Any love for one-handed shooting?


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torpid
July 23, 2005, 01:29 AM
Reading some posts, it seems like it is viewed as somehow reckless by certain folks, just barely better than a ND. :confused:
Anyone care to champion/decry one-handed shooting?

Please discuss...

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Eightball
July 23, 2005, 01:32 AM
I like it because it's fun. And, odds are, it's quicker to bring to bear on something if you're in a pinch. And, it's just cool :D --nothing like getting good groups or hitting big distances with a 1-handed shot (out of my snubnose, no less :) ). Flame suit on.

Justin
July 23, 2005, 01:37 AM
I shoot bullseye pistol. Using two hands would be cheating!

gulogulo1970
July 23, 2005, 01:44 AM
I shoot a few magazines one-handed every time I go to the range just to know that I can. I'm no better than ok shooting that way but I'm not reckless. I'm much better and faster two-handed though.

pax
July 23, 2005, 01:44 AM
If you're practicing for self-defense, you're short-changing yourself if you don't practice one handed fairly often.

Heh. Of course, it's annoying when the Range God in the lane next to you looks over and says, "You know, missy, you might do better if you used two hands."

Funny part is, at the end of the day my one-handed groups were better than his two-handed ones. :uhoh:

pax

Cesiumsponge
July 23, 2005, 01:49 AM
One-handed shooting also familiarizes you with what it's like in the unfortunate event your weak hand is rendered useless in an actual scenario...be it due to injury or you're gripping something so important, you can't use both hands (like a bag of candies perhaps).

Darkside852003
July 23, 2005, 01:51 AM
I was at family shooters corral checking out a guys para that wouldn't stop jamming. So I was smoking a marlboro with my left hand and aiming near some metal drop down targets with the right, just to see if it would jam. I hit the target to my surprise, oh and it jammed it had a busted extractor. But the cool factor was there. I normally shoot with 2 hands.

jefnvk
July 23, 2005, 01:53 AM
The only thing that I think would be reckless to shoot one handed would be a 10 gauge or .50.

Pistols are much more fun to shoot one handed, much harder to hit the target. Frustrating, but fun.

4v50 Gary
July 23, 2005, 01:55 AM
What Pax says. Don't shortchange yourself. Practice one handed shooting with both dominant and non-dominant hand.

Bacon
July 23, 2005, 02:01 AM
In the Army, shooting one-handed dates back to the Cavalry. Mounted on a horse holding the reins in one hand and shooting with the other. In more modern times it was taught so the Soldier could hold a knife with his weak hand. Of course it is smart for us civilians to practice one-handed. You may need it someday.

carebear
July 23, 2005, 02:19 AM
After all, if God meant us to use two hands, they'd be called handsguns. :evil:

Bill2k1
July 23, 2005, 05:42 AM
What gets me the look is shooting one handed with a canted weapon. Many guys look down on me for shooting "gansta" style, little do they know that a canted weapon is better because it uses forearm muscles to help steady your hand.

Khaotic
July 23, 2005, 05:49 AM
Canting it also (while admittedly reducing accuracy slightly) sends the brass towards the ground, in the case of a few pistols notorious for sending it back at your head.

-K

280PLUS
July 23, 2005, 06:39 AM
All bullseye pistol competitions except for military qualification (to the best of my knowledge) are shot one handed. Including .45. I'ts much more challenging than 2 hands. I do practice weak hand occasionally and shoot surprisingly well. Some people, even the real good ones, find their hand canting to their weak side as they shoot rapid or timed fire to the point where, in some cases, the gun will be almost "Gangsta style" when they've finished the string . For RH shooters the shells actually eject higher into the air and might bop your neighbor, LH shooters will eject towards the ground. The real trick is getting off 5 ACCURATE shots in 10 seconds with your .45.

:D

Ransom
July 23, 2005, 08:03 AM
I always try a few one handed shots at the range. I'll even switch to my off hand as well. You never know what condition you'll be in should you ever have to fire on someone.

ACP230
July 23, 2005, 11:14 AM
I was shooting an IDPA stage that began with turning to find targets five or six feet away, and more about 20 feet out.
I'd planned to turn, draw, go to two hands,and shoot all of them that way.
Instead, I turned and shot all the close targets one-handed. Then I used a two-hand hold for the farther targets.

I conclude that at close-range I'll most likely shoot one-handed.
I practice one-handed shooting more often now.

hillbilly
July 23, 2005, 11:23 AM
Depends on what you mean by "one handed."

If by "one handed" you mean casually slinging the pistol around while talking to friends and trying to not spill the open beer in your other hand, then I'd say that is reckless.


hillbilly

bakert
July 23, 2005, 11:30 AM
I try a few shots single handed from time to time. Used to see quite a few Bullseye shooters in the indoor range I go to but haven't seen any lately. Mostly older guys but a few younger ones too. Most of the guns(1911s) were set up with lighter springs for light loads. Many of them were incredible shots. Most of the older ones a bit cranky when some younger shooter cut loose with a big magnum or emptied a high capacity Glock in the next lane.

mcmoyer
July 23, 2005, 11:30 AM
After all, if God meant us to use two hands, they'd be called handsguns.

:D

I shoot as well one-handed as two with my Commander, and practice both ways. I was taught to shoot one-handed in the first place.

torpid
July 23, 2005, 01:26 PM
Depends on what you mean by "one handed."

If by "one handed" you mean casually slinging the pistol around while talking to friends and trying to not spill the open beer in your other hand, then I'd say that is reckless.

Ha- nope.
Just like when describing "two handed" I don't mean blind firing at targets by holding the gun backwards behind your head, and then keeping the muzzle pointed into a basket of kittens during the lulls.
:rolleyes:

Thanks for the replies, folks!

