Here's a problem with C&R.


July 26, 2005, 10:01 AM
Shipping costs. I just bought a C&R handgun from an out of state gun shop. Shipping to a 001 FFL via USPS was $17. He had no Problem in dealing with C&R holder, but he wants $42 for UPS, an increase of $25.

Now, my local FFL charges $20 for a transfer, so I am actually paying $5 MORE to receive it myself. Will pay the difference because it saves me two trips to the FFL and I will get the gun 2-3 days sooner. But the inability to use the USPS for C&R handgun shipping is a crock.

Can we start contacting the Postmaster General and bring this situation to his or her attention for review? It seems silly that FFL dealers can mail pistols but FFL collectors cannot.

BTW- In case you didn't know, US Postal Regulations prohibit mailing handguns by anyone except a 001 FFL to another 001 FFL. The word DEALER is used in the regs and that eliminates C&R. Even though it happens, a lot, it is a violation. This means C&R handgun shipments must be made via much more costly common carrier.

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July 27, 2005, 06:39 AM
I've been wrong before...

As far as I know, it's perfectly legal for an 01 FFL to ship ANY C&R firearm to a C&R holder via the USPS, handguns included. My understanding was that only 01 FFL holders were allowed to SHIP a handgun via the USPS. I know of no requirement that only 01 FFL holders are allowed to RECEIVE a handgun via the USPS.

July 27, 2005, 07:40 AM
You're getting gouged.

I've purchased several firearms on-line frm AIM and the UPS shipping was no where near $42.00

July 27, 2005, 09:25 AM
I know the dealer is padding the charge. UPS should be like $30-$35 so he's adding a few bucks for his time. A lot of sellers do it. But it's still a matter of what he charges for USPS ($17) vs UPS ($42).

Pokey074- I have read the regulations and they clearly state that only FFL DEALERS may ship AND receive handguns via the USPS. A C&R is not a dealer's license, it's a collector's license.

July 27, 2005, 06:57 PM
And that's why the last time a bought a CZ-52 from AIM I got a half-dozen of the things at once.

Made the freight reasonable on a "per unit" basis.

I've still got 'em too, kinda fun.

July 27, 2005, 08:07 PM
Walk away from that dealer.

Just yeterday I recieved 800 rds. of 30-.06 and an SKS from AIM. The total weight of the two packages was 77 LBS. The shipping on that was only $34.00!!!!!!

I have recieved two pistols from AIM and on each the shipping was about $12.00. As the pistols go overnight I know there is a bigger charge. However, $42.00 for a pistol is inexcusable gouging. Just a case of one gun enthusiast shamelessly taking advantage of another.

I would tell him to take flying fu*k at a rolling doughnut.

But that is just my opinion. :)

July 27, 2005, 09:42 PM
Can't do it. It was an auction purchase so it would be hard to back out even if I wanted to, which I don't and besides, we're talking about $7. I think sending a handgun UPS overnight is $35 and the guy is adding $7. It irks me, but not enough to curse him as you suggest. Not for $7. Like I said, many sellers add a few bucks for themselves.

July 27, 2005, 09:44 PM
Try overnight next day airsaver UPS on 3 pound package NH to CA residential delivery cause that what the C&R will be $42.00 bucks is not out of line.

Thats what UPS charges not the selller, ship somthing like that some time and see what it costs :banghead:

July 27, 2005, 10:06 PM
It has to be dealer to dealer. no on the other way.

steve the mailman :cuss:

July 28, 2005, 06:24 AM
I've been wrong before...

And it appears I'm wrong again.

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