[cuchulainn]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81935,00.html

'Huge' Chemical Weapons Plant Found in Iraq

A senior pentagon official has told Fox News on Sunday that coalition forces have discovered a "huge" chemical weapons factory near the Iraqi city of An Najaf, which is situated some 225 miles South of Baghdad.

Coalition troops are also said to be holding the general in charge of the facility.

Fox News' Bret Baier and Ian McCaleb contributed to this report.

[Sir Galahad]

That's impossible. Hans Blix said there weren't any.:rolleyes:

[Mike Irwin]

Question is, what kind of chemicals?

And are the instruction manuals printed in French?

[veloce851]

BUZZ :)
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[El Tejon]

Mr. Irwin, French? Most likely German. Those Dutchies know a thing or two about this stuff.

This can't be true! Hollywood, the NY media and liberal talk show hosts told me that these things did not exist. No doubt time will show that these WMD were planted by George Bush and Tony Blair.:rolleyes:

[longeyes]

This can't be true. You sure Mark Fuhrman wasn't in Iraq recently?

[Mike Irwin]

Tejon,

E.G. Farben and Siemens without a doubt have the capacity to supply this type of equipment, but I really think that if anyone has been supplying materials, it's the French.

Look who has been pushing hardest for the end of sanctions against Iraq over the past 12 years -- the French.

Why?

Because they were supplying high tech stuff to Iraq before the first Gulf War, and that market is closed to them, legally, at least.

[Sir Galahad]

Of course France wants an end to sanctions. Who else is dumb enough to buy those piece of crap Mirages and Pumas?:D

[dev_null]

The Iraqis will claim that this is a legitimate plant, such as for pharmaceuticals or even baby formula ("OK, then let's see you feed this to YOUR kids!"), and the apologists at home and abroad will jump to take their word for it over that of the allied brass. :rolleyes:

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[telewinz]

No doubt its just baby powder or baby milk mom and pop operation. Story was reported by a Jewish Zion Dog newpaper reporter in hebrew and shown on a jewish, zion, dogeating TV so........it can't be true. Besides it was planted by the American jew loving, zionist pig, dog loving christian materalistic Roosevelt worshipping warmongers. Their I hope that takes care of any rumors floating around.:D

Besides Alan Funt (candid camera) was on the inspection team wasn't he?

[AZTOY]

Mike

The Russian are selling Weapons to Iraq too. :mad:

Well that is want the "NEWS" is saying.

:uhoh: :uhoh:

[cordex]

The Iraqis will claim that this is a legitimate plant, such as for pharmaceuticals or even baby formula ("OK, then let's see you feed this to YOUR kids!"), and the apologists at home and abroad will jump to take their word for it over that of the allied brass.
Sadly, there are those that would be more than willing to feed their kids the "baby formula" produced in such plants as long as they could play with our kids immediately afterwards.

[Mike Irwin]

I know the Russians are selling weapons to the Iraqis, or at least they have been.

But, quite frankly, I'll trust the Russians a LOT farther than I'll trust the French on issues such as this.

[tyme]

Until the military says they found x amount of vx, x amount of sarin, x amount of anthrax, x amount of botulinum toxin, etc., I am not very impressed with the "reporting" of this "WoMD site" by the media. I want there to be undeclared WoMD as much as Bush, because otherwise U.S. relations with many other countries will be dicey for a long time after the war. But how can you declare something a chemical or biological weapons plant without identifying chemical or biological weapons?

[TexasVet]

Finding a plant covering 100 acres, completely camoflaged, surrounded by barbed wire and commanded by an Iraqi General (captured) MIGHT be a small tipoff.:rolleyes:

[tyme]

Who knows. It could be a counterintelligence operation designed to screw with international opinion after we say it's a chemweapons factory and it's not.

[PATH]

Most countries camoflague their factories right!:cuss:

Stinkin French creeps!:fire:

[Standing Wolf]

I'm sure the leftist extremists are already issuing "fake evidence' press releases.

