Anyone seen my keys?


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MudPuppy
August 22, 2005, 06:19 PM
For my, um, trigger lock. Anyone lost their keys? :banghead:

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angrywalkindude
August 22, 2005, 06:27 PM
I didn't lose my keys, I just hid them too good. :D

armoredman
August 22, 2005, 06:41 PM
Keys? Oh, yeah, you're supposed to LOCK the things....gotcha....

R.H. Lee
August 22, 2005, 06:42 PM
They're still in the unopened packages with the triggerlocks.

sumpnz
August 22, 2005, 06:43 PM
They're still in the unopened packages with the triggerlocks. +1

jojosdad
August 22, 2005, 06:46 PM
They're still in the unopened packages with the triggerlocks.
Which are back on the shelf at the store after being returned. The law only wants proof of purchase; doesn't say you have to keep the stupid things (yet).

DelayedReaction
August 22, 2005, 07:09 PM
Hrm. Well, both the key and the lock to my 1911 are missing (ILS = Immediately Lost Somehow). As for the Ruger, it's a nice little padlock that I'll be using for something else as soon as I figure out what.

scout26
August 22, 2005, 07:15 PM
I use combination cable locks. Hard to lose the "key" (combination) for those.

I have young kids, and they have friends that come over to the house. My kids (11 and 4) know The Four Rules plus Rule Zero "You don't touch a gun unless Mom or Dad say that you can." However, since I live in Blissninnyland (Suburbs of Chicago), not many kids know anything about guns, so I don't take chances. Guns are kept in the safe and all except the HD shottie have combination cable locks on them.

Preacherman
August 22, 2005, 07:22 PM
Scout, you keep locks on your guns while the guns are in the safe??? :confused:

Can't see the point in that... if they're in the safe, surely they don't need any other sort of lock?

Azrael256
August 22, 2005, 07:26 PM
I had that happen once. Dad and I were going dove hunting, and I couldn't find the key for that blasted cable lock that comes with Mossbergs. A solid pair of wire cutters dealt with that in short order. Haven't used a gun lock since.

scout26
August 22, 2005, 07:56 PM
Preacherman,

I have double barrier security. (When I was in the army, the Physical Security Regs called for triple barrier security, but I'm not that anal. :D )

Yep, They come out of the safe and into the gun case pre-locked. After shooting at the range the locks go back on. Only time they're unlocked is when they are being shot or cleaned.

We often have a friend or two of my daughter join us on our weekly range trip to my club (aka "The Range"). My son's only four, so his friends are just a little too young to join us.......yet.

That way when I'm running around trying to get everyone organzied for , (Got water bottles and snacks in the cooler ?? Are we bringing the dog ?? Honey, did you grab his water dish ?? How many boxes of clays do we need ?? Dear, what ammo do you want me to bring for you ?? Meghan are you going to shoot skeet with us or just trap ??? What about your friend ?? do they want to try trap and skeet ??? Do we have enought ballons for the .22's or do we need to stop at Wal-mart. etc, etc.), they are still secure as they sit in the hallway. The guns are the last thing loaded in the car, because I don't like the idea of them being in the car "unsecured."

Case in point: see post #31:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=146765

chris in va
August 22, 2005, 07:58 PM
How about getting to the range an hour from your house only to find the carbine has a lock and you don't have the key. :cuss:

Ringer
August 22, 2005, 08:07 PM
I made a gentleman's day once as he was walking down the firing line asking for anyone with a Remington J lock key. I found one in my range bag. Funny thing is I have never locked a shotgun or rifle with one and didn't have a Remington with me that day.

As far as unopened cable/trigger locks I think I could go into business. Just about every time I take a handgun in for a safety inspection cough - registration - cough (Michigan thing) the officer will ask how many guns I own. I'll mumble something like "I dunno, 10 or 12" and he will hand me 4 or 5 locks with my handgun. I just smile and say "thanks".

Byron Quick
August 22, 2005, 08:14 PM
I don't have kids but I could see the utility of double security if I did.

I have to do things by drill. Nothing new from age. I've always been absentminded as to what is where.

My carry gun goes here when it's not on my hip. My truck gun is in the console. Rifle's in the toolbox.


I misplaced my keys a few weeks ago. Tooks me days to find them. I still think that someone put them in the glovebox for I never put them there. If I hadn't opened the glovebox looking for something else...I'd still be wondering where the keys were.

dasmi
August 22, 2005, 08:16 PM
They're still in the unopened packages with the triggerlocks.
Ding ding ding.

MudPuppy
August 22, 2005, 08:21 PM
Yeah, I usually take different precautions and the kids are familiar/respectful/"not in awe of the mysterious destructive toy they may never look upon, nor touch". I do have a 3 year old that gets into cookies when he's not supposed to and don't put it past him to get the AR to pull an oreo heist--hence the trigger lock. Actually, I put it on an old enfield as a lark/just "to see". Cool thing about an old boltie like that is that it's still reasonable home protection even with the trigger lock. :neener:

Wonder if I could shoot it out with the K-31? :D

Cacique500
August 22, 2005, 08:31 PM
How about getting to the range an hour from your house only to find the carbine has a lock and you don't have the key.

