Pink rifle graphic ("What do you teach your kids?")


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Oleg Volk
July 29, 2005, 03:40 PM
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/arms/allpink4803.sized.jpg
Madmike's kid with her own AR15. At seven, she is quite personable and certainly on the way to being this country's best hope for the future.

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/madmike/morrigan4711.sized.jpg
Same kid with her knife and sword (not visible in this photo but very much present in her sash).

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DWS1117
July 29, 2005, 03:49 PM
Great pics as always, Oleg.

While the quality isn't near that of your photos, you can see that I completely agree with the sentiment.

http://webpages.charter.net/leko/121_2109small.JPG

Kaylee
July 29, 2005, 06:56 PM
how cute!!!! :D

CTRL-ALT-DEL
July 29, 2005, 07:01 PM
Nice, very nice. I can see some antis doing the exorcists head spinning after see them. :D

Felonious Monk
July 29, 2005, 07:09 PM
Pic is your usual standard of excellence.

You have two conflicted voices speaking in the caption, though.

It needs to be one or the other:

"My Mom & Dad teach me personal responsibility.
What do your parents teach YOU?"

OR

"I Teach my kids personal responsibility.
What do you teach YOUR kids?"

(with the pic, I suggest the former).

Cesiumsponge
July 29, 2005, 07:49 PM
DWS1117:

Do you buy a new firearm each time to match the growth of your son? It'd be a good excuse :D You can look forward to the day he grows to be Barrett M82 height!

gulogulo1970
July 29, 2005, 08:13 PM
I like the first one. I would take the word "to" out.

The second picture has a creepy, Children of the Corn, thing going on.

pbhome71
July 29, 2005, 08:38 PM
The rifle looks too big. Wouldn't it be better to have something a little "smaller"?

Burt Blade
July 29, 2005, 09:18 PM
:D

I thought an AR-15 _was_ a youth gun!

:D

She will grow into a Garand all too soon.

:D

jefnvk
July 29, 2005, 09:25 PM
:D

I'm all for teaching kids at a young age, but if the rifle is taller than them, it may be wise to rethink the strategy

Maybe a pink Cricket would work as well?

Standing Wolf
July 29, 2005, 10:03 PM
It's not "What do you teach to your kids?" but "What do you teach your kids?"

English language prepositions are nothing if not cockeyed.

GunGoBoom
July 29, 2005, 10:43 PM
I can see some antis doing the exorcists head spinning after see them. +1 :evil: Nice work.

Nightfall
July 29, 2005, 10:49 PM
Gives me hope for the future. If the world is going to be a better place, this is exactly how it will be done, through children who grow up understanding personal responsibility and individual rights.

I wish I had an AR when I was a little kid. :D

DWS1117
July 29, 2005, 11:53 PM
Do you buy a new firearm each time to match the growth of your son? It'd be a good excuse You can look forward to the day he grows to be Barrett M82 height!

Sounds like a terrific idea. I mentioned it to my wife (first mistake), and she hit me. Thanks. I'll try again when she isn't pregnant. :evil:

jkswiss
July 30, 2005, 12:14 AM
I don't know why but the picture with the girl and the knife kinda disturbs me. I guess its the way shes holding it so innocently.
I think she is taller than the rifle if she were to stand up.

How young is too young? I don't know if kids can grasp at that young an age the enormous responsibility it is to handle firearms. I was probably still eating my boogers at that age and swearing to God I didn't.

Firethorn
July 30, 2005, 12:17 AM
I'm all for teaching kids at a young age, but if the rifle is taller than them, it may be wise to rethink the strategy

Looking at the picture, she would be taller than the gun if she stood up. Or are you talking about DWS1117's boy? Yeah, I think that might be a bit too much gun for him at the moment ;). But he looks so happy!

Cute kids.

itgoesboom
July 30, 2005, 12:24 AM
Only thing that bugs me is that a 7 year old girl has a nicer rifle than I do.

We are expecting our first child this weekend, and my wife gives me dirty looks whenever I comment that I am going to buy her first rifle in a couple months. :neener:

ajkurp
July 30, 2005, 12:42 AM
Everybody's a flippin' critic.

Outstanding pic, Oleg. Makes me less pessimistic of the future.

Kurush
July 30, 2005, 01:08 AM
... so Mattel does make them, after all :p

Oleg Volk
July 30, 2005, 01:09 AM
Her father, madmike, brought a copy of his new book, Targets of Opportunity (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/006056525X/qid=1122699952/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-4283102-5401661?v=glance&s=books&n=507846) for me to see. It is the follow-up to Scope of Justice. I got through about the first third of it thus far. It is a better read than the first book, written in a more fluid language and very well researched. Highly recommended. Comparisons of madmike with Clancy are beginning to annoy me, because Mike is a much better writer.

