GE Minigun photo


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benEzra
August 29, 2005, 10:25 PM
Many years ago, someone gave my dad a print of a GE promo photo taken of a GE minigun with the barrels glowing after a 3000-round burst. Written on the back of the photo is "25mm" and "3600 rpm". I dug it up this evening and scanned it. Enjoy!

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Fly320s
August 29, 2005, 10:29 PM
Thanks, Ben.

I lost that MiniGun at Disney World a few years ago. Just wrap it up and drop it in the mail for me. :D

Exposure
August 29, 2005, 10:39 PM
Good Lord! That looks to be on an indoor range no less!!!!! Can you imagine what that would have sounded like to be anywhere near that monster on a test like that??????

Thanks for the awesome picture, that is just too cool. :cool:

Sheldon J
August 29, 2005, 10:51 PM
Dillon has a video called "Fire storm in the desert" shows just this type of thing I WANT ONE!!! :p

model 649
August 29, 2005, 10:55 PM
WOW!! I take it those barrels are now scrap? BTW, why are those called "miniguns", anyway?
Josh

Charles S
August 29, 2005, 11:12 PM
Very cool.

Charles

C96
August 29, 2005, 11:14 PM
Looks a little small for a 25mm, maybe a .30 cal ? Of course if that is what it
says on the back ?

Great photo, thanks for sharing.

allan

torpid
August 29, 2005, 11:21 PM
Break out the marshmallows!

:D

Bulldozer
August 29, 2005, 11:27 PM
That Mini-Gun in the picture has six barrels. The 25mm Mini-Gun is a five-barrelled affair. Perhaps it is a 20mm, or 7.62mm?

Joejojoba111
August 30, 2005, 02:14 AM
...must touch...

Taurus 66
August 30, 2005, 02:27 AM
Wow! Keep spinning it after it uses up the rounds. This will cool it down faster. ;)

Hacker15E
August 30, 2005, 05:58 AM
I'd guess, based on the use of the word 'minigun' -- and the apparent size of the barrels -- that this is a 7.62mm and not a 25mm.

RyanM
August 30, 2005, 08:22 AM
7.62mm, 25mm, whatever. Getting hit 3000 times will kill you just as dead! :neener:

benEzra
August 30, 2005, 09:06 AM
It looks like 7.62mm to me (compare the size to the electrical outlets and such on the wall behind the gun). The stuff written on the back was in my dad's handwriting, so I think whoever gave him the photo probably told him wrong.

Isn't the 7.62mm minigun the one that's fitted to some specops helicopters?

RTFM
August 30, 2005, 09:15 AM
My favorite t-shirt.

http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Minigun.jpg

Dionysusigma
August 30, 2005, 09:20 AM
Is it bad that as soon as I clicked, I began giggling rather stupidly? :o :p :D

Kharn
August 30, 2005, 10:22 AM
I think they degraded the expected serviceable life of the barrels with that burst. :evil:

Kharn

middy
August 30, 2005, 10:50 AM
GE "We bring death to bad things!"

Working Man
August 30, 2005, 11:14 AM
How do I get to work there? :evil:

miko
August 30, 2005, 11:56 AM
^^^
Move to China.

PvtPyle
August 30, 2005, 01:32 PM
Thats the M134, 7.62X51 minigun. They are not even considered to be hot until they have fired 900rds. And a 3000rd burst can be fired without any real negative effects to the gun or barrels. They feed from mostly 3000rd hoppers.

roo_ster
August 30, 2005, 02:46 PM
My dad retired from GE. I wonder what sort of employee discount he could wrangle?

Bart Noir
August 30, 2005, 03:44 PM
....anymore. Dillon (Dillon Aerospace?) bought up the product; lock, stock, and 6-barrels. That's why it is even listed as a Dillon product in Janes reference books.

Bart Noir

TMM
August 30, 2005, 03:47 PM
that's one thing i would NOT have expected General Electric to make! i thought they did, like, electrical-related stuff?

but damn - that's one HOT barrel! (barrels, really.)
~TMM

Luchtaine
August 30, 2005, 03:53 PM
Its Called a mini gun because it is a scaled down verision of the Vulcan cannon. I don't know the designation off hand but I think it was 30mm.

P95Carry
August 30, 2005, 03:53 PM
Awesome pic ben - thx for scanning and submitting.

elric
August 30, 2005, 03:58 PM
that's one thing i would NOT have expected General Electric to make! i thought they did, like, electrical-related stuff?

Its got an electric motor to spin it, so that counts, right? At least that's what the engineers that developed it probably told their bosses so that they could justify developing it :D .

P.S. Does Dillon need any more EEs to further test his new ones? :cool:

homeka45
August 30, 2005, 04:01 PM
Wicked, I wonder what the target looked like? :evil:

wingnutx
August 30, 2005, 04:06 PM
The SF guys I worked for in Iraq had those mounted on their humvees.

