CNN says troops executed


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beemerb
March 26, 2003, 12:19 AM
According to CNN part the maintance unit that was captured where executed.Shot in the head.They are now afraid that word will get out to the troops.If it does I wonder how many prisoners will be taken by us?
Bob

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Admiral Thrawn
March 26, 2003, 12:45 AM
I haven't heard anything about this... I hope it isn't true... :mad:

CampX
March 26, 2003, 12:48 AM
How about waiting an hour or so, CNN will be sure to change their story between now and then.

Justin
March 26, 2003, 12:58 AM
I downloaded the Al Jazeera footage off of Kazaa yesterday. Of the footage shown, it appeared that at least two of them had been shot in the head at close range.:(

Mike Irwin
March 26, 2003, 01:00 AM
Fox had a report the other day that Pentagon staff who viewed the pictures shown of the dead soldiers were saying that they appear to have been executed by being shot in the head.

Admiral Thrawn
March 26, 2003, 01:08 AM
Yes, but I don't think the troops who were shot in the head were the men being questioned on TV. They had several rooms with dead US soldiers in them, and then the 5 living POWs. (I think...

:confused: ) That's not including the two AH-64 Apache crew members.

Hard Charger
March 26, 2003, 01:49 AM
Our troops are professional and more humane. They will be careful when taking prisoners, but they will still take them.

agricola
March 26, 2003, 05:20 AM
doubt that is true; for a start Saddam is paying these people twice for live POWs rather than dead ones.

Leatherneck
March 26, 2003, 07:57 AM
but I don't think the troops who were shot in the head were the men being questioned on TV. Ummm, no, I would think not. :rolleyes:

TC
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Bahadur
March 26, 2003, 02:12 PM
doubt that is true; for a start Saddam is paying these people twice for live POWs rather than dead ones.But then, there is the possibility that all were captured first and then some were subsequently shot for "not cooperating" with the illegal interrogations and public spectacle to scare the rest into cooperating.

UnknownSailor
March 26, 2003, 02:51 PM
I havn't seen the film, so I can't be sure, but maybe those who were shot were more senior NCOs or officers?

Ebbtide
March 26, 2003, 03:21 PM
I have read and heard too much about the methods Saddam uses in regards to POWs, that I will never believe he has changed.

Our service men and women are not safe as POWs under Saddam. The troops know it and surfice to say, there will be paypack.

Saddam is a filthy animal and it angers me to no end to see him breathing.

To offer a small measure of protection I would like to send a P-32 to every serviceman in the event they are captured. I would cram one up my butt if I had to.

...I'm starting to rant.

ehenz:cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :cuss: :banghead:

seeker_two
March 26, 2003, 04:46 PM
They are now afraid that word will get out to the troops.If it does I wonder how many prisoners will be taken by us?

For the front-line Iraqui soldier who genuinely surrenders, they'll be treated humanely.

But I wouldn't give you two cents for any POW camp personnel who are captured...:evil:

JoeSF
March 26, 2003, 08:16 PM
The report I read this morning said confirmation came from radio transmissions intercepted at the time. If I can find it again i'll post it here.

Here it is...
from..
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_764811.html


Ananova:

Iraq 'executed captured US troops'

US military officials have claimed Iraqi forces executed some of the American troops captured in Nasiriyah in front of local people.

Seven army mechanics died and five were taken prisoner on Sunday after they took a wrong turn and ran into an ambush.

Iraq claims the victims were killed in fighting, but a video broadcast on Arab TV network Al Jazeera showed several of the troops with bullet wounds to the head.

"When the full story comes out, people will be outraged," one senior US military official told the New York Times.

He said they had learnt of the public executions from a communications intercept. The five captured soldiers, including a woman, were paraded on TV in an apparent breach of the Geneva Convention governing prisoners of war.

The Pentagon has also accused the Iraqis of other war crimes, including faking surrender and then shooting at US forces.

Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said up to 30,000 members of the Fedayeen - Saddam Hussein's militia - have been deployed to southern Iraq and are using terrorist tactics to fight allied forces.

The black-hooded fighters, whose name means "those ready to sacrifice themselves for Saddam", are said to be using guerrilla warfare in Basra, Nasiriyah and Umm Qasr.

Mr Rumsfeld said the Fedayeen were a "terrorist-type threat" and are expected to continue battling advancing allied forces until Saddam Hussein was overthrown.

"I suspect that some of these deadenders will be down there shooting people and doing that type of thing," he added.


Story filed: 15:54 Wednesday 26th March 2003

Skunkabilly
March 26, 2003, 08:54 PM
:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Any word on torture?

:barf:

clange
March 27, 2003, 01:37 AM
Someone said yesterday (on another board) that CNN claimed Time was going to come out with a piece claiming the dead were executed in public trying to surrender, in front of towns people..

Khornet
March 27, 2003, 07:21 AM
among the troopers. This is how we got Iwo Jima type combat. BIG Iraqi mistake.

The Reaper
March 27, 2003, 09:00 AM
My hope is that we keep the footage of these events and are able to locate the individuals responsible.

May God have mercy on their souls.

JoeSF
March 27, 2003, 10:39 PM
I heard Gen Franks say today on a live broadcast March 27, he did not know if our soldiers were executed. Then there is this from the Herald Tribune dated March 26.
from...

http://www.iht.com/articles/91098.html

Captives executed, U.S. thinks
Eric Schmitt and David Sanger/NYT The New York Times
WASHINGTON Some of the U.S. Army mechanics captured Sunday after they took a wrong turn in the Iraqi town of An Nasiriya were executed by their captors in front townspeople in the area, American officials alleged Tuesday night.
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It is unclear how many of the seven soldiers who died killed were executed rather than being killed in a skirmish, as the Iraqis claim. Five other U.S. soldiers were taken prisoner.
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Officials based their allegations about the executions on accounts that American officials apparently have received from intercepted conversations in the area near the Euphrates River. Officials said that many details surrounding the deaths of the soldiers were still unclear.
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The accusations regarding the execution of American soldiers came days after videotape of the Army prisoners and the dead soldiers broadcast on Al Jazeera, the Arab satellite television network, showed images of at least four bodies. Some of the dead soldiers appeared to have bullet wounds to the head.
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‘‘When the full story comes out, people will be outraged,’’ one senior U.S. military official said.
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The accusation came at the end of a day in which senior White House and Pentagon officials charged the Iraqis with a number of war crimes, including masquerading as surrendering soldiers and then shooting at American forces, and using an Iraqi hospital as a staging area for military operations.
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Raymond VanDerLinden
March 27, 2003, 10:52 PM
That you can expect to be either, Tortured and/or exicuted if you surrender to Iraqi forces.

Do I expect our boys to Exicute Iraqis that attempt to surrender. NO! I think they know that the Iraqi soldier (regular army) is likely to be shot in the back by Saddoms watchdogs, for not doing as he is told. I'm sure that they are being very careful when accepting surrenders.

I also believe that when U.S. Soldiers find out they will be very unlikely to surrender. Hell If it was me I'd be throwing rocks if that was all I had.

Admiral Thrawn
March 28, 2003, 04:21 AM
Leatherneck, I meant AFTER they were shown on TV..... Duh!!!
:neener:

agricola
March 28, 2003, 04:28 AM
i would say that Coalition command and the politicians behind this war had better make sure that they have the best intelligence behind them that enables them to make these claims; at least one family of the two "executed" British soldiers is accusing Blair of lying:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12783733&method=full&siteid=50143

using the dead to make political points is verminous behaviour and, despite all of the anti-war rebellions amongst labour MP's, civil disobiedience and all that, it will be incidents like these that turn our population against him (and by implication, the war).

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