N.C. law encourages guns for victims


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Rockrivr1
August 18, 2005, 02:21 PM
This would be interesting.


RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) -- North Carolina lawmakers have approved a measure that would require courts to give battered spouses something extra when they seek a restraining order - information on how to apply for a concealed weapon.

However, victim's advocates who support efforts to curb domestic violence said the measure could end up causing more problems by bringing guns into already volatile relationships.

"In my experience, if you've got a fire out there, I don't think you put it out by throwing gas on it," said Bart Rick, a Seattle-area sheriff who chairs the National Sheriffs' Association domestic violence committee. "When I read this ... I went 'Whoa.'"

The president of the gun-rights group that pushed for the measure said it's more about helping victims of domestic violence help themselves.

"We're not interested in them shooting their abusers," said Paul Valone, president of Grass Roots North Carolina. "We're interested in delivering a message: When police can't protect these people, they are capable of protecting themselves."

The measure becomes law Oct. 1 unless Gov. Mike Easley decides to veto it. His office declined Wednesday to comment on his plans.

The bill, which passed overwhelmingly in both houses of the legislature, would also add protective orders to the evidence a sheriff can consider when determining whether to issue an emergency permit to carry a concealed weapon. Normally, an applicant must wait 90 days for such a permit.

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cls12vg30
August 18, 2005, 03:04 PM
Yes being a member of GRNC I have been paying close attention to this bill. Several articles that have come out recently in the local media have really shined the light of hypocrisy on a few so-called women's advocacy groups. These people who are supposed to support abused women will then turn around and imply that they are too dumb and incompetent to be trusted to protect themselves with a firearm. And of course they start whining about the children who might be "caught in the crossfire" if a battered woman has to fire upon her abuser. Never mind the fact that abusive parents kill many times more children than are accidentally shot.

(BTW, there is NOTHING in this bill which removes the requirement for a CHL applicant to take a state-approved course and demonstrate competency with a firearm).

Hoplophobia can really skew a person's logic.

P95Carry
August 18, 2005, 03:06 PM
if you've got a fire out there, I don't think you put it out by throwing gas on it, Indeed - instead you need a useful means to extinguish it should it recur!!! Typical statement from a less than gun-keen cop.

In principle this is a good and fair measure - controllable should it be necessary by care with character assessment in case a lady is seriously calling for blood and demonstrably unstable!! And - simply remembering that your average lawful gun owner/carrier is NOT going to want to go shooting - with all that it can involve. It sure would not be a ''licence to go shootin'' as many would suggest.

Tropical Z
August 18, 2005, 03:16 PM
Good for them.I'm sure the antis will have a field day with this one.Anti's like Feinswine,Clinton and Schumer and all the websites that adore them would rather see vulnerable women end up in caskets.

mons meg
August 18, 2005, 04:39 PM
Yes, Mr. Seattle-area-sherriff, please inform us on what's good for North Carolina...

:rolleyes:

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