I also recommend his book "Freehold" highly and "Weapon" as a companion to "Freehold".

san408
July 30, 2005, 01:44 AM
I have a real problem with the first pic. Pictures like that can cause alot of problems and I find it to be irresponsible of him...






























Reason being that if my 9 yr old daughter sees that AR, I'll never hear the end of it from the guys when I show up at the range with one like it. Thanks alot. :D

Sindawe
July 30, 2005, 03:20 AM
Good work Oleg. I like both pics, but favor the 2nd. One can see the strong, confident woman she whe will become.

mrbill
July 30, 2005, 03:31 AM
good stuff! nothing like getting em hooked(and learning) early!

KriegHund
July 30, 2005, 03:43 AM
Nice work man! The knife picture is a little creepy...reminds me to much of those strange animes with little kids as assasins.

The_Antibubba
July 30, 2005, 04:07 AM
[Barbie voice]Oh, Ken, the mall is sooooo boring. Hey-why don't we track down Barney-I need some target practice![/Barbie voice]

DWS1117
July 30, 2005, 09:07 AM
Or are you talking about DWS1117's boy? Yeah, I think that might be a bit too much gun for him at the moment . But he looks so happy!

The picture was taken purely for fun.

He is three and although he has Eddie the Eagle down, he can't quite yet recite the four rules without help and isn't ready to keep hearing protection on for more than 30 seconds. He isn't quite ready for the AR, yet. Heck, we are still working on the nerf dart gun. We are encouraging him but not pushing. He will get there when he is ready. I am just glad that he is showing some interest.

I love that new pictures. They send the right message.

Matt G
July 30, 2005, 09:30 AM
Oleg, I personally can't find any way to improve on your original poster here. (And you know I'd tell you if I could think of anything.) Leave it as-is, and publish.

Cacique500
July 30, 2005, 09:53 AM
Take the word 'to' out of "What do you teach to your kids?"

The first pic is great...but I agree with gulogulo1970 on the second picture...there's just something creepy about a child that small with a 3 inch blade... :uhoh:

madmike
August 1, 2005, 03:35 AM
The knife is a Linder, Solingen, Germany forged blade with sambar stag hilt. The tip is rounded but the edge is sharp. She uses it to eat at re-enactments. She also helped design a 12" long Viking style sword she carries. She shoots archery at re-enactments and both Crickett and now AR at Camp Atterbury. She's well versed with safety but I still remind her often, she doesn't play with her tools, and is very responsible for her age.

I just got her a sterling silver and opal ring, too.

Why? Because she is my darling daughter and I worship the water she walks on. :)

She certainly IS innocent. But she DOES know how to use a knife and a gun. Kung fu and sword are pending.

This is not the victim you're looking for.
Move along. :D

EShell
August 1, 2005, 10:48 AM
We've got to start training the next generation of shooters.
This is my little girl's rifle, she's 20:

http://www.patriotnetwork.net/attachment.php?postid=153943

atk
August 1, 2005, 11:13 AM
Just out of curiousity, where do you find pink furniture for your rifles?

EShell
August 1, 2005, 12:22 PM
ATK,
It's all made by Cavalry Arms, but they only sell through dealers unless you have a VERY big order.

Derek, at Arizona Expert Arms (http://www.azexarms.com/cavfurniture.html), found my daughter's for me.

There are several colors available:
http://www.cavalryarms.com/furniture/clip_image001.jpg

RevDisk
August 1, 2005, 12:27 PM
The knife is a Linder, Solingen, Germany forged blade with sambar stag hilt. The tip is rounded but the edge is sharp. She uses it to eat at re-enactments. She also helped design a 12" long Viking style sword she carries. She shoots archery at re-enactments and both Crickett and now AR at Camp Atterbury. She's well versed with safety but I still remind her often, she doesn't play with her tools, and is very responsible for her age.

I just got her a sterling silver and opal ring, too.

Why? Because she is my darling daughter and I worship the water she walks on.

She certainly IS innocent. But she DOES know how to use a knife and a gun. Kung fu and sword are pending.


You know, I actually do feel sorry for the first guy that breaks her heart. Gods know what parts of his body will be broken afterwards.

Oleg Volk
August 1, 2005, 12:37 PM
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/ar15m16/colors4838.sized.jpg

atk
August 1, 2005, 12:40 PM
EShell,

Thanks :)

MSGT9410
August 1, 2005, 01:05 PM
http://olegvolk.net/gallery/albums/ar15m16/colors4838.sized.jpg
:uhoh:
Barbie is p---ed it seems.