Ugh...I did that with a new shotgun...didn't even KNOW that it had a lock on it (Remington). I guess I should've brought that little green thingy to the range with me... :banghead:

PCGS65
August 22, 2005, 08:39 PM
I keep my guns in a locked closet. With kids in the house there's obviously more need for security. When my son was very young I simply gave my guns to my brother for a few years. The way I see it is what good is a gun cabinet with a glass door? or a gun cabinet one or two people can carry away? a gun safe yes too heavy to carry. There's only so much you can do. Even trigger locks can be drilled out. Good topic

CB900F
August 22, 2005, 08:43 PM
Fella's;

If you'd just do as I do, none of you would have these problems :D.

But then, I am a professional locksmith :evil: .

900F

coonan357
August 22, 2005, 09:40 PM
I checked all the keys to my locks and found out there are only several ones need (except the masterlocks ) I always keep spares in my truck , and wallet hey who know when I'm going shooting . Btw it helps to buy the cheap locks in bulk so that way you shooting buddies also have the keys too . :p if they can get past the safe door I am sure they can remove my triggerlocks . :cuss:

did you look in your grandpas battle of verdun uniform ?? (George Carlin ) :neener:

Double Naught Spy
August 22, 2005, 09:57 PM
Mudpuppy, my wife (whom I call when I lose my keys) said to check your coat pockets....yes, even though it is summer (or maybe vest pockets).

Check the couch and lazyboy cushions
Check the crisper in the refriderator

Oh, and are they with the guns?

- In my college days, I drank a bit. When drinking, I tended to put a lot of things in my 'fridge at the end of the evening. For some reason, I would put the TV remote in the crisper.

armedandsafe
August 22, 2005, 10:04 PM
I always put valuable things in a safe place. My problem is, someone always sneaks in behind me and moves my safe place!
:banghead: :D

Pops

MudPuppy
August 22, 2005, 10:42 PM
Coat pockets is a good suggestion (its been a long while)--much better advice than what my wife gave me.

"Where's the last place you had them?"

waterhouse
August 22, 2005, 11:41 PM
So long as you don't intend to use them to commit a crime, I'm pretty sure it's legal to own a set of lock picks in Texas. They are handy in all sorts of fun ways, and it's a fun hobby as well. That being said, if you get desperate (check your range bag) and don't want to cut it off stop by sometime and I can probably remedy the situation.

GigaBuist
August 22, 2005, 11:49 PM
A while ago I bought a lock picking kit and read up on the subject slightly. That'll open your eyes. I'm a complete novice to the "sport" of it all, but gun locks are very very easy to pick. You just set up the torsion wrench and rake the thing. At worst it'll take me 2 minutes to do one, and that's if I screw up a lot. When I got my Marlin 1894 I had a buddy over with me from the gun show and rather than try and thread the keys off the locked padlock I just popped it with my pick kit to his surprise. Took about 20 seconds.

Learning the basics will let you pop a pad lock or gun lock pretty quick. I no longer worry about loosing keys to such devices; not that I use any gun locks. I did once -- scared me because I couldn't find the key.

MikeIsaj
August 24, 2005, 09:40 AM
Im not a locksmith, but I am a volunteer firefighter with a skill in forcible entry. The difference is when the locksmith is done, you can still use the lock.

The important thing is not damaging the weapon. Extra care in blocking the lock is needed to ensure any force applied is not transferred to the weapon. After that a screwdriver close to the size of the key slot and a hammer is needed. Force the screwdriver into the slot and turn. You'll be surprized how easy it is.

cracked butt
August 24, 2005, 10:33 AM
They're still in the unopened packages with the triggerlocks.
LOL. So true :D

MrTuffPaws
August 24, 2005, 11:38 AM
Here in CA, we get to buy a cable lock if the gun does not have an internal lock. I have so many, that maybe come Christmas, I will decorate the tree with cable locks only. :D

MikeIsaj
August 24, 2005, 01:12 PM
Here in CA, we get to buy a cable lock if the gun does not have an internal lock.In Pa. the state reps all have boxes of them to give away. They make good gate locks and I've seen them holding bike seats to the frames.

Gump
August 24, 2005, 01:16 PM
In Pa. the state reps all have boxes of them to give away. They make good gate locks and I've seen them holding bike seats to the frames.


They make nice dog collars too

scout26
August 24, 2005, 03:07 PM
Here's why I do not use trigger locks. I use cable locks that go through the action.

This is from fellow THR member, ctdonath website. (Lots more good stuff there.)

On Trigger Locks (http://www.donath.org/Rants/OnTriggerLocks/)

MudPuppy
August 24, 2005, 08:36 PM
Thanks for the offer Adrien. I need to order a new firearm anyway. :)

A friend at work has some working knowledge of picks and has a set--I'll see if that does the trick.

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