I really love the narrow grips of my Colt Gov't Mod .45ACP. I am now in the market for something in 9mm and I am looking for something that will fit my hand really well. The prob is that I don't have access to a wide variety firearms, so it is hard to gauge how they feel. I won't buy without at least handling a gun (would like to shoot it), but I am curious as to which guns have a nice narrow grip with a single stack mag.
I know the Beretta 92 Compact Type M does, and there are some 1911's in 9mm (looking for something that is DA/SA or a "safe action", but what else has a nice narrow grip? I am also partial to something with an external safety, however, I am very curious about the Kahr (are they single stack?).
Thanks for any comments or suggestions, but no lectures on magazine capacity usefullness please :rolleyes: .
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March 25, 2003, 01:21 AM
STI Trojan is a great single stack 9mm. It comes in a few other chamber'ns too.
Thing is accurate as hell.:what:
March 25, 2003, 01:29 AM
an original Smith & Wesson model 39-2!
a NIB SIG-Sauer P225.
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March 25, 2003, 01:35 AM
It was my understanding that any of the S&W pistols with a curved backstrap are single stacks.
The aforementioned STI Trojan would be nice. Springfield Loaded 9mm with adjustable sights. Walther P5. H&K P7M8, SIG P210 if you have some bucks.
The Hi Power and the CZ75B feel narrower than most double/stagger stacks.
March 25, 2003, 01:35 AM
Single stack 9mm? HK P7M8 :D
March 25, 2003, 01:45 AM
This list is about to get huge. Hicap 9mms are a more recent thing. 9mm was the world military standard since before WWI. Almost all 9mms made until recently were single stacks. Add to that the number of single stack versions of hicap guns and the list goes on, and on, and on.
The single stack 9mm is about the most common sidearm there is.
March 25, 2003, 01:47 AM
there's the star 9mm's that are going for low prices now (ie model b super). They have 1911 ergonomics.
The BDM is a double stack, at least that is what the MAG told me, handling it made me think it was a single stack.
March 25, 2003, 01:50 AM
SIG P239 is another good single stack option to consider along-side the P225.
March 25, 2003, 02:49 AM
Kahr is a single.
Luger and P-38 are single stack. I believe the HK P5 is also. Star Bs. 'Course they aren't new.
Lahti and, I believe, Radom, too.
March 25, 2003, 03:02 AM
Star Firestar of course (see my handle).
Yes all Kahr pistols are single stacks and they feel wonderful in the hand. You should check them out. The only gun I like better than the Firestar is the Kahr K-9.
I have a Sig225 and it's absolutely awesome. CZ75, although a double stack is a relatively slim grip for me.
March 25, 2003, 04:52 AM
i second the Kahr T9, or perhaps a K9
March 25, 2003, 07:11 AM
Smith & Wesson 39, 39-2, 439/539/639, the 3900 series, or 908. I carry a 439 daily, it is accurate, reliable, easy to shoot, and comfortable to carry. I understand the 3900 series are even better, I presume the 908 would be great too, since it is a third generation pistol, just not as nicely finished.
March 25, 2003, 08:09 AM
The S&W 908 is great....small, thin and short grip, lightweight, good sights, and relatively inexpensive. Not as nicely finished as a 3913, but just as capable, since it's essentially the same gun in a no-frills version.
Currently available new single-stack 9mm pistols other than the 908 are the S&W 3913, HK P7M8, SIG P239, and Springfield 1911A1 Loaded.
March 25, 2003, 03:01 PM
I have pretty much heard of most of those guns, but was just curious as to what people had. Do the S&W 5900 series have a single stack? They are a 10+1, but have a 4" barel. I am looking for a duty type gun that has around a 4" barel. The Kahr T9 looks tempting, but I am a little uneasy about the 'safe action' and the if the trigger is anything like a glock, I won't like it so much. I kind of got spoiled with my 1991A1, but I want something that is DA/SA in 9mm. Thanks again for the replies and keep the recomendations coming. Also looking for something under $650.
March 25, 2003, 03:38 PM
Sig 225, a beautiful weapon. :D
March 25, 2003, 04:59 PM
S&W 3913 is single stack.
