How do you aim using night vision goggles?


March 22, 2003, 02:19 PM
I was thinking about night vision gear the other day, and it dawned on me that I have no idea how you would aim a rifle or a pistol while wearing them.

It seems like you wouldn't be able to focus on the front site because the image is (I'm assuming) projected onto a small monitor, and is therefore two-dimensional.

Where is the lens focused on a set of NVG's? Are they just fixed with the focus at infinity, or is there some way to adjust it? Do you lose depth perception with NVG's?

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March 22, 2003, 02:34 PM
With a radio link to an Apache?:cool:

March 22, 2003, 02:46 PM
very carefully...


actually, i saw something they have, at least in development, where your gun has a camera and your goggles are fed like a monitor so you can point your rifle around a corner and direct accurate fire without exposing most of yourself to enemy fire.
i don't know if this system is in widespread use i suspect not.


March 22, 2003, 02:50 PM
The US Army method is to use a PAQ-4 (is that the right number) infrared laser mounted on the handguards of an M16.


March 22, 2003, 02:51 PM
Traditionaly the an/paq 4 (I think I have the nomenclature correct) infared laser aimer is used. Basically a zeroable infared laser.

Jeff White
March 22, 2003, 04:49 PM
Shooting with NVGs is the only tactical application for a laser sight. I tried to shoot my dept. issued 5906 while wearing PVS-5s one night. The tritium night sights were like having flares burning on the slide.

The military uses the AN/PAQ-4 and AN/PEQ-2 on long weapons and white light and laser aiming devices by Insight technologies and Wilcox on handguns.


March 22, 2003, 07:07 PM
you don't

........because you can't wearing the goggles. You would have to take them off and use a night vision sight.

March 22, 2003, 07:37 PM
The combination of Gen III goggles + IR laser = badmammajamma. I'm already saving my lunch money :D

Chris Rhines
March 23, 2003, 03:49 PM
You use an IR laser sight attached to your weapon.

I had read in the past that it's possible to use tritium night-sights with night-vision equipment, but I tried it a few months back and it didn't work at all. You have to crank the focus down to your front sight, which makes it impossible to see anything past a few feet in front of you. If you take the focus out to infinify, the sights become impossible to see.

I would very much like to try again with a set of binocular NVGs, with the dominant eye focused on the sights and the weak eye focused at infinity.

- Chris

Jeff White
March 23, 2003, 08:12 PM

I tried exactly that with the PVS-5s. The tritium night sights bloomed out badly. It was impossible to get a sughtr picture. Perhaps if the pistol had no night sights it would work.


Chris Rhines
March 24, 2003, 12:26 PM
Jeff -

I used a set of ITT 5001Ps (commercial version of the AN/PVS-7, GENIII, 64 lp/mm resolution) and suffered no problem at all with the tritium sights on my CZ-75 blooming out. I can't find any specifications for AN/PVS-5s, but weren't they GENIIs? Maybe the difference in tube resolution and gating makes a difference?

- Chris

Jeff White
March 24, 2003, 07:18 PM
They were AN/PVS-5Bs which IIRC (I'll check tomorrow) are 2d generation tubes. The night sights on pur pistols were new then and quite bright.

IMHO the best option might be an AN/PVS-14 with either the standard night sights on the pistol or a laser.


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