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El Tejon
March 22, 2003, 08:43 AM
An author (on a book on JFK) on Scott Simon's show this morning (8:30 am, EST) stated that only ethnically non-diverse populations, such as Germany and Japan (gee, wonder how they became democracies), have a hope of democracy. Thus, freedom for Iraq will never work.

Too bad the liberals have abandoned their notions of multiculturalism and are showing their true totalitarian stripes. Maybe if the new Iraqi government is given the power to force equality and create the "New Iraqi Man" they will change their tune?:rolleyes:

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Lone_Gunman
March 22, 2003, 09:43 AM
El Tejon:

The USA is one of the most ethnically diverse populations on the planet, and right now our system still seems to be working pretty well.

Now, that may be because there is still a caucasian majority steeped in the Judeo-Christian tradition here.

If their hypothesis is correct, however, the USA will soon be headed for disaster, as minorities become the majority.

jjmorgan64
March 22, 2003, 10:02 AM
Good to know, I always hang on what the minds at NPR have to tell me, guess we'd better set them up with a nice dictatorship, any of Sadams kids still alive to lead it?:fire:

El Tejon
March 22, 2003, 10:22 AM
Yet again!

Another guest (10:23 am, EST) just stated that "forcing democracy" on Iraq would be akin to a dictatorship!!!

Oh, man . . . :rolleyes:

Standing Wolf
March 22, 2003, 04:00 PM
Another guest (10:23 am, EST) just stated that "forcing democracy" on Iraq would be akin to a dictatorship!!

After we won World War II, we shoved representative government down the throats of both Germany and Japan. I'm sure they didn't like it one bit, but that's what happens when you start wars you can't win.

I'm sure we can—and should!—shove clearly defined civil rights and representative government down Iraq's throat, and equally sure the leftist extremists will whine and snivel about it. Why? Because leftism is a species of totalitarianism.

BigG
March 22, 2003, 04:05 PM
NPR - 21st century America's electronic answer to the Voelkische Beobachter. :rolleyes:

Sir Galahad
March 22, 2003, 05:10 PM
NPR= Nationalized Pinko Radio

another okie
March 22, 2003, 05:22 PM
Ever hear of Switzerland? Two religions, four languages, frequent civil war until about 1800 and internal peace and democracy ever since. Language is far more divisive than "ethnicity," whatever that is.

aikidoka-mks
March 22, 2003, 09:43 PM
I guess that means I will hear that at work sometime next week from the "I hate America" contingent.

Mark

Shooter973
March 22, 2003, 10:18 PM
Whats a real kick in the teeth is that your tax dollars are paying to put this tripe out to the world. Good use of taxes? You decide! :cuss:

ahadams
March 22, 2003, 11:09 PM
guys: everytime somebody trys to pull this line on you simply respond as in a manner somewhat similar to "lone gunman" - something like

"Well I always said that a population as ethnically diverse as the United States would have to be ruled with an iron hand sooner or later - thanks for backing me up!" :o

and just see where they go from there - with a little prior planning you should have at least an entire afternoon of fun at the leftists' expense. :p

aikidoka-mks
March 22, 2003, 11:59 PM
That reminds me - one guy was saying that the media is biased in this country because the govt. can pull their license and the media in other countries is more independent. He impresses people with his knowledge but it seems to me he is unaware of the NY times and NPR view of this administration and how much they affect mainstream media.

Mark

Blackhawk
March 23, 2003, 12:15 AM
What ahadams said! :D

scottgun
March 23, 2003, 03:43 PM
Mainstream media should be taken with a grain of salt. NPR, I'm afraid, requires the whole shaker.

Chris Rhines
March 23, 2003, 03:55 PM
Democracy won't work in Iraq, because Democracy has never worked, anywhere, ever. :D

I don't hold much hope for Iraq becoming a Constitutional Republic with strictly limited government authority, either. You can't force someone to be free at gunpoint. Besides, if there ever were a limited-gov't Republic in Iraq, people might start asking what happened to the one here...

- Chris

El Tejon
March 23, 2003, 04:16 PM
Chris, LOL!

If we didn't force Japan, Italy and Germany into being free, at least we forced them not to be a threat?

fallingblock
March 24, 2003, 12:38 AM
on another post...

Get those Iraqis hooked on consumer goods and they will become a suitable facsimile of a constitutional republic:D

Or, at least not a threat....is that right, Chris?;)

So, there's still time for the strategic insertion of Starbuck's and McDonalds and the inculcation of the idea of reward for enterprise...or not? :confused:

I surely do enjoy the paths these threads take!:)

tyme
March 24, 2003, 12:52 AM
The USA is one of the most ethnically diverse populations on the planet, and right now our system still seems to be working pretty well.
Are you kidding? :eek: The gov's a few steps shy of getting either right-wing gun-toting republicans/libertarians/anarchists (like many at THR) or extreme liberals (who would have to sacrifice a few principles to get firearms, but haven't shown themselves to be particularly principled in the last week) to take up arms against it. It's perfectly concievable that with a little more right-wing politics and a few more left-wing laws, the government could be attacked by both groups at the same time. I don't know if that qualifies as "working pretty well," but if it does I want to know what "working really well" entails. Nuclear war?

fallingblock
March 24, 2003, 01:50 AM
for some quality 'time out' from the media-fest for Tyme:D

It's working....this is an example of the 'stress and strain' of liberty-rich government vs. the 'certainty' of totalitarian government...hang on and think of it as an ideological roller-coaster ride.

Go welcome Spring...now there is an event! :)

roscoe
March 24, 2003, 02:24 AM
Are you suggesting that liberals in general are arguing that democracy only works in culturally homogeneous countries? I think it is safe to say that you would find 99 liberals who would argue against that for every 1 who would argue for it. In fact, I am sure that this is another anti-liberal feel-good thread, and I doubt that anything I could say would matter, but I just don't buy the premise of the thread.

Tarring 'liberals' because of the opinions of one author is as absurd as condemning all gunowners because of the ravings of one gun-toting white supremacist.

El Tejon
March 24, 2003, 07:02 AM
roscoe, not when it has been done repeatedly as on NPR. Whether support for affirmative action, the welfare state or denying freedom to "others", liberals drop the mask and show their racist nature.

publius
March 24, 2003, 07:38 AM
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