March 25, 2003, 05:16 PM
The original and best DA 9mm single stack. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Walther P38!! Currently available in it's P1 configuration for a fairly decent price!!! :D
March 25, 2003, 06:10 PM
Try a 3913 with Hogue grips and night sights and your good to go. Nice an skinny, and you get 8+ 1.
March 25, 2003, 09:17 PM
I traded for a M43 Firestar the other day and it is a SS and fun also will feed anything.
March 25, 2003, 10:03 PM
The Sig 210 is pretty dang sweet. If I were you, I would go down and ask Les about the Sig 225. He has had some in at very good prices in the past.
March 25, 2003, 10:41 PM
single stack 7/8 round magazine, and the gun is 1.2" wide with a empty weight of 25.2 oz..If ccw is a prioritiy don't buy anything else until you check it out..also,if you have average to small hands, I think you will really appreciate the feel.. good luck...
March 25, 2003, 10:48 PM
I'd vote for SIG P225 or P220 (Euro or American release) -- single stack + decocking lever; SIG P210-6 - single stack SA.
P210-6 Heavy Frame, Adjustable Sights
March 26, 2003, 12:26 AM
The Smith & Wesson 3913TSW is single stack ...
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March 26, 2003, 12:42 AM
I'll throw my hat into the ring for the Sig 239. My 9mm had the best single action trigger I've ever felt on a DA/SA pistol. I regretted selling it so much that I eventually bought another one in .40.
March 26, 2003, 01:31 AM
I have a Sig 239, like it a bunch; another one I've got on my must have list is the P7M8. Would really like to handle an STI LS, seems a nice alternative to the Sig. But, they are not available in my "zone".:rolleyes:
March 26, 2003, 03:02 AM
QB what did you do to that top 225? looks like it had the hook removed.
As everyone is telling you there are lots of good single stacked 9mm out there. And some are going to disagree with this but I think the P7 is your best bet. I have a Sig 225, a STI LS and a P7M8 I also had a Kahr K9 plus my friend had a Springfield compact 9mm. P7 will save you money in the long run because you won't want anything else. Compact, 4"bbl fast accurate. It is like owning a BMW it will spoil you to everything else. ;)
Walther P5 or Compact
Walther P38 or P1
March 29, 2003, 12:03 AM
faustulus -- sorry to show my ignorance but what is a "hook"? The gun was bought new and came in a blue hard case. My pictures are normally poor quality but if you tell me what part of the gun you're asking about I can take a better picture of it.
March 30, 2003, 07:09 AM
Probably not ignorance on your part but poor communication skills on mine. The trigger guard on 225s are square with a "hook" that curves out toward the barrel. Your's looks rounded, I can't tell if it is pushed in the carpet or if it was removed.
I had a Sig 220 in 38 super that had the trigger guard rounded.
Isn't that a phaser in your pic? That's less than single stack, fer sure!
March 30, 2003, 12:17 PM
The original post mentions a desire for a gun that feels good in the hand and is as thin as a 1911 through the grip. No problem and it`s not necessary to go to single stack. My CZ-75B with Hogue cocobolo grips is actually *thinner* through the grip than any 1911 with factory grips that I`ve measured (with dial calipers)! Hi Power with Spegel grips I`d guess would be also. I know it`s a pretty radical concept but actually measuring things can yield some suprising results. ;) As for grip feel,it`s been argued with some merit that the HiPower and CZ-75 have the best feel of any service sized autos bar none. A good friend who bought a CZ after trying mine says it feels better than sex! I dunno if I`d go that far but it`s still pretty good. :) Marcus
March 30, 2003, 12:54 PM
While I will take into account your CZ-75 grip testimony, I have shot a friends CZ75 PRC (compact), and while I shot it well and the recoil was very managible, it still ''felt'' (subjective) fatter to me in my hand. I didn't wear it in a belt holster, so I don't know how it conceils. The whole purpose for me looking for a single stack is to fine a nice lightweight 9mm that I can carry IWB when I don't feel like carrying my Colt 1991A1 in my Don Hume JIT holster. I will check out the CZ again, but right now I am leaning towards the Sig 225, Sig 239, and S&W 3913 (or 3913TSW). Thanks for all the replies.
March 30, 2003, 01:09 PM
faustulus -- you're right....it is just hidden in the picture...I need to re-take the picture. Didn't notice that....it does look odd.
Here's one that shows the trigger guard correctly.