If I get a picture of me with my stainless Mini-14 with a 30 round magazine in it, would that be cute? I'm 7 too...plus 9 years. ;)

dasmi
August 1, 2005, 01:10 PM
Excellent.
That is a young woman who will grow up knowing how to take care of herself. She won't be likely to fall for the feminist's anti-gun rhetoric.

MSGT9410
August 1, 2005, 01:12 PM
We need more parents with this mentality. :D

roo_ster
August 1, 2005, 02:02 PM
Cute kid, cute rifle, cute knife. What's not to like? The second pic could have been softened with a smile, however.

My wife isn't into "black rifles," yet. I bet she might make an exception for "pink rifles."

madmike:
If you want another tip on how to keep the boys nice & respectful when she hits high school, have the maker of her knife craft a spey knife to match the one she's currently carrying. And tell the boys what a spey knife was designed to do...

Skunkabilly
August 1, 2005, 02:34 PM
Where's the eyepatch!!!

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

madmike
August 1, 2005, 02:50 PM
I made the sword and built the rifle. The knife is commercially made for kids by Linder.

I also sell the colored hardware and can do builds and powder coats, etc.

Yes, I'll make her a spey blade or something similar. Heh.

She can't smile too much at present--missing 4 top and two bottom teeth. And has a small jaw. I figure orthodontist bills are around the corner when the new ones come in.

ny32182
August 1, 2005, 03:25 PM
That kid has some beautiful eyes. Congrats.

I'd change the text like several people mentioned, other than that I like them just fine.

Knife_Sniper
August 1, 2005, 03:36 PM
http://animelochi.nm.ru/article/gunslingergirl-disk2_r5_jcover.jpg

MSGT9410
August 1, 2005, 03:45 PM
Nothing quite like a Japanese school girl with a Sig-552 :uhoh:

Knife_Sniper
August 1, 2005, 04:09 PM
The character is Italian. :neener:

MSGT9410
August 1, 2005, 04:25 PM
Eh, sue me. There's Japanese writing. :neener:

cpileri
August 1, 2005, 05:23 PM
I know short captions are earier to remember and preferred for effect, but htis one might do with a longer one. How about;

My Mommy teaches me to be safe with her rifle:
Always treat it as if it were loaded, and
I know where the safety is.
What does your mommy teach you?


Emphasises the woman aspect by using mommy instead of daddy. emphasizes saety above all. contrasts with the 'freak out and run away' advice of the anti-2A crowd.


BTW: if you were to do a 4 year old kid or something, then the 'don't touch it and tell and adult' advice might be the right caption. But this kid is old enough for the safety lesson.

C-

Skunkabilly
August 1, 2005, 07:58 PM
A real Italian would have a Beretta AR-70. Or BM59. PING!!! (sorta)

:evil:

Still cute. What's the story? Comic book?

Standing Wolf
August 1, 2005, 08:24 PM
Because she is my darling daughter and I worship the water she walks on.

Well said! Very well said!

brian roberts
August 1, 2005, 08:36 PM
I really like the first one, quite good. i have no preference for the second, perhaps when the teeth come in, another w/a smile would be good. ;)

If you go to PJS investments, he had one there w/a little girl & the AUG that i thought was REALLY something, maybe you could check it out.... :cool:

It would be nice if you could get one of those rifles for a day or two.....
there's just something about the AUG......

I know, i got it, i GOT IT!!!

"......but nobody doesn't like the AUG......." (to the tune of the Sarah Lee commercial) remember, it was BORN COPYRIGHTED here, by ME, (I need all the help i can get). :cool:

cracked butt
August 1, 2005, 08:47 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/brimic/Picture024.jpg My son is too young to shoot a rifle yet, but he's not too young to put to work reloading. Here he's seating bullets in 7.5 Swiss cases for his dad. Keeps him busy and from messing up my workshop.

The_Antibubba
August 1, 2005, 10:15 PM
Ohhhh-THAT'S what children are for. :D

Knife_Sniper
August 1, 2005, 10:42 PM
Gunslinger Girl clip:
http://www.d3lf.net/p90/p90_gunslinger.wmv

Jubei
August 1, 2005, 11:00 PM
Nice work Oleg, and cute kid too.

I don't think that madmike has to worry too much about his daughters first date.

Jubei

madmike
August 1, 2005, 11:15 PM
I don't think that madmike has to worry too much about his daughters first date.

"Mom is a combat photographer who did Basic at age 35. Mom wants her back at 11. If I were you, I'd do it."