[CampX]

Okay, this just in. Supposedly it is a 100 acre complex, camoflaged to avoid detection. Sure. This when you hear that the US spy satellites can get a license plate off a car from space, and that they are tracking every movement inside Baghdad. Give me a break, I'm sure it wasn't just "found". Kinda defies logic.

[TexasVet]

This when you hear that the US spy satellites can get a license plate off a car from space, and that they are tracking every movement inside Baghdad.
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"Sure." Night, clouds, dust storms, camo, knowing when the sats are overhead and when they aren't... It ain't that hard.

[WilderBill]

I think we all knew that something like this would turn up.
The camo and General in command does seem to indicate that it is a chem weapons plant. Also, that's what the general said it is.
If he continues to co operate, then maybe we can't find some other sites before they are destoyed.

[Don Gwinn]

OK, CampX, I'll play along. Let's assume for the moment that the U.S. knew the plant was there and what was being produced. How does that change anything?

Oh, right. I forgot. We were supposed to tell the inspectors, right? Well, nuts to that. If it would have endangered any sources we might have needed for the current invasion, then we'd have been fools to let the inspectors in on what we knew.

And frankly, there's always the possibility that it wasn't a danger, and we DID tell 'em. . . . and they ignored it. Blix has been known to do that with information that doesn't fit his agenda, after all.

Finally, anyone who tells you that a camouflaged facility of 100 acres or less in a desert/mountain nation the size of California cannot evade detection is lying to you. They're satellites, not magic wands.

[Mike Irwin]

Oh good grief, guys. I don't know how stupid we can be...

Obviously a Zionist conspiracy. Those wascally Jews just zipped in an built that factory overnight.

[Sir Galahad]

I'm sure the U.S. built the plant in two days so they could "find" it. SEALS snuck in and did it. With help from a new CIA tool, the "pop-up factory".:rolleyes:

[Gary H]

The capture of two general officers makes this plant sound important. Presently, we only have one source, an Israeli journalist, for the details stated above. Time will tell.

What bothers me is that we are about to see the real fight. With Saddam holed up in Baghdad (assuming that he isn't room temperature,) I can imagine that he could very well start killing his own people and suggest that he will only stop when we leave the country. Four million hostages and chemical weapons makes for more than just a little complication.

[AQUAJOE]

I bet it is not a plant the MR Blix's team has searched. We would have heard of a plant with barbed wire and camo.

[Cal4D4]

Pardon me for lack of detail and accuracy but...

Nice discussion on FoxNews with a former UNSCOM inspector Tim Trevan regarding how current UNMOVIC style inspection is done. Former style was no talk of intention or destination while in country. Current style was many levels of committees/leaks before going to an already known past site to verify it had not been reactivated. No wonder Bush and Co. didn't fill in all known intelligence.

Thanks, I had UNSCOM and UNMOVIC switched.

edited to add inspector's name and switch the 2 organizations

[Mike Irwin]

"Do I have UNMOVIC and UNSCOM reversed?"

Does it really matter?

[tyme]

Doesn't matter, but UNMOVIC (http://www.un.org/Depts/unmovic/) is the new one (since UN Res 1284 in 1999).

[Blackhawk]

Well said, Don Gwinn. :D

[foghornl]

Blix couldn't find a nuke till it went off in his shorts... :scrutiny: :cuss:

[Azrael256]

On a related note, did anybody catch the Frontline show about what brought us here? The UNSCOM inspectors caught the Iraqis with all kinds of nuke-building equipment, but a few inspections later the security council wouldn't back them up when the Iraqis kept them from doing further inspections... any guesses which members wanted out of inspections? (Hint: the three countries speak russian, chinese, and french) Oddly enough, that Scott Ritter (sp?) fella was the one bitching about finding damning evidence that the UN wouldn't back them up on... same guy who swore, on national TV, that Iraq had no more WMD. More inspections, eh chirac? You weren't saying that when we were finding nuke plants in the desert.