Which Bavarian delicacy?


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Handy
March 23, 2003, 09:15 PM
Unlike my looney "which gun?" post of last two weeks ago, I'm looking for real opinions this week. Here are the two items o' interest:

Lightly used Steyr GB commercial. Finish wear, 200 rounds fired total. This ahead of its time beast features a fixed 5" barrel, gas delay, 18 round mags and a modern decock only DA/SA system. All steel constuction, yet weighs 27 oz. This is one of the most accurate combat autos ever. Fits well with my other junk.

Along the same innovative line, I found a NIB Mauser HSc .380 for $389 (or maybe less?). I don't care for the caliber, but the action is smooth, the blue is nice and the grips are wood. Interesting barrel latch for takedown later copied by HK on the HK4 and P9S. Nice DA/SA trigger pulls, prototype of the trapizoid sights that Steyr uses. Just seemed really nice.

Both of these guns seem like my kinda thing. Anybody got an opinion (or off the wall 3rd suggestion?)

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another okie
March 23, 2003, 10:18 PM
Well, those Weisswursts you get at the little stand at the downtown vegetable market are sure good. And don't forget Riesen Eisbein, a giant pig's joint served in vinegar. Yum!

Oh, you mean a gun..

Tamara
March 23, 2003, 10:24 PM
What're the markings on the HSc?

Is it an Interarms gun? (The Italian-made Interarms guns were junk, while the Oberndorf originals are schweet.)

BTW, HK copied more than just the takedown procedure from the HSc to the HK4... ;)

T.Stahl
March 23, 2003, 11:00 PM
I'm sorry, but Steyrs are from Austria, not Bavaria, and as both Mausers and HKs come from Oberndorf, they aren't Bavarian either. ;)

Handy
March 23, 2003, 11:02 PM
Huge apologies. I was confused by all the Bavarian food at the Autrian ski chalets.

Is there a good term for the Astro-Germanic area. Is "Hun built" not PC enough?

Tamara
March 23, 2003, 11:53 PM
Is there a good term for the Astro-Germanic area. Is "Hun built" not PC enough?

Given the southern Germanic predilection for beer, fast cars and funny German accents, I think "German redneck" would be about right.

Like I was teasing lendringser about the other day (when he was relating a madcap tale of his vater having fun with a bud of his), what's "Hey, y'all! Watch this!" auf Deutsch? ;)

Handy
March 24, 2003, 12:22 AM
Tamara,

You actually own an HSc. No opinion about that?

Tamara
March 24, 2003, 12:34 AM
I think the HSc is the neatest of the streamlined German pocket pistols (PPK, HSc and P-230).

The engineering details like the faired-in hammer and the auto-slide-drop upon magazine insertion are just super swoopy. Mine's an oddball; an Oberndorf-made .32 with Interarms markings.

T.Stahl
March 24, 2003, 07:33 AM
Is there a good term for the Astro-Germanic area. Is "Hun built" not PC enough?

I'm actually coming from the middle west of Germany, but am living for what already seems to be a long time in what I refer to as the "Southern States". ;)
"Hun built" is ok with me. :D

..., what's "Hey, y'all! Watch this!" auf Deutsch? ;)

Hmm, what did he say?

"Alle ma' herschau'n!" ?? :D

cratz2
March 25, 2003, 02:04 AM
My favorite Bavarian delicasy. :p

http://photos.imageevent.com/cratz2/carscars//BMW5.jpg

Handy
March 25, 2003, 02:06 AM
I already have one, thank you.



No one here knows anything about either gun, eh?

cratz2
March 25, 2003, 02:33 AM
Don't know anything about the Steyr. One time I was in a gunshop and a guy brought in a HSC that was supposedly Nazi marked but the mark had been gently filed off. He was asking $800 for the gun and the dealer sort of laughed at him. I asked if I could handle it and it seemed like a very high quality gun, lots of machined parts and reeked of quality. If the newer ones are close to the old ones, I'd love to have one... for less than $800 of course.

Nightcrawler
March 25, 2003, 03:19 AM
Okay, somebody fill me in on this Mauser HSc. I know nothing about it.

Tamara
March 25, 2003, 10:06 AM
No one here knows anything about either gun, eh?

What do you want to know about it?

"The Mauser HSc is a blowback-operated, double- and single-action pistol, with a non-decocking safety. Chambered for 7.65 Browning, it holds eight rounds of ammunition in a detachable box magazine."

Or the anecdotal evidence mentioned above: "Stay away from the Italian-made Interarms imports; they're breakage-prone shop queens.", and "If you like mechanically interesting guns, you'll love the HSc; the sorta 'faired-in' hammer, internal slide release (that drops the slide automatically when a mag is inserted), and even the detail of the sliding mag-release are all very slick. Get an Oberndorf-made one and be happy."


As far as Steyr GBs go, they're interesting, but the size and the price of spare mags have kept me away.

Handy
March 25, 2003, 01:24 PM
Thank you.

Handy
March 25, 2003, 08:35 PM
Well, the HSc is neat, and cheap, but I'm going to bite the bullet and seek out a nice GB.

The two fixed barrel 9s I have are very accurate, and it would be neat to try something with a longer sight radius.

Tamara
March 25, 2003, 08:39 PM
The GB has that in spades. Let us know how it shoots!

(Last couple I saw were in the $800-$900 bracket, although there was one at a gun show last year for seven and change with one magazine; I kinda wish I'd bought it... :( )

Handy
April 1, 2003, 07:33 PM
Just an update for those who care:

Using the 'old boy network' I found a nice commercial GB for $500 including shipping from a shop in Mississippi. They think they only have one mag, though. So that's another kettle of fish.

I have high hopes. I've been able to get some amazing accuracy out of the other two fixed barrel autos, and this may prove to be even more satisfying.



And yet another apology to the geographically sensitive.

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