[ccw007]

I am not wanting Glock vs Sig war. But it seems like I see very little bad said about Sigs. Their prices for a new one seems a little pricy in comparison to other makers. I really like the way they look but have never shot one or really held one. I find myself wanting one with a light rail for home protection. My desire is growing and you can get them used at a fair price. So my question is what do you love about your Sig or hate about it? I am thinking I would more than likely go with the 229 if I was to buy one. Are they tack drivers or just okay for accuracy?

[1911Tuner]

Howdy lad!

Sig makes a good pistol. I don't own one, but have handled and fired a few.
Doesn't feel just right to me, but that's because my hand is permanently molded into the grip frame of a 1911...Not exactly what I'd call tack-drivers, but not too shabby. Fully up to any reasonable requirement and more accurate than I can prove offhand.

[ccw007]

Hey Tuner,

Are you going to the Greensboro show this weekend? I have never really thought about a Sig until a couple of weeks ago. I think I have the "I do not have one or have never had one, so I need one" bug. I am going to head out to the Greensboro Gun show this weekend and fondle one. I will not be able to buy anytime soon because may wife and I are dumping all of our extra money on home improvements right now :cuss:. I think it is the light rail that has got me hooked and they do have them on 1911's too maybe I NEED both :D

[waterhouse]

I like the fact that they fit my hand better than most other pistols, and that I've never had a reliability problem with any of mine, and I've owned quite a few. I used to carry a 225, but have since swiched to either 1911s or HK p7s because they are a little easier for me to carry and I tend to have a much higher first shot hit percentage with those, but I still love shooting my 220, 226, 228 and 228.

Also, with the flood of police trade ins used ones can be had at a very reasonable price.

[Tom Servo]

This is going to be a looonnnngggg thread in a few hours :)

For combat pistols, they're the best thing going. You'll hear alot about "out of the box" reliability and accuracy, and it's all true. I have had six, and out of those six (~22,000 rounds fired over the years), I've had EIGHT malfunctions that I can recall. None were repeatable, and my guess is that most were due to bad ammo. You can fire whatever you want and a Sig will eat it and ask for more. The only wear issue I've ever had is with recoil springs, which are a cheap and easily replaceable part. Break-in is really a non-issue. You'll find very few "my Sig won't feed" threads out there :)

Ergonomics are outstanding, and once you get used to the feel of the gun (you do have to grip them a bit high), you'll find that it's quite the tack driver. The P210 is the holy grail of Sig pistols for target shooting, but it's very expensive and hard to find. However, the P220 is pretty much the standard-bearer for the line, and it's a hard gun to beat in terms of accuracy. It's been called the "thinking man's .45," and mine, with over 12,000 rounds through, shoots as well in my hands as any high-end 1911. Even the compacts are more accurate than most people can shoot. I currently carry a "chopped" version (the P245), and I can't distinguish any difference in accuracy between it and the full-size model.

As far as safety, the Sig is a DA/SA with a decocker and no other safety. IMO, this is the most intuitive way to carry a gun. No switch to remember, just draw and shoot. Unlike the Gl*ck, the DA trigger isn't so light as to risk an ND through slighly careless handling, but it's about the smoothest DA trigger you'll ever shoot outside a well-tuned wheelgun (average is about 10lbs). SA is tight and crisp, usually 3.5-4.5lbs.

Downside? Well, they reek of grim Teutonic efficiency, and there's nothing too "bling" about them, but they're certainly prettier than alot of guns out there, and for me, they're gorgeous in their simplicity. There's not much in the way of aftermarket mods like on the 1911, but then there's probably not much you'd WANT to do to a Sig, besides different sights or grips.

In terms of a reliable, safe, accurate and easy-to-operate combat handgun, the Sig is pretty much unbeatable. Check out Sigforum (http://sigforum.com).

[HighVelocity]

I find them to be exceptionally accurate, ergonomically excellent and as reliable as any mechanical device could possibly be. Recently I was shooting my 229 at the range and a few stalls down another guy was shooting a Beretta 92. After the second mag through the Sig I realized that I was the only one shooting so I thought I was alone. When I finished a few more mags full I here "damn". I look over and the guy I thought was gone had just been standing there in the stall watching me put a box of ammo in a ragged hole. :D How could you not love that?

[longhorngunman]

They are just a terrifically made gun, plain and simple. I have a 228 9mm and a 226 in .357sig and I love em. Also have two GLocks, I like both brands very much. I use a Glock G23 for CCW though, just because I don't mind letting the Glock get dinged up while some may disagree I think Sigs are very pretty guns and would hate to have mine muffed up much. I think both brands are just about as good as your gonna get when it comes to reliability. :)

[Black Majik]

SIGs, why are they so popular. Well simply because they make great pistols that are very ergonomical, and fit many people's hands. Myself personally... it was love at first shot when I went to shoot a G17 and a Sig P226 side by side. This was before I knew anything about firearms, and I was really impresed by the P226. The SA trigger was amazingly smooth. The controls were easily reachable, and the slide stop was easily engaged instead of the really flat slide stop of the Glocks (Yes at the range I use the slide stop to release the slide to chamber the round. At least I said slide stop instead of slide release :D ) Anyways sorry for comparing it to a Glock, which its nothing similar.

