Has Andy Rooney just really cracked?


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Drizzt
March 25, 2003, 05:17 PM
The Times Union (Albany, NY)

March 22, 2003 Saturday THREE STAR EDITION

SECTION: MAIN, Pg. A10

LENGTH: 567 words

HEADLINE: War through the ages

BYLINE: Andy Rooney

BODY:
It is far from certain that we won't end up destroying all life on Earth. Every war produces new weapons that come closer. The fact that it hasn't happened doesn't mean it won't. Armageddon could be just around the corner now. I'm nervous.

The earliest warriors went at each other with clubs. They would have been alarmed if they'd heard about David using a new weapon -- the slingshot -- to kill Goliath at a distance.

For thousands of years, men killed each other with spears and swords. The disadvantage was that warriors had to get close to their enemies to use them.

When they started riding horses into battle, soldiers covered with armor and using spears had the advantage over soldiers on foot.

When the Carthaginians invaded Iberia on elephants, Iberians must have thought they had met the ultimate weapon.

The bow and arrow was the favorite of medieval times, although men were still killing each other with them in our Colonial times, long after they had guns.

After all the years and all the mechanical devices invented for the men of one army to kill the men of another, the foot soldier remains dominant in war. It always seems as though technology has taken over and wars will be fought by machines, but that hasn't happened.

A few weapons have changed the course of wars. War hasn't been the same since gunpowder was invented. There's an argument over whether it was the brainchild of the Chinese or an Englishman named Roger Bacon. I'm not terribly interested who came up with it, but gunpowder changed war for good -- by which I mean bad. A soldier packed the explosive powder in one end of a tube, stuffed a metal ball down the front of the tube, then lit the powder behind the ball to blow it out to strike a target. The first move to make cannons more lethal was to cut the metal ball in half, pack it with powder, then put the ball back together so it exploded when it hit a target.

Along the way, someone discovered that a projectile flew faster and more accurately if it was revolving, so they invented rifling -- cutting spiral grooves in gun and cannon barrels. Many of the men who died in our Civil War were killed by a rifle bullet. I suppose, as a way of dying, it was an improvement over being pierced by an arrow, stabbed with a sword or trampled by an elephant.

Hand-held muskets, pistols or handguns, have been more popular murder weapons at peace than at war. Killing an enemy one at a time is inefficient.

The first use of chemical weapons came in World War I, when phosgene, chlorine and mustard gas were used. They were effective but bad weapons because you could not control where the gas drifted.

Tanks and airplanes were threats in World War I that didn't materialize as serious weapons until the next war. Tanks never worked because foot soldiers learned they could stop one in its tracks and cremate its occupants by throwing a bottle filled with gasoline wrapped in a flaming rag at the vehicle.

The United States used what is so far the most effective death-dealing weapon when we dropped two atomic bombs and killed 100,000 Japanese people in 1945.

The future may belong to the country that can contrive a device that combines the destructive force of a nuclear bomb with the lethal capacity of anthrax and attach it to a long-range rocket.

If the United States is hit by such a weapon, will the Americans left alive re-elect Bush?
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How does that last sentence have anything at all to do with the rest of the article? What point was he trying to make?

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Nathaniel Firethorn
March 25, 2003, 05:32 PM
If the United States is hit by such a weapon, will the Americans left alive re-elect Bush?Probably not. If the USA is hit by an anthrax nuke, Bush should get voted out for allowing PRNJ to build it in the first place.

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Peetmoss
March 25, 2003, 06:49 PM
Wouldn't the heat from the detenation of a nuclear deviece kill off the Anthrax? I think so, unless it was a dirty bomb.

Pendragon
March 25, 2003, 07:01 PM
The part of man that makes him an efficient killer is also what allows us to have civilization.

Only in the mind of a simplistic liberal like Loony Roony can you have one without the other.

Technology is the only thing that has given the smart an edge against the strong. Without the advancement in weaponry, the world would be ruled by brute physical strength.

Make no mistake, the worls is still ruled by might, but the great thinkers who built this country and the people who make the economy work are the ones that contribute the money and the brain power to allow us to pick exactly which buildings we want to destroy.