10 Ring Tao
August 2, 2005, 05:22 AM
We've got to start training the next generation of shooters.
This is my little girl's rifle, she's 20:

And next you're going to say you live in michigan, right?

EShell
August 2, 2005, 10:51 AM
Quote:We've got to start training the next generation of shooters.
This is my little girl's rifle, she's 20: :
And next you're going to say you live in michigan, right?
:D
No, MD, but I AM a state hunter ed instructor and NRA RSO instructor.
We've got to start training the next generation of shooters. ;)

I'll edit my profile . . .

TheCO
August 2, 2005, 12:11 PM
That girl is gonna be trouble. I'm glad I'm not her Da, i don't have time to kill that many boy children.

What do i think of this, and http://iwt.blogspot.com/2005/08/good-teachers-bad-teachers-new-award.html teachers?

madmike
August 2, 2005, 12:58 PM
Standing Wolf

It's not "What do you teach to your kids?" but "What do you teach your kids?"

English language prepositions are nothing if not cockeyed.

Cockneyed. At least if they're from London.

txgho1911
August 2, 2005, 04:15 PM
Let's post it in every gov school in the country.
We will need lots of extra copies for all the tear downs by panicked teachers and admins.

TheCO
August 3, 2005, 07:07 PM
jkswiss,

I've watched that girl shoot. She is more responsible than most children four or five years older. And her father does watch her carefully, even if he's helping other people correct their shooting.

Tylden
August 3, 2005, 09:05 PM
I think this one is a good youth size model. http://www.big-boys.com/articles/minimachine.html Just kidding okay ? lol It is pretty nifty though

Actually, my son is turning 11 in September and wants to learn to shoot. He'll be starting out with a CZ 452 Scout .22 rifle and a family membership to the local shooting club complete with professional training :)

quinlanv
August 21, 2005, 04:13 PM
I like it :D

My son has been known to scold people with poor weapons safety now and again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v464/quinlanv/miniquinp90ISmall.jpg

PCGS65
August 22, 2005, 02:12 AM
Can I buy one of those a walmart? My son would love one and so would I. Teach resonsibility at a young age and they will grow up just fine that's what I did.

GregGry
August 22, 2005, 02:40 AM
Is that the real Fn p90? :what:

quinlanv
August 22, 2005, 11:04 AM
Is that the real Fn p90?


Oh yes :D
Not mine though :(
It is an FN demo gun. The kid loved it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v464/quinlanv/miniquinp90IIISmall.jpg

Gus Dddysgrl
August 22, 2005, 01:00 PM
I don't want lots of daughters, but I hope if I have one she will be that cute and not want a pink gun. She'll hopefully want one that hides better in the woods or under clothing. :neener: :uhoh: :D :eek: I hope my daughter is similar to me, but without my mistakes.

I agree that I feel bad for the first boy to break her heart. :rolleyes:

Great posters Oleg. I like the message.

Gus

Oleg Volk
August 22, 2005, 01:08 PM
Gus,

I'd think a well-armed girl would show MORE restraint than someon ewho'd not been taught self-control, respect for the self-determination and free will of others. That said, I have had experience with an exception to that expectation a while back...but it was non-violent.

artherd
August 23, 2005, 03:35 AM
Awesome AR and P90 pics guys.

Can she shoot yet? That'd be awesome.

madmike
August 31, 2005, 12:59 AM
Yes, she shoots .22 and now 5.56, and is decently accurate. She's been shooting rifle and archery since age 4, though admittedly she mostly just pulled the trigger back then, and shot stuffed toys with arrows from 5 yards. But it got her familiar and comfortable.

We're also working on her kung fu and blade fighting.

madmike
September 8, 2005, 03:24 AM
Back to Camp Atterbury this weekend.

Her prone supported form is PERFECT. Textbook PERFECT. And at 100 yards she's on silhouette reliably.

Now to add stick and kung fu.

madmike
September 8, 2005, 03:27 AM
No, MD, but I AM a state hunter ed instructor and NRA RSO instructor.
We've got to start training the next generation of shooters.

Are EBRs LEGAL in MD? I thought they'd done the CA third world thing.

Oleg Volk
September 23, 2005, 11:20 PM
http://www.libertyoutlet.com/store/bystore.html?store=3&display=list&lastitem=&sort=datenew

madmike
December 11, 2005, 06:44 PM
http://www.firedog.com/morgun.jpg

Here she is again. The double .410 is still too big for her. But in another 2-3 years...

Strings
December 11, 2005, 11:04 PM
>"Mom is a combat photographer who did Basic at age 35. Mom wants her back at 11. If I were you, I'd do it."<

Is this along the lines of the "Never mind the dog..." stickers?

