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gudel
March 23, 2003, 02:43 PM
i have a canon S45 digital camera, and i would like to take pics of my HK. anyone knows the standard technique to do this? pictures like the firearms manufacturers put on their web sites.

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Telperion
March 23, 2003, 02:50 PM
Ken Lunde takes some really great pictures of his guns, and has some tips on how to do it well.

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/firearms.html

gudel
March 23, 2003, 02:58 PM
thanks for the quick reply! those are some high rez pics!

Chipperman
March 23, 2003, 04:17 PM
Make sure the background is not too light or too dark.
A lot of people try to take pics of guns on a white sheet, but the contrast causes loss of detail.

Blackhawk
March 23, 2003, 04:37 PM
Ken Lunde's tips are pretty much right on the mark. :D

cratz2
March 23, 2003, 04:45 PM
Also, while it's always good to get the best pic possible, minimal use of Photoshop can transform a decent pic into a very good one.

Lunde is obviously on the money or else his pics wouldn't come out great.

My best tip is to try to use as much natural light as possible and avoid the flash. Of course, you want the camera is be as still as possible, esp with cameras with slower shutters. Even a cheap tripod can work wonders.

gudel
March 23, 2003, 04:54 PM
yeah i got a tripod and i can use reflector to eliminate shadows i notice one some of these pictures. i'll put up some pics when i get it tomorrow. 20hr countdown... yeah, cali 10 day waiting :mad:

Telperion
March 23, 2003, 08:44 PM
I'd add one other thing to Lunde's list. If your gun is black, then your camera will probably tend to overexpose it. If your camera has manual controls, then you may want to adjust the exposure down 1.5-2 stops or use an incident light meter.

HSMITH
March 23, 2003, 08:59 PM
When you start feeling decent about your photography skills try a bright hard chrome or stainless gun. What a P.I. MY A.!!!!

Standing Wolf
March 23, 2003, 09:25 PM
Post-process in an image-manipulation application. I use Adobe Photoshop, and use a combination of "Auto Levels," "Auto Contrast," and "Auto Color" to enhance the photos, and improve the color. Sometimes I use all three, but sometimes only one or two of these functions. It depends on the photo. If the color is really bad, I typically "Desaturate," which essentially takes away all color, resulting in grayscale. I feel that desaturating is better than poor color.

I've found it helps actually to read the Photoshop manual from cover to cover a time or two. Auto-anything in Photoshop is a mistake.

Sisco
March 23, 2003, 09:30 PM
I'd love to have Photoshop to play around with, but for the same price I could have a new gun. Or a couple of used ones. I'll settle for less than perfect but still pretty good photos.
With a digitial camera it's not like you're wasting film or $$$ down at one hour photo, if it doesn't come out OK the first time, do it again.

cratz2
March 23, 2003, 11:58 PM
I've found it helps actually to read the Photoshop manual from cover to cover a time or two. Auto-anything in Photoshop is a mistake.

Point taken. And having quite a bit of experience with Photoshop, I usually use my own settings... But really, you've got to admit that Lunde's techniques seem to be working.

Examples of Ken Lunde's work:

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/p7psp-top-right.jpg

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/sp2340-left-full.jpg

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/photos/p5c-left.jpg

gudel
March 24, 2003, 12:18 AM
i'd rather buy a nice compact 9mm in complement to my usp 45 than spending on photoshop. but then again i get photoshop at work :D

actually i'm quite pleased with my camera since it doesn't really need photoshoping much. it seems that the background is somekind of jeans/denim materials.

here's a shot i took in low light situations, just using standard bulb light and a 24" flourescent light.

i'm about 15hour from picking up my HK :D

cratz2
March 24, 2003, 01:48 PM
Before and after using Lunde's ineffective auto/auto/auto process. Very nice pic, by the way gudel.

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=187614.jpg

http://thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=188427.jpg

gudel
March 24, 2003, 01:53 PM
cool cratz2, yes i took a few pics, one using vivid, one is normal and other was using high stop. i think the vivid one makes the cartridge too yellow, but now it's daytime, i'll take some pics more later using window light. this should be okay. photographers suggested to use box or umbrella, but they're expensive! ($600 range). it's probably the white balance that got messed up, since i got bulb and flourescent.

oh btw, how did you make the pic show in the browser? i attached it, but it only shows as attachment.

gudel
March 24, 2003, 04:44 PM
if anyone interested to see some pics, i just got the HK 45 (http://www.pbase.com/gudel/hk_45_usp). this is a quick pic

cratz2
March 24, 2003, 05:03 PM
Good pics... I esp like the one with the USP standing up resting on the mags.

To get the pic to show up in the window, attach it just like you did and make the post. Click the link in the post you just made and right click on the image and select properties. Cut the address. Go back and edit the post and paste the address and add '.jpg' to the end and put the {img} and {/img} tags (using the standard brackets, not the ones I've used here) and save the post. Voila! Now there is a picture in your post.

If you really have a lot of time on your hands or are just generally a perfectionist, you can link the picture to a post over in the 'Testing' forum and then link to it in your regular post. That way, there won't the clickable link in your post... Looks a bit neater.

XLMiguel
March 24, 2003, 10:03 PM
Good tips, thx for the Lunde link.

FWIW, Photoshp[ Elements is $99. You get the the most used/useful parts of Photoshop for about 1/5th of the price of the whole enchilada.

All in all, digital photography has made life much easier - if you can get good resolution & sharpness to start, you can pretty much build the rest. Like shooting guns, practice, practice, practice.

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