Looking for more controllable .357 load.


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goon
August 29, 2005, 11:38 PM
Now that I have some ideas of how to deal with getting some better grips for my Security Six this may not be necessary, but I would like to try some other weights of bullets with it in hopes of finding something that will give me more control and faster follow up shots but still retain the power that the .357 has.
Where should I start?
So far I have been dealing with 158 grain JHP and JSP rounds. It has a 2.75 inch barrel so if there is something that will work better from a shorter barrel I would like to know about that too.
Thanks.

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Moonclip
August 30, 2005, 04:29 AM
Try a 110gr jacketed hollow point. Better expansion from a snub barrel, not as dazzling as a 125gr jhp but still very effective. Winchester makes a value type white box in this load.

Remington did or does make a 125gr jhp "medium velocity" load for these type guns also. Next step if recoil is still severe to you is something like a 38spl 158gr lead semi wadcutter hollowpoint but this is a big step down from the top 357loads but shot placement is #1 and might be a good idea for defense indoors.

Ever fire a snub 357 with hot ammo in a confined space at night :uhoh:

Mastrogiacomo
August 30, 2005, 06:16 AM
I used jacketed hollow points of 125 grain (.357) by Remington. It damn near took off my hand firing it through my 686. Wouldn't recommend the experience to anyone... :eek:

MrTuffPaws
August 30, 2005, 07:26 AM
You might want to consider trying out some of the 38spl p+ loads. While not the oomph of the 357, they ain't to shabby.

goon
August 30, 2005, 09:08 AM
Any good online sources for 110 grain JHP's or for these medium velocity Remington 125's? I have shot the standard Remington 125 grain loads before and I will agree that they are a little wicked.
I have looked locally but I can't find anything useful. I remember that when I first started shooting the 110 grainers were about all I used because a local shop had alot of them and they were only about $9 a box. :D
In my Security Six a standard .38 Special is like a loud .22.
My .357 handloads are on the mild side of mid range 158 grain loads. They are pretty controllable but only good for plinking.
The 158 grain Federal factory loads are a bit more lively. They aren't painful or anything but the recovery between shots suffers. Until I can obtain and modify some better grips for mine I would like to get some lighter ammo to help with this.
Thanks.

Bronco45
August 30, 2005, 02:17 PM
I'm beginning to sound like a shill for Pro Load but check out their 357 Mag Lites in 125grs @ or about 1100fps in a short bbled snub. :D

ChristopherG
August 30, 2005, 03:26 PM
I'd keep my eye out for THIS (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=121256) load to become available soon, from Speer. It uses their 135 Gold Dot which was specifically made for short barrel guns, and they're going to load it, I believe, for around a thousand fps from a 2" gun (so maybe 1050 from yours).

RyanM
August 30, 2005, 04:01 PM
The aforementioned 135 gr Speer Gold Dot is supposed to be excellent, but it overexpands and overpenetrates (the "petals" get smashed flat against the bullet shank) through guns longer than 3".

The medium-velocity round that Remington makes is the standard 125 gr Golden Saber, advertised as 1290 fps from a 4" vented barrel, IIRC.

charby
August 30, 2005, 04:32 PM
I used jacketed hollow points of 125 grain (.357) by Remington. It damn near took off my hand firing it through my 686. Wouldn't recommend the experience to anyone...

Ain't those great! Leaves nice dents in 3/8" steel knockdown targets.

I couldn't imagine shooting those in a snubby though. Not to bad one handed with my 4" GP-100

Charby

KONY
August 30, 2005, 06:32 PM
Winchester 145 grain Silvertips are very controllable in my 4" Security-Six. Not very flashy at all. Plus, they look pretty too! :cool:

Mastrogiacomo
August 30, 2005, 06:37 PM
I'd like to find something that I can use in my 2" SP - which is why I bought it. I'm beginning to wonder if I should opt for the wadcutters magnum loads. After one shot of the 125 grain hollow points, that was enough for me. :what: I do like Winchester so maybe I'll try that at some point - right now I've still got another 100 rounds to work through...

Marshall
August 30, 2005, 06:52 PM
+1 on the Silvertips.

tbeb
August 30, 2005, 08:11 PM
I used .357 magnum Winchester 110 gr. JHP's in a 2 1/2 inch Smith & Wesson Model 66. They average about 1050 fps from a short barrel. That matches the Winchester .38 special +P+ "Treasury Load".

grafs.com charges $15.59 for a box of 50 (plus a $3.75 handling & insurance charge per order to the lower 48).

dawei
August 30, 2005, 09:31 PM
Remington loads 125gr JHP to two power levels; 1450 & 1220fps respectively. Their renowned 125grBJHP Golden Saber® is loaded to the lower velocity. This is referred to as a "MEDIUM VELOCITY" load. If you try these you will find a marked difference:

VELOCITY: MUZZLE 50YDS 100YDS
Remington® Express™ 125 SJHP 1450 1240 1090
Golden Saber™ 125 BJHP 1220 1095 1009

ENERGY: MUZZLE 50YD 100YD
Remington® Express™ 125 SJHP 583 427 330
Golden Saber™ 125 BJHP 413 333 283

goon
August 31, 2005, 08:44 AM
Thanks for all the replies. I put the Remington medium velocity stuff on my wish list at Midway and plan to order some, along with some reloading components, with my next order. I'll try the Speer 135 grain stuff when it comes out too.

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