[Anthony]

Are there any high quality scope mounts for the Glock series of pistols that DO NOT use the accessory rail as a mounting component?

The mount is for a Glock 17L and I am not opposed to options that require gunsmithing.

Thank you for the input.

[Rockstar]

Anthony: There probably are some that require gunsmithing. The models that I've tried that feature legs that extend to the rear (trigger housing) pin are worthless. The legs grossly bite into my hand.

You could try Brownell's or call Bobby Carver. While his mounts won't fit, he might refer you to another manufacturer.

[Graystar]

It it's a red-dot sight you're looking to install, both Doctor and Tasco make Glock mounts for their red dot sights.


I'm surprised that no one has thought to create a rail that attaches to the rear dovetail in the normal fashion, but also gets screwed down up front like a Heinie front sight. I bet you can even make something like that with some parts from Brownells.

Good luck!

[Rockstar]

I like Graystar's idea! You'd probably have to use a beefier front screw than you get with the various Glock front sights. Having come to my senses, I realize why one wouldn't want such a mount. :o

[Graystar]

realize why one wouldn't want such a mount.Why?

[Rockstar]

Just my thoughts, because I believe that the concept is technically sound, in that such a mount could be solidly attached as you describe. Smaller, shock-resistant opticals, such as the Docter sight, already mount to the dovetail.

I don't think optics such as the Aimpoint tube, Pro Point, etc., would stand up too well or work as well, if mounted directly to a rail attached to the slide. Come to think of it, the only secure method I could think for the front of the rail would be to use a threaded tenon, such as are used on Heinie's, etc. However, how would you install the rail with a tenon protruding from the bottom front of the rail?

[Graystar]

I don't think optics such as the Aimpoint tube, Pro Point, etc., would stand up too well or work as well, if mounted directly to a rail attached to the slide.Yeah, that's always the first thought, but Brownells list one or two varieties fitted for 1911 slides so *something* must be out there that can withstand the shock.


I could think for the front of the rail would be to use a threaded tenon, such as are used on Heinie's, etc. However, how would you install the rail with a tenon protruding from the bottom front of the rail?If the dovetail pin is part of the rail, then I was thinking to use a front-sight type of bolt, where the diameter matches the width of the cutout, could protrude up into the rail and a nut would screw it down. Or you can get fancy and make it a stainless steel pin the same shape as the cutout in the slide, and have flats for set screws that come in from the sides of the rails.

For the rear I actually thought of a detached dovetail pin with two set screws. You can either slide the assembly onto the Glock slide, or simply slide the pin in place and screw the rail to it (in case the front does have some kind of protruding design.) Tightening the set screws would draw the dovetail pin to the rail, locking it in place.

I think there are lots of ways to make it work. But I do agree that the choices of optics is severely limited.