buncha ugly virgins, and slaps a big red button on his chest. Then there's a poof, a modest bang, and his shorts catch on fire.

What's permissible to do to the fellow, who is just now realizing that he's not in for an eternity of bliss? Slap him around? Make sure he falls down a flight of stairs (of course this may require that he be carried up a few times...)? Take turns sitting on his head until the cops get there?

Seriously, however, say something like "just the detonator goes off" happens - what should you do?

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Zundfolge
July 21, 2005, 06:50 PM
Shoot him in the head and then help everyone vacate the area.


You don't want this guy going "oh ... there's the wire that came loose...lets try that again".

Chrontius
July 21, 2005, 06:52 PM
I would assume that he's still dangerous.

Bigjake
July 21, 2005, 06:53 PM
slide lock

Rebar
July 21, 2005, 07:04 PM
slide lock
+1

griz
July 21, 2005, 07:07 PM
I would also consider him dangerous. He might have some other method of detonation or it might just be a hangfire that could go off any second. So it would be either seek cover, shoot him, or attempt to capture him. Which one (or more) of those depends on the situation.

Polishrifleman
July 21, 2005, 07:09 PM
Castrate him and take him to hooters for a pig fat wrestling match. He could assume they were virgins:neener:

On a more serious note I would try and neutralize the threat and work on a safe exit. No sense in running if he is right next to you.

Harry Paget Flashman
July 21, 2005, 07:16 PM
This time of year in NW Florida...I'm thinking he gets a bus pass to Vacation Bible School. Make him go head-to-head with a local "Shi'a" Baptist.

Azrael256
July 21, 2005, 07:47 PM
slide lock I agree, to a point. The thought occurs to me that he may be able to lead police to the fellow who made the bomb, and so on up the chain. If I could be absolutely certain of neutralizing him without killing him, I would do so, and hold him for the cops.

If I wasn't just absolutely 110% sure I could keep him from exploding or harming me or others in another way... well, slide lock.

Mannlicher
July 21, 2005, 07:57 PM
In light of what happened in London today, thats a pretty good question. I can't answer it in total, but I think I would make darn sure he did not escape, like they let them do over there.

Randy in Arizona
July 21, 2005, 08:10 PM
bogieThen there's a poof, a modest bang, and his shorts catch on fire.

After rendering him unconscious & immobile call upon the other male bystanders to help put out the smoldering shorts with an old fashioned Chinese fire drill! :evil: - - :evil:

You know there is never a cop or an extinguisher around when you need them! :D :D

BryanP
July 21, 2005, 08:31 PM
Evacuate. First my bowels, then the area.


Honestly? It depends on other factors. If everyone else can get by him and run then we should evacuate the area. If not, subdue him if possible, kill him if necessary.

Vern Humphrey
July 21, 2005, 08:38 PM
Dang!

Just today I got an email with some photos -- where one genius clenches the stick of a fireworks rocket between his butt cheeks and another Einstein lights the fuze.

Your imagination can supply the punch line here. :what:

ctdonath
July 21, 2005, 08:40 PM
One report mentions one would-be suicide bomber today tried to detonate the bomb by shooting it. Thus we may conclude not only are these maniacs explosively armed, but may very well carry other weapons - and decide to use them. Today's perps ran away; next week's might decide to shoot as many as possible as a backup plan. So yes - they are a continued threat, even beyond the bomb.

That in mind, decide ahead of time whether (assuming situation offers a choice) you want to be the hero who drops a terrorist, or enhance your chances of surviving by getting out ASAP. Choose your priorities.

However, given the spectacular failure with this attack, methinks we won't be seeing misfires again for a while; the chance to shoot a "hey, that didn't work and I'm still here" terrorist is unlikely. The bombmaker will make sure the next ones work (or he'll be dead like this one probably will be for his gross failure). The first WTC bombing was an understandable failure; this one is just freaking embarassing to AQ.

Vern Humphrey
July 21, 2005, 08:45 PM
One report mentions one would-be suicide bomber today tried to detonate the bomb by shooting it.

That can't possibly be true! They have very strict gun control in England. No terrorist would violate the gun control laws. :barf:

Khaotic
July 21, 2005, 08:54 PM
I agree, to a point. The thought occurs to me that he may be able to lead police to the fellow who made the bomb, and so on up the chain. If I could be absolutely certain of neutralizing him without killing him, I would do so, and hold him for the cops.'

+1

It's not mercy, it's considering the possibility of putting paid to the SOURCE.

-K

sumpnz
July 21, 2005, 09:45 PM
Shoot him in the 'nads, err hips, to immobilize him, then take out my ham sandwich and feed it to him. Hope he survives long enough to rat out his buddies.

chopinbloc
July 21, 2005, 10:00 PM
slide lock
+1
i understand the desire for good intelligence, but i think quick and sure eradication is more important. and how could any of you pass up the rkba victory that a dead suicide bomber in the us would be. it would be at least 20yrs before someone was foolish enough to even mention the words "gun control"

p.s. i eat pork rinds when i load my magazines and i lube my slide rails with bacon fat. anybody ever read tom clancy's teeth of the tiger? great scenario in there. after they whack the terrorists, one guy runs to get a football before the raghead dies.

Missouri Mule
July 21, 2005, 10:01 PM
Since I'm not allowed to be on a bus for just that very reason that scenario won't happen to me. That is as an honest law abiding MOCCW holder, I mean.


As for the rest I'm gonna say if I'm close enough to be effective it is "slide Lock to reload " and then help evacuate the area.

Never know if the Chickenshirt has any buddies around who require killing.

I say kill em dead! A breathing suicide bomber is still a dangerous one.

ny_vin18
July 21, 2005, 10:15 PM
id first beat the islamic culture out of him. then id find the biggest most sharpest knife i could find, most likely something like a big big bowie knife and rip him open from his stomach to his neck all the way. and laugh at him as he slowly dies a most miserable death ever.

Souris
July 21, 2005, 10:23 PM
Ya know, repeatedly shooting a guy that you can safely assume is wearing explosives just doesn't sound like a great idea to me.
I would hope that if I was there I would have the presence of mind to to assault the poor innocent terrorist, thereby violating his personal rights, to the point of his unconciousness and then leave before the cops show up!

Preacherman
July 21, 2005, 10:54 PM
ny_vin, thanks for bringing the uncivilized into a civilized venue.

Closed.

:fire:

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