The Glock holds many qualites of other firearms, all into one package. Reliability, looks, ergonomics, accuracy, durability, and SMOOOTHNESS! CCW007, honestly, you said you're not sure why SIG Sauers are all that, yet you've not held nor shot one. Best thing to do is to shoot one at the local range and decide for yourself whether the hype of these pistols are true. Hype comes for a reason, because there are so many devoted SIG shooters out there. You ever hear hype coming from Jennings or Raven owners? I certainly hope not! :p

Other than the 1911, the SIG is my next favorite platform, and its a great pistol IMO. The lightweight aluminum alloy frame or a Stainess steel frame, your choice. So its designed to be either carried or a great range/competition gun w. the weight to reduce recoil.

Simply try it out. :)

[DAVE RICHARDS]

I can't add to much to what the other threads have said. They feel great in my hand, never had any of my Sigs not work each and everytime, and tack driving accuracy. Excellent trigger pull in both DA and SA right from the box. And I have a two tone Nickel 220 that is just beautiful. In both form and function. We all know SpecOps groups all over the world and here at home use them. All manner of Federal, State, and local LEO groups use them. I guess it's just that I have total security in my belief that if I pull the trigger on any of my Sigs they will shoot under any conditions and the bullet will go where I aim it. Do I have other guns I feel the same way about? Yes. But with Sig everyone I've owned has met these
expectations right out of the box each and every time. Doesn't seem to matter what bullet weight you use in whatever caliber either. Same wonderfully boring results!

[Zach S]

One day at the range I heard someone say that "To hell and back reliability isnt a slogan, its a reputation."

[1 old 0311]

From what I remember Sig won the Military tests when they got away from the .45. They kicked ass. They did not get the contract because at the time the military wanted ALL the pistols made here. Sig turned it down.

Kevin

[Peter M. Eick]

Why are they loved?

Pick up any of the 210 series and take one apart. Feel the finish, the polish the tightness of the workmanship. Become one with the quality of the interior finish and workmanship. Soak in the excellent polish on the inside of the frame and the slide.

Now put it back together and go to the range.

Pick a reasonable target like a clay pigeon at 50 yards. If you can't hit it, its your fault. The gun is more than accurate enough!



That is why they are loved. Great quality, excellent workmanship, astonishing accuracy.

[KurtC]

I've noticed that every decade or so the popularity changes.

In the '70s, Colt and S&W were the big names in autos.
In the '80s, it was Beretta when the military adopted the 92. Colt lost favor by switching to 80 series.
In the '90s, it started out with S&W, then slowly shifted to Glock as more and more Departments took advantage of their low prices.
Now it is Sig's turn in the limelight.

To Sig's credit, they have been slowly improving their handguns over the years to the point where folks are starting to take notice. While this quality comes with a higher price tag, the post 9/11 market doesn't mind paying it.
The pre-9/11 market was content with low cost Glocks. HK's are expensive and have a very limited market. S&W quality peaked in the early 90's, and achieving that same level now in an auto comes at a PC price tag that is even higher than Sig's.


Bottom line: Colt, S&W and Beretta reached their peak in quality some years ago, and now have become mundane. Glock will always be around as a decent gun for organizations on budget. Sig is still on the way up, and will probably reach their peak potential in about 5 years.

[Warner]

In this modern era, a whole lotta people say,

"If they'd make 'em right to begin with, I wouldn't mind paying a few extra bucks".

That's exactly where Sigs fit in.

W

[enfield]

They go bang every time.

They're stainless with a black finish - no rust, no glare.

They don't have ANY safeties.

They're not plastic.

They have the decocker where I can reach it with an arthritic thumb.

They take down easier than a Smith.

They're double action.

They're pretty.

They're Evil Black Pistols.

[shield20]

I think the Sig was always a great choice, but I always seemed to end up with a Beretta. Just something about the feel of the Sig (not in my hand - just something about the hammer fall when trying them - didn't seem as solid???).

Anyway, more and more I am thinking a Sig will be my next purchase - they do one thing that Beretta hasn't - offer a wide selection of great models and features.

Question: is the SA mode of their DA/SA long and 'sloppy' like the Beretta, or do the triggers set back some - more "on the edge" of firing? Would a DOA be a better choice? Thinking of a comparatively compact .40.