No despotic country could ever afford to use so many million and multi million dollar weapons. We do so at our own expense for the sole benefit of the citizens of Iraq.

Our might, is a product of our economy and our technology - which spring from our freedom.

Go to bed old man.



:cuss:

ACP230
March 25, 2003, 07:10 PM
Yes he has.

It happened about 20 years ago.

I wrote something in which he came up and called him, "Andy Rooney, that antiquated public scold."

CZ 75 BD
March 25, 2003, 07:12 PM
I will give Mr. Rooney the respect and thanks he deserves for his service to our country during WW2. But moving on, he is a complete nut case.

pax
March 25, 2003, 07:14 PM
His point?

"The sky is falling."

And this thread belongs in L&P

pax

Stimson, what was gunpowder? Trivial. What was electricity? Meaningless. This atomic bomb is the Second Coming in Wrath. -- Winston Churchill

El Tejon
March 25, 2003, 07:21 PM
Ah, brasshopper, answer me this, what is the sound of one liberal bleating?

jmbg29
March 25, 2003, 07:24 PM
El Tejon :D

Don Gwinn
March 25, 2003, 07:47 PM
I'm pretty sure his history of warfare is a little scrambled, too. Spears and armor were invented for use by horsemen to ride down infantry? The bow and arrow was the favorite weapon of the medieval period?

Sean Smith
March 25, 2003, 08:25 PM
He was a fine man. But his brain has melted.

gburner
March 25, 2003, 09:28 PM
The iron stirrup was the greatest invention separating horsemen from infantry. It allowed the horseman to free his hands to fire a weapon from the saddle.

BTW...somebody needs to shack Andy up
with Helen Thomas in a little love shack in Boca Raton.:o

El Tejon
March 25, 2003, 09:38 PM
gburner, we can't do THAT to the good people of Floriduh! How about a lovely, stylish townhouse (yeah, know, brick with the little iron fence around it) in downtown Kabul instead?

Smoke
March 25, 2003, 09:42 PM
gburner,

So how do you explain the Plains Indians? When they got horses, they became the finest light cavalry the world had ever seen. And not an iron stirrup to be found.:)

Nathaniel Firethorn
March 25, 2003, 09:47 PM
Wouldn't the heat from the detenation of a nuclear deviece kill off the Anthrax? I think so, unless it was a dirty bomb. That, ah say that, is called SAHcasm, son. :D

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gburner
March 25, 2003, 09:48 PM
Smoke,

Small ponies, strong thighs, no armor.

45King
March 26, 2003, 09:40 AM
Over the long run of human history, the desire to make killing tools has driven, both directy and indirectly, almost all the advances in technology we have enjoyed to date. An example: portable accurate timepieces did not exist until improved lathes and other machine tools were created. The drive to improve these machines arose out of the necessity to try and build better weapons; watchmaking happened as a side result.

Our species, homo sapiens sapiens, is a predator animal. Due to the combination of highest order intelligence, upright walking, and hands with opposable thumbs, we have risen to the top of the food chain by being able to build tools to meet our needs, and even manipulate, to some degree, our environment for our benefit. We are stone killers who enjoy killing because it represents continuation of life for us.

I feel that most of the problems we face ultimately stem from the fact that we have been in a state of denial for thousands of years, not wanting to face and admit the reality of what we are. Some say it's crude and barbaric, and we should be able to rise above it. I say that no living organism can "rise above" being what it is, and that if it is indeed crude and barbaric, it's because we live in a universe that is crude and barbaric. Like it or not, it's a simple fact; everything that lives lives at the expense of other living organisms. Those who feel that it is immoral to kill overlook that fact, and its corollary: if killing is indeed immoral, then the existence of ALL life is in itself immoral. If the existence of life itself is NOT immoral, then neither is killing.

I am a predator, and I'm not only not ashamed of it, but I'm damned proud of it! If someone doesn't like that, tough toenails.

seeker_two
March 26, 2003, 10:08 AM
If the United States is hit by such a weapon, will the Americans left alive re-elect Bush?

If Broward (sp?) Co., Florida survives, we may never know...:scrutiny:

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