seen a high standard bull pup today
KarbineKrazy
August 7, 2005, 06:13 PM
Talk about a sweet shotgun!
If I have $1100 I would have bought the thing! It was really cool.
I was gonna buy an 870 but I seen absolutely ZERO 12 gauge 3 inch 870s that weren't under $400 today at the gun show.
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slopemeno
August 7, 2005, 09:10 PM
Look on Shotgun News and the Auction sites. They should be much less than that if you really want one.
mnrivrat
August 7, 2005, 10:20 PM
Unfortunatly the Hi - Std bull pups did not have a very good reputation for reliability.
The price tag reflected something other than it's ability for great function.
KarbineKrazy
August 7, 2005, 10:55 PM
really? I thought they were supposed to be good! :eek:
Sure looked cool.
I want an 870 anyway.
mattw
August 8, 2005, 12:14 AM
i got my 870 express magnum for $214 at Academy
slopemeno
August 9, 2005, 09:23 PM
Dont get all crazy about the 3" thing. 2.75" 12 ga ammo will do everything you need for defensive work. Read around here and notice how many guys are singing the praises of the low-recoil buckshot.
I've had lots of experience with the 10-B, by the way. Fun gun. Shot a round of sporting clays with one and got some serious stares (Broke 37 out of 100).
It needs full power ammo to cycle (i.e. 2.75" high base) so it recoils, and the action is essentially right against your shoulder with about 1/4" of rubber to cushion it. With the flashlight mounted it actually shoots close enough to where the light goes to work. The interior of the loading port and the shell stops are all sharp (still, after all those years) and will leave your thumb bloody. Make sure to push the rounds well past the shell stop. A round popping past the stop is a real hassle to clear. Its fairly fast on 5 pepper-poppers since the recoil is straight back, with almost no muzzle climb.
If you want it, get it.
Fred Fuller
August 10, 2005, 10:59 AM
I sold my Model 10-A for a grand about ten years ago. Been kicking myself ever since, too. It was a real eyecatcher, everyone who saw it wanted to shoot it. Worked well for me too, I never had any trouble with it. But I always fed it full house ammo, no wimpy stuff.
Not an easy gun to pull maintenance on, and i have never seen a shotgun that cried out more for a magazine extension. Muzzle light as all get out like all bullpups, atrocious trigger pull too as per usual. But worth it all for the handiness and the ease of one handed operation if necessary. IMHO it was far ahead of its time, I sincerely wish its equal (dare I hope for better?) was available today.
Ditto on the not worrying about 3" stuff in an 870, 2 3/4 will cover everything save serious waterfowl/turkey addiction.
lpl/nc
slopemeno
August 10, 2005, 02:08 PM
Wow- a 10-A. THATS rare. Most of them had the flashlight batteries start leaking and do a real number on the brass conductors, as well as the barrel underneath. The county I grew up in had a rather progressive Sheriffs Dept, and a number of their Deputies carried 10-a's and -b's as trunk guns back in the '70's.
FotoTomas
August 10, 2005, 02:20 PM
My last contact with a 10-B was in 1985. The man who owns it still has it. Truly a weapon ahead of its time and the time is ripe for a new and improved comeback! :D
KarbineKrazy
August 12, 2005, 07:53 PM
Well, I found my dream 870 anyway and bought it!
police trade in wingmaster with 3 inch chamber, 20 inch barrel, rifle sights, 3 round ext, side saddle, police wood furniture. $220 off gun broker!
I didn't want the 3 inch chamber to shoot 3 inch buck shot out of it, but I just like knowing I can shoot pretty much whatever 12 gauge shells I have laying around the house through it. Know what I mean?
I keep low recoil winchester 00 buck and slugs in 2 3/4 inch for denfensive work...
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