[95flhr]

I own six Sigs now. A p239 in .40, a 229 in .40 and another in .357, a Trailside, a 220, and a 226. They just seem to fit my hand extremely well, they wil shoot anything I feed them, the quality is great, customer service is great if ever needed, and they shoot better than I do. What's not to like, as said in a previous post, they make me look good when at the range.

[GunGoBoom]

I like Sigs quite a bit - I just can't decide whether to buy a 226ST or a CZ 75 SP01 Tactical for my home defense pistol. The latter holds 18+1 in standard mags, is super accurate (legendary CZ accuracy), and is less money by a wide margin. Still, the 226 beckons me..... I don't really have to decide for sure until some distributor actually HAS an SP01 on tap - then I'll have to decide.

[Cueball]

Much has been said already in this thread, but I feel I must chime in as well. I've had, handled, and shot many Sigs. Currently I only own a P230 stainless, but I can say that they are consistent about one thing in all their models... Their consistency. They are consistent in superior engineering and design, manufacturing quality, and they just feel good. Out of many weapons and rounds fired over the years, I've only had one misfeed and I believe that to be from cheap ammo.

I say go for the Sig, you can't go wrong! :D

[Edmond]

They're great guns. Yes, the new ones are quite pricey but there are many places to buy Certified Pre Owned (CPO) Sigs. One such place is Ordnance Outsellers. I bought one from James there and it was almost new. There was a small amount of holster wear. Everything else looked brand new.

As for Sigs, they're excellent pistols. They're easy to field strip, they feel good in your hand and I love the SA on it. The decocker works as advertised. It's just a very good feeling pistol. It might be on the heavier side but I feel that being heavier adds balance to the gun and it helps with recoil.

[phantomak47]

I am just thankful I went with my sig 226 instead of a p99.......Compare a sig to just about anyother gun and you will see why.

[Big Bad Wolf]

In this modern era, a whole lotta people say,

"If they'd make 'em right to begin with, I wouldn't mind paying a few extra bucks".

That's exactly where Sigs fit in.

That is the best most simple way to some it up right there.

[Dienekes]

I took the SIG armorer's course about 15 years ago. I have a lot of respect for them but stayed with my wheelgun until retirement. My 220 is essentially a safe queen and I never was able to come close to real proficiency with it. It's about 10% too big for my hand with a high bore axis. Modified it to a short trigger before SIG made them but the DA is hardly comparable to a good revolver which is my idea of DA. Ran it as a DAO for a while but not too helpful. OTOH a good friend took his to Gunsite and got an E ticket in the 250 class which surprised everyone including Jeff Cooper.

Personally I prefer a good 1911 and find it much easier to shoot well. Lets face it--the whole idea behind DA autos was the strong reluctance of public agencies to countenance SA pistols in the hands of the troops. Realistically speaking they probably had to take that road but in a perfect world we'd be better off without the DA auto.

The 220 is a good gun but it's not a good gun for me. However Ed Mireles of the FBI Miami shootout went to one and that is one hell of an endorsement...

[gc70]

Sigs are well-made guns and their prices are not too high in relation to their quality.

If I'm not shooting a 1911, you'll probably find me shooting a Sig.

[nero45acp]

"Why are Sigs so loved?"

Because they made the P225.



nero

[Old Dog]

Nothing new to add really, but notice how many people mention the ergonomic factor? In my opinion, it's simply that, for some people, SIGs fit their hands perfectly. If you're one of those folks, then you know the answer to the question. My 226 fits my hand better than any pistol (even my beloved 1911s). As stated by many: quality, reliability, consistency.

I've taken a few shooters out whose only semiauto experience was with Glocks and afterwards, had them say, after shooting my SIGs, "I want one of these."

[fedlaw]

This Wiley Clapp 10,000 rd. test tells the tale:

http://www.galleryofguns.com/shootingtimes/Articles/DisplayArticles.asp?ID=1230

Unfortunately, full-size SIG ergo's don't work for me. Fortunately, there was JMB.

[todd-45]

Ironically enough I just came in from shooting my 229. I have two Sigs, a 229, 9mm and a pro 2340, .357. Of the two the 229 is my favorite and my carry gun. The grips differ with the 229 being most comfortable. The 229 is also easier to take down. However I love the 2340 better than any Glock or S&W. The only other one I own that compares is a SA 1911. I have an XD that is probably as good but it's not as comfortable. My Ruger 345 is comfortable but a little bigger gun than the 229.
Basically, you can't beat a Sig !!

[GunnySkox]

I know this is slightly off-topic, but it does concern SIG as a company, so here goes:

Doesn't SIG have a factory in the US under the name SIGArms?

If there is a factory there, is there a possibility they could ever manufacture the PE-90/Semiauto SIG-550 at that factory? I always hear that they can't import them because of the (expletives deleted) Import Ban, so could they possibly build them here?

~Slam_Fire