I'll post pics when I get a chance.

bytor94
August 30, 2005, 04:36 PM
Thatís definitely an M134. Used in vehicle mounts, aircraft mounts and just about anywhere you want some serious firepower.

I worked with them on the older series AH-1 Cobra helicopters, before they went to the M197 20 MM cannon. (Think minigun scaled up. With only three barrels.)

All in all, an awesome fun gun. Got to shoot it a couple of times after all the pilots had qualified and we had enough ammo left. Talk about a stupid looking grin touching the ears!!! :evil: :D

P95Carry
August 30, 2005, 04:42 PM
Talk about a stupid looking grin touching the ears!!! We need a pic!!! :D :neener:

Bulldozer
August 30, 2005, 05:04 PM
M-134/GAU-2B/A is the 7.62 x 51mm 6-bbld version, found on choppers.

M-61A1 20mm Vulcan 6-bbld version is found in the fighters like F-14/15/16/18

GAU-12U is the 5-bbld 25mm version that is mounted on USMC Harrier IIs.

TMM
August 30, 2005, 05:22 PM
ts got an electric motor to spin it, so that counts, right? At least that's what the engineers that developed it probably told their bosses so that they could justify developing it .

that's what i thought, but i didn't think just the motor would qualify it being GE's... and i didn't really know GE had gunsmithing experience. =)

~TMM

Amadeus
August 30, 2005, 05:37 PM
that's one thing i would NOT have expected General Electric to make! i thought they did, like, electrical-related stuff?

GE has done defense contracting for years. Mostly missile and aerospace stuff. But I wouldn't put it past them to build a few bang-toys here and there.

As for the item in the picture --- I could mount that in my bedroom window -- something to drown out the sounds of car alarms in the morning. :evil:

p35
August 30, 2005, 05:47 PM
GE got into defense when someone realized that the power plant turbines they were building were almost identical to jet engines. Lots of odd bedfellows out there- my M1 carbine was made by the signal lights division of General Motors, and there are quite a few others made by Underwood Typewriter. They get into stuff like this in an emergency, and often just keep doing it after the war.

svtruth
August 30, 2005, 05:53 PM
My math says 3600 revs/min times 6 barrels=21600 rounds/min divided by 3000= a tad over 7 sec burst.
Does the rifling spin the bullets the same or the opposite direction as the rotation of the barrel asssembly?

RecoilRob
August 30, 2005, 06:13 PM
I think the "3600 rpm" means Rounds Per Minute. Isn't max 6000 RPM?. Still, 60 rounds per second is spitting them out pretty fast!

Commissar Gribb
August 30, 2005, 07:04 PM
IIRC, in janes- the mini is listed at 6000 RPM.

I remember this because it was the highest cyclic rate in the book I had.

FRIENDLY
August 30, 2005, 07:29 PM
Just what you need for rabbit shooting.

thorn726
August 30, 2005, 07:33 PM
i'm with the other guy who said- "must..... touch!"

ha ha haha. very cool! (or NOT very cool actually!)

p35
August 30, 2005, 07:34 PM
Speaking of which, I've heard there's an Army demo film out there where they turn a rabbit loose in the middle of a football field and an aircraft then passes over firing a minigun.

Several tries, and the rabbit never survives.

Ky Larry
August 31, 2005, 12:02 AM
It can be used to light your smokes when your Zippo runs dry. :uhoh:

PvtPyle
August 31, 2005, 12:57 AM
There used to be two motors for the M134. One is 300o ROUNDS pre minute and the other was around 4500rpm. They are all issued with the 3000rpm motor at this point.

pete f
August 31, 2005, 06:22 AM
I have a GE demo tape that show trade show films from the late sixties and early seventies when GE was trying to market these things. about forty five minutes of sheer giggles. they show 308 cal, in long and short barrel models, 50 cal, 20 mm and 30 mm. they have two fifty cals mounted on a m113 chassis connected to a towed radar unit and that thing literally has brass pouring out of it like rain. A F100 target drone just gets sawn into little pieces. The show 20 round bursts, 100 round bursts and then they show a thousand rounds or six seconds burst on a m113 with the 20mm and when the close up shows the APC, there is a two foot hole chewed right through the near AND far walls of the track. They also showed a flip up mount that was to be used on discrete carry in a truck. the tarp of the truck covers the bed flat and a soldier pulls a lever and the minigun pops up to action in about a second. GE and Orlikon made a three barrel 57 mm AAA that made it atleast to the proto type stage, but the wieght of ammo was too much for the thing to be useful for more than one burst without resupply.

