can anyone recommend an all steel, high cap 9mm with a rail?


July 22, 2005, 08:09 PM
that's all, full size, steel, rail, 9mm. hopefully not super pricey. i have a witness that meets all the criteria except a rail, does anyone know if there is such an animal?

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July 22, 2005, 08:40 PM
Only thing coming to mind straight off is SIG - tho not sure about rails on earlier ones if you bought used. For new probably too pricey for the category you want - IIRC my 226 ST was region of towards $800.

I carry 15+1 - so fair capacity - will take 20 rounders but of course they stick out. Forget what Glock has to offer - the 9mm capacity is great but forget whether any rail. Oh of course - you said steel - duh - sorry!

July 22, 2005, 08:58 PM

July 22, 2005, 09:05 PM
Hah - caught your edit!! Yes, the stainless is steel frame. :)

July 22, 2005, 09:13 PM
I would say the Sig P226 Rail (not the ST version).

A new one would be around $650-700.

1911 TERRY
July 22, 2005, 09:32 PM
How about a CZ 75 SP-01. I believe it carries 18 in the magazine. Cost is in the mid $500.00 range. You should be able to get better info over on the CZ Forum.

July 22, 2005, 09:45 PM
I have been searching for the same mystery gun. So far I have come up with the Taurus PT92 and the CZ-p01. Sig and S&W would fit the criteria if the didn't cost so much.

chris in va
July 22, 2005, 10:08 PM
CZ SP-01.

July 22, 2005, 10:32 PM
Ditto...better gun, better price... :D

July 22, 2005, 10:42 PM
Doesn't the SP-01 have an aluminium frame?

July 22, 2005, 10:46 PM
Cost? It's just money. ;)

BTW it has a capacity of 17+1 with Mec-Gar magazines, which still fit flush.

Big Mike
July 23, 2005, 01:03 AM
5906 Tsw

July 23, 2005, 01:16 AM
P-01 is the aluminum framed version and the SP-01 is the stell framed version. I've got an SP-01 and it is an amazing gun...


July 23, 2005, 09:43 AM
Steel frame? Nice :cool:

July 23, 2005, 09:59 AM
The SP01 is a steel frame...cost is in the high 500's maybe 600$. There arent that many in the country but more are coming in.
That and the Sig are your apparent choices.....I like the safety on the CZ and it comes with Trijicons installed already also........:D
Shoot well.

Otherguy Overby
July 23, 2005, 05:38 PM
How about a 1911 style double stack?

The grip is polymer, but the rest is steel.

STI makes both a commander length and 5 inch pistol with a light rail.


Of course there's also SVI who will build whatever your lil' heart desires for just a bit more than your heart can stand... :)

I've a 9x23 SVI that is a hoot to shoot.

July 23, 2005, 06:10 PM
The CZ 75 SP01 Tactical is on my list near the top- it's pretty well the ultimate high-cap home defense gun, with 18+1. Just needs a Burris laser/light combo and some Hakan grips and you've got the handgun of my dreams, which I shall have soon, hopefully. Having said that, I'd also love to have a Sig 226 ST, definitely.

July 23, 2005, 06:22 PM
No laser/light (yet), but I do have the Hakans... :D

July 23, 2005, 06:24 PM
A better shot of my Hakan grips:

July 23, 2005, 06:53 PM

Beautiful grips, but that gun desperately needs allen head grip screws.

July 23, 2005, 06:54 PM
Thanks, and yeah, I agree. I just haven't got around to finding/ordering any yet.


July 23, 2005, 07:09 PM
I have brass grip screws on my Hakans.... :cool:

July 23, 2005, 10:14 PM
Newer S&W auto's has a rail. So are new Taurus pistols.
Para P18 LDA would be a good choice too.

July 23, 2005, 11:33 PM
good input, guys. thanks. i think the cz sp 101 sounds ideal. i like the witness i already have. i wonder if a 'smith could attach a rail? i know it wouldn't be pretty, but if it's do-able, it would definitely be cheaper. 'course buying the cz would give me an excuse to get another pistol and let me use those uber-cool 30 round mags.

July 24, 2005, 11:12 AM
Clark, very nice! :)

July 24, 2005, 01:58 PM
Excellent choice.... :cool:

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