To my surprise I actually found that my accuracy was even better shooting one-handed with my snub, so go figure.

I just have been finding a trend in "idiots at the range" posts where the poster goes:

(silly exaggeration on)

"I was happily shooting at the range when a couple of (insert controversial ethnicity/social class here) walked in and began shooting heroin into their eyeballs while sacrificing puppies. But then they then began shooting- one handed!!! - so I knew it was time to bail before I ended up with a hot lead enema.

(silly exaggeration off) :p


Remember, not all of us one-handed shooters sacrifice puppies. :)

Vern Humphrey
July 23, 2005, 01:39 PM
Canting it also (while admittedly reducing accuracy slightly) sends the brass towards the ground, in the case of a few pistols notorious for sending it back at your head.


If you're right handed, holding the pistol with the ejection port down puts quite a twist in your arm -- I'd rather tune the gun for more peaceful ejection than do that.

While we should practice shooting one-handed, we should also practice shooting lying down, standing on one leg, and in other unusual positions. (Don't laugh -- I once had to draw an M1911 from a fanny pack whle on my hands and knees to convince a mugger to go elsewhere.)

No_Brakes23
July 23, 2005, 01:55 PM
Look, the pistol only has ONE grip, right?

I am astounded by people who look down on one handed shooting. I shoot my 1911 better with two hands, but I practice one handed with both hands.

One handed shooting is more "gentlemanly", and is certainly a different challenge. I can't fire a wheelgun with out shooting at least a few rounds one-handed.

While we should practice shooting one-handed, we should also practice shooting lying down, standing on one leg, and in other unusual positions. I agree, but that is not always a possibility at many ranges. Many RSOs would wet themselves at the sight of someone laying down and firing between their legs.

biere
July 23, 2005, 02:43 PM
Shooting one handed let my muscles in my weak arm get used to holding a steady sight picture for a period of time.

This greatly helped me when I went back to two handed.

These days I generally try and do lots of all variations. But as someone mentioned those at the range might have to limit what they try.

As for what you read, some of the grains of salt on this sight are a bit bigger than others so you have to sift what you find and only keep the ones worth hauling home.

DorGunR
July 23, 2005, 04:32 PM
Shooting one-handed is how the Army taught me to shoot pistol 50 plus years ago..........but then I'm an old phart.

Rexrider
July 23, 2005, 05:23 PM
I learned to shoot one handed after I got my first single action revolver (Super Blackhawk Hunter). You want to shoot with one hand so the handgun is free to roll in your hand from the recoil. It is much more pleasant to shoot. Your weak hand is just in the way when shooting two handed with a single action, IMHO.

Now I have seen Cowboy Action Shooters using their week hand to cock the revolver between shots. Dauuum, those guys are fast. Of course, they are using nice, soft and fluffy cowboy loads, not full house .44 magnums.

gringolet
July 23, 2005, 05:38 PM
the cavalry and horse mounted infantry (rode to fight, dismounted and fought on foot)..were trained to shoot their revolvers with one hand and this tradition remained in the military for some time..to manage horse from saddle or to hold reins with one hand and fight with the other...no harm in learning and practicing it..and to learn with off-hand...but, the general inclination and training preference for a 2 hand hold is best thing to have as your instinctual pistol stance.

1911user
July 23, 2005, 07:19 PM
I would prefer to be able to use both hands in a gunfight or competition shoot, but that isn't always possible. Sometimes flashlights, door knobs, children, etc. would limit shooting to 1 hand. I shoot USPSA on occasion and both strong or weak hand only is required on some stages (especially classifiers). If you seriously plan to defend yourself with a pistol, it is very wise to practice strong, weak, and both handed shooting.

Gunwalker.44
July 23, 2005, 08:20 PM
Contender 45-70 (handgun variety) with a 16 inch barrel, satisfying clang from 50 yards away. ONCE! it's just too muzzle heavy to hold for long with one hand. Recoil wasn't too bad.

XLMiguel
July 23, 2005, 08:44 PM
I started out with bullseye shooting in college. Nowadays, I practice one handed, dominent and weak side, along with two handed shooting, as one never knows. I suspect that WTSHTF, one might not always have the time or opportunity to assume a 'proper' stance, eh?

cracked butt
July 23, 2005, 08:55 PM
I'm not so sure if its an advantage today, but its something nobody really thinks about....

If you had to shoot out in the open where there is no cover, shoting one handed exposes a lot less of your profile as a target than shooting 2 handed does.

Malamute
July 23, 2005, 09:03 PM
I agree that one handed shooting is good practice. Shooting two handed seems simple after getting the hang of one handed.





"Now I have seen Cowboy Action Shooters using their week hand to cock the revolver between shots. Dauuum, those guys are fast. Of course, they are using nice, soft and fluffy cowboy loads, not full house .44 magnums."


I find two handed shooting of single action 44 magnums can be quick.

Sactown
July 23, 2005, 09:11 PM
I can only shoot my IZH35M and Trailside Comp one handed. The grips don't allow for 2 handed hold. I still can't quite get the 1911 one handed but i"m trying.

Standing Wolf
July 23, 2005, 10:27 PM
I've never shot any other way.

Actually, I occasionally do practice holding guns in both hands, but it feels awkward, and my accuracy deteriorates noticeably.

carebear
July 23, 2005, 10:48 PM
I'm noticing on my dry fire practice that one hand shooting really lets the truly "pointable" guns shine. Look at target, point and *boom*, the sights are right there.

If I'm going to point and shoot at all, it'll be one handed. I think I'll work on that more at the range.

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