Automatic weapon used in drive-by shooting....


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Drizzt
August 27, 2005, 04:03 AM
of course, it happened in Britain, not in the States...

Killing 'was first use of automatic AK47 rifle'
By Michael Horsnell

TWO men who shot dead a celebrity minder with an AK47 Kalashnikov assault rifle after rumours that he had turned police informant were jailed for life for his murder yesterday.

Dave King, 32, a body builder who had minded Robbie Williams, the singer, and Nigel Benn, the boxer, was hit by five of 26 rounds fired as he left the Physical Limits gym in Hoddesdon, Hertfordshire.

It is thought that the gangland killing was the first time that such a weapon had been fired in automatic mode during the execution of a crime in Britain, police said. The rifle, described by officers as “a weapon of war”, discharged the armour-piercing bullets in three seconds but no one else was hurt in the shooting.

Mr King, a 6ft 2in, 17-stone muscleman, said to have been a drug dealer who also ran property and security companies, died almost instantly in the drive-by shooting in October 2003. The man who pulled the trigger, Roger Vincent, 33, was told that he must serve a minimum of 30 years.

At Luton Crown Court, Mr Justice Wilkie told Vincent: “This was a thoroughly planned, ruthless and brutally executed assassination of a criminal led by you. It was committed in a public street in day-time and involved an automatic firearm, and it is only by great good fortune that no other passers-by were seriously injured or worse.”

David Smith, 33, who had driven the stolen Peugeot Boxer van from which the weapon was fired, was told that he must serve a minimum 25 years.

But who ordered the murder remained a mystery last night. The judge said Vincent had carried out the contract killing at the behest of “others” not before the court. During the six-week trial the jury was told that Vincent had been in regular contact with fellow hitman Gary Nelson who was being held in Belmarsh Prison.

In a series of phone calls taped by prison authorities Vincent and Nelson, who is now serving a life sentence for firearms offences, spoke in code to confuse the authorities. But it was clear that the pair talked about a shadowy senior underworld figure whom they referred to as “Dad”.

King, 32, lived in Stevenage, Hertfordshire, with his girlfriend and their four children. After his death, police discovered that King, who had been friends with his killers and others in their circle, had been heavily involved in crime.

The prosecution said he died because he had made enemies among his former associates, probably because they thought he was an informer.

Through the grapevine King learned that a contact had been taken out on his life.

Upon leaving the gym with his friend and bodyguard Ian Crocker, King was getting into the passenger seat of a car without his customary bulletproof vest when the van pulled alongside and the masked gunman fired the AK47 through an open window.

In a hail of bullets, he was hit in the arm, hip, abdomen and thigh, but died from a chest wound.

The following day a couple walking beside Breydon Water in Great Yarmouth discovered a partially submerged holdall. Inside was the Kalashnikov wrapped in towels and a pillowcase.

Co-defendant Julian Elfes, 38, was convicted of assisting an offender. He was jailed for five years for booking an hotel room to allow Vincent to lie low. A fourth man, Jason Attridge, 36, was cleared of murder. Dean Spencer, 31, has pleaded guilty to conspiracy to murder and awaits sentence.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1747996,00.html

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armoredman
August 27, 2005, 10:05 AM
When ordinary firearms will get you the same toss as more exotic stuff, why not go for the gusto, and get something a little better? I understand the Beretta M12 subguns are also popular among the British "Yardies" gangs.

4v50 Gary
August 27, 2005, 10:07 AM
Methinks SFPD Officer Issac Espinoza was killed by lowlife who used a full auto AK-47. Gee, I guess the California gun ban of '89 didn't prevent one crime.

The Real Hawkeye
August 27, 2005, 10:16 AM
If only he had used a double barrel shotgun with buckshot, that man would still be alive today. Damned Assault Weapons! ;)

Pilgrim
August 27, 2005, 11:10 AM
It is thought that the gangland killing was the first time that such a weapon had been fired in automatic mode during the execution of a crime in Britain, police said. The rifle, described by officers as “a weapon of war”, discharged the armour-piercing bullets in three seconds but no one else was hurt in the shooting.
Written with the same awe of discovery as when it was first determined ancient man sharpened a stick and used it to stab his fellow man.

Pilgrim

Whatsit
August 27, 2005, 11:49 AM
A celebrity 'minder'...that sounds rather untoward.

Gunpacker
August 27, 2005, 01:17 PM
And he got only 30 years???? Heck, in Britain, a homeowner probably would get that for defending himself by killing an armed rapist/murderer/robber during a home invasion.

DarthBubba
August 27, 2005, 01:41 PM
I love the smell of gun ban legislation failure in the morning. :D
I bet all of those around during the shootings in question felt glad that the laws of the realm were in place to stop such things from happening. Wow do you think that the arms used in the attacks were obtained legally?
Remember campers an armed men are citizens unarmed men are subjects.
Another you can die and we don't care moment brought to you by the good people at any number of anti-gun organizations our mottoes are “Making sure you die so that we can take your stuff and redistribute it.”
Sorry for the sarcastic rant but the more I read the more ill I become. :barf:

DarthBubba

carebear
August 27, 2005, 02:01 PM
In a hail of bullets, he was hit in the arm, hip, abdomen and thigh, but died from a chest wound.

:scrutiny:

Alert Oliver Stone and Kevin Costner, the REAL shooter must be found!!!

:evil:

bigun15
August 27, 2005, 03:57 PM
(in referance to the AK47)
“a weapon of war”,

That's right, every time it's picked up it will be used to kill. Yup, sure. Come visit the states for a few days, you'll see. I was going to use an AK once in NM (didn't get to, someone stole the owner's magazine) on a paper target. But according to these people, the gun would have overcome my common sence and friendly attitude and I would turn around and shoot everyone around me.

Whatever.

Drizzt
August 27, 2005, 06:41 PM
Carebear: The article did say he was hit 5 times out of the 26 rounds fired.

carebear
August 27, 2005, 07:12 PM
One of those magic bullets I'm sure. :D

I'm thinking it was the CIA.

mics357
August 27, 2005, 07:16 PM
well, just another piece of empirical evidence on how well national weapon bans work. if someone there was ccw those clowns would have been done, (saving taxpayers dollars) helped clear the gene pool, and may have saved other lives, ( only 5 of 26 hit target) the other 21 rnds went somewhere, was anyone else injured? For a country with no weapons, sure seems to have been a lot of gun related high profile murders in U.K. recently , don't ya think?

sry, (steps off soapbox) just my rant for the day :o

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