Also the CIWS or cheesewhiz vessel defense system the Navy uses on ships as a last gasp against closein targets (within the fusing range of missles) is a 20 mm selfcontained system and the Goalpost system uses the 30mm Gau 8 for land defense, during the testing of the CIWS on a barge, The weapon performed exactly as designed in ripping to shreds an incoming drone, and as the wreckage of the drone scattered, the CIWS reaimed and fired at four or five different pieces of wreckage as the parts floated down, As the parts rained on the water, a flock of gulls roosting by the barge also took off and the CIWS dutifully registered them as warheads and engaged three and turned all three into puffs of feathers before the commander of the test aborted the event.

in some movie the guy has something like this fitted to an armored up Suburban. If i recall Car and Driver magazine tested the thing,, it had a metal grate floor to lose the empties.

Ofcourse GMC will offer this next year as an option against car jackers.
http://www.ibistek.com/viper_gallery.asp?title=main

Jayb
August 31, 2005, 10:03 AM
Neat pics of the gun, now here's a couple of pics of the thing "doing it's job in VietNam. I took these pics in I Corps, between Cam Lo and Khe Sanh. Enjoy

http://personal.swayzee.com/jayb/puff1.jpg
http://personal.swayzee.com/jayb/puff2.jpg

Some of you might remember this as well....

http://personal.swayzee.com/jayb/quad50.jpg

birddog
August 31, 2005, 10:40 AM
I can think of many uses, but the one that comes to mind right now is protecting your property from gangs of looters in the event of a natural disaster, such as oh...say...a hurricane? Anyone see the footage of the looting on Fox & CNN? :uhoh:

"So you want that TV, do you? Then say hello to my leetle friend..." :fire:

P0832177
August 31, 2005, 04:44 PM
Think of the once fired brass! A life time supply in a few minutes! Granted it might not be the best brass after going through that contraption! Go check out one application for the gun http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-air-support/vietnam/spooky-puff.htm or the new and improved version http://www.globalaircraft.org/planes/ac-130_spectre.pl

Sam Adams
August 31, 2005, 06:18 PM
When I first saw the picture I thought "why would they paint the barrels red?" Then I read the text. DUH!

Wow, just wow! :evil: :evil: :evil:

Old NFO
August 31, 2005, 07:59 PM
JayB- Good pics of Puff at work :D My Uncle was one of the test pilots for Spooky at England AFB, LA and I saw both Puff and Spectre work a few times over Nam.

For those who weren't there, those pics are of a SINGLE GE 7.62 6000 rpm minigun firing from the main cabin door aft of the wing on the left side of the AC-47. They used 3000 round tubs to provide ammo to the gun, and later used 9000 round chained stacks for longer duration fire with a total of 54,000 rounds carried per mission. :what:

It was aimed by the pilot drawing a circle and crosshairs on the side window with either a grease pencil or scope marker (for night flights). And as an earlier poster indicated, Spooky would put a round in every square yard of a football field in 1 minute of fire.

ghost squire
August 31, 2005, 11:25 PM
Which plane/helicopter carried the most miniguns ever?

Crosshair
September 1, 2005, 01:20 AM
Here is that Minigun video that was mentoned earlier.

Minigun in Action (http://users.rcn.com/sitzkrieg/war/gatlinggun.wmv) :cool: :cool: :cool:

Old NFO
September 1, 2005, 09:46 AM
Which plane/helicopter carried the most miniguns ever?

Ghost, to the best of my knowledge, it was the AC-119 Shadow and Stinger configurations, they carried 4 each of the 7.62 GE miniguns. The last version of the AC-47 carried 3, and the AC-130 Spectre carries only one (but has 20mm, 40mm and 105 Recoiless as backup :what:

Treylis
September 1, 2005, 09:03 PM
RTFM, where did you get that GE Minigun t-shirt?

bytor94
September 1, 2005, 09:56 PM
Which plane/helicopter carried the most miniguns ever?

Had to be this one,

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/bytor94/F-4Dwith15mini-guns.jpg

I would have loooved to seen that one firing! :evil: :evil: :D

bytor94
September 1, 2005, 10:00 PM
P95CARRY asked for a picture here:

Unfortunately, when I was grinning that big my forehead collapsed and now Iím really ugly. In the interests of not scaring any impressionable children ďdo it for the childrensĒ I canít let anybody possibly see it. :neener: :D

Old NFO
September 1, 2005, 10:01 PM
Had to be this one,
Bytor94, ya got me with that one.... But I don't think they could have carried too many rounds to support the guns. :D

bytor94
September 1, 2005, 10:22 PM
For the life of me I can't remember how many rounds each of the pods could carry, I'm thinking something like 1800 or 2000 rounds.

It's been 21 years or so since I worked on one and the memory just isn't there anymore. I guess one of my three functioning brain cells finally quit. :D

Old NFO
September 1, 2005, 10:48 PM
I guess one of my three functioning brain cells finally quit.

You're still ahead of me, I'm down to the last two, and they're not talking... :evil:

Seriously, that must have been an AF test platform, as I never saw one over there. I flew out of Iwakuni and Cam Rahn Bay and never did see that variant.

scout26
September 2, 2005, 11:49 AM
I bet that if they fired all those at the same time that F-4 could back-up in mid air. :eek:

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