"You don't have to worry about me, boy. I ain't gonna do nuthin' to ya. But her mother... " :evil:

Steamship Trooper
December 12, 2005, 03:28 PM
Cute kid.

Yeh, you can scare off most of the boys. Keep an eye on the one that says "AR-15? COOOL!";)

madmike
December 12, 2005, 10:55 PM
Cute kid.

Yeh, you can scare off most of the boys. Keep an eye on the one that says "AR-15? COOOL!";)

Hillary in 2008!!

I suspect then there may not be an election in 2012.


If they think it's cool, we have a starting point.

I suspect Hillary in 2008 would lead to an emergency election to fill the hole in 2009, Jan 23.

twoblink
December 13, 2005, 12:58 AM
Madmike... Question..

How do you make a girl with her own AR eat her vegetables?????:neener:

Very very cute, I hope to have a daughter of my own someday..

Forget gun ownership as a big responsibility.. how about parenting?? That's what we lack nowadays.. Good ol' fashion parenting.

There is very little hope, but at least there is hope from pics like this.

madmike
December 13, 2005, 09:00 AM
Madmike... Question..

How do you make a girl with her own AR eat her vegetables?????:neener:



She likes carrots, apples, bananas, fresh salad and a few others.

She also spotted everything wrong with the tactics here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=414704&page=1 (Liberian Civil War Thread)

Strings
December 13, 2005, 05:30 PM
ok Mike, I have to ask: was she the basis for Cally in John Ringo's Posleen series? ;)

madmike
December 13, 2005, 05:34 PM
ok Mike, I have to ask: was she the basis for Cally in John Ringo's Posleen series? ;)

No, he hadn't met her then. But I have a disturbing photo of Morrigan and her friend Carrie with Erin Gray. The two girls look like twins and all they need are wifles.

Be vewwy, vewwy quiet. Weah hunting Unos. Hehehehehehe.

(obligatory Freehold reference)

rocky
December 13, 2005, 08:20 PM
My daughter likes shooting my Ar too. The collap.stock gives her a better LOP than my 10/22. She is now 9. Both my daughters since the time they could talk were taught guns are NOT toys and gun handling. They only get to shoot u8nder direct supervision, of course. I am proud of em both.

madmike
December 14, 2005, 05:57 PM
The collap.stock gives her a better LOP than my 10/22.

Exactly. Shame on Sarah Brady for trying to stifle these children's sporting interests with stupid bans on adjustable stocks.

Think I should call and ask her to explain it to Morrigan face to face?:evil:

4v50 Gary
December 14, 2005, 08:22 PM
Oleg & Mike - nice shot of Barbie with a pink blaster. However, I think a plastic stock M-1 Carbine with a red dot sight (or EO Tech) mounted on a forward scope mount would be more to scale.

madmike
December 14, 2005, 09:22 PM
Oleg & Mike - nice shot of Barbie with a pink blaster. However, I think a plastic stock M-1 Carbine with a red dot sight (or EO Tech) mounted on a forward scope mount would be more to scale.


But I have neither an M1 Carbine nor a pink stock for one, therein lies the problem.

As far as I know, the M4 is shorter than the M1.

madmike
January 2, 2010, 04:08 AM
Update, 2008, the Perky Goth stage:

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/26725-2/m4morrigan_4476.jpg

rust collector
January 2, 2010, 08:34 AM
She'll get a kick out of that photo in 20 years or so. Good technique, keeping fingers out of the trigger guard.

Too bad no one cares enough to accessorize her AR. You could add something every birthday--make a chARm rifle. First item would have to be a rail, of course...

Bolt appears closed, so I am glad you were using the remote shutter release.:D

wishin
January 2, 2010, 08:48 AM
Great shot. Pretty girl and pretty gun. How about an update every 4-5 years?

madmike
January 2, 2010, 09:07 AM
Rust: Oleg took that on a controlled range at Knob Creek, with professional safety precautions. He's not that close or within muzzle swing.

Wishin: There were probably be updates every few months. He's using her for other photos.

CosmicGrooves
January 2, 2010, 10:05 AM
Madmike, very cool pic!

Mooseman
January 2, 2010, 10:46 AM
I don't see a link to a pic in the first post, am i missing something?:confused:

madmike
January 2, 2010, 12:40 PM
I think they got relocated. I was trying to find that one myself.

luigi
January 2, 2010, 01:35 PM
Nov.1, 2009 THR.ORG deposition results

I'd like to see an update on this

kwelz
January 2, 2010, 03:45 PM
Me too.

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