[2dogs]

http://www.etherzone.com/2003/shie032603.shtml

THIS MOOSE IS AN ***:
RACIST CHIEF WAS SNIPER'S ALLY

By: William A. Shields

The Multi-Culturalists are killing us.



I knew this to be true back in my FAA days when air traffic controllers were hired and promoted on the basis of race and gender – as long as that race and or gender was something other than white male. And the competent white boys were left to actually push the tin around safely. This is not to say that the darker fellows and the weaker sex could not perform up to standards. Racist FAA managers who viewed them as inferior, and used them as evidence of progressive management credentials, never held them to that standard. The safety of the system suffers for it still, and is the major reason why I discourage any participation in commercial aviation.




Comes now the beltway sniper episode, and the facts that are surfacing about the “hero” of that investigation, Chief Charles Moose. The more we find out about this cop, the more I wonder why this racist idiot is not being charged with a crime. And once again, the multi-culturalists are infecting the public safety arena, this time in law enforcement.



Police union officials are charging that Chief Moose withheld descriptions of the beltway snipers at least one day, endangering citizens and cops. I believe he did so because he knew the suspects were black males. According to Moose, he didn’t want to “paint some group.”



No, it turns out that Chief Moose DID want to paint some group – white males to be specific. Chief Moose wanted white males to be the snipers so bad, that he allowed the real snipers to hide in plain sight. In fact, while eyewitness reports of dark skinned men were being discounted, police were told to NOT check vehicles containing black men, and to focus on white male suspects. However, after reports of white vehicles were received, sketches of those VEHICLES were distributed. Reports of actual black suspects did not seem to warrant any sketches.


On October 3rd, Malvo and Muhammad took the life of their sixth victim. Earlier that day the D.C. police had checked on the vehicle plates of the snipers’ car. But the D.C. police did not stop and question Malvo and Muhammad because, according to D.C. Police chief Charles Ramsey, “We were looking for a white van with white people.”

There was, however, no eyewitness reports of any “white people” connected with this crime up to this point. A white vehicle yes, but not any white people. White snipers were a figment of someone’s imagination, or at most they were drawn from some psychological profile based on previous historical incidents. But there were reports of black suspects and Chief Moose apparently discarded these out of hand.

Meanwhile a dragnet was being thrown over white males, and black males were being waved through the checkpoints. It really looks as if Chief Moose was actually TRYING to pin this horrible crime on any white male he could make a case against.

Make no mistake about it. Chief Moose is a dangerous racist. We know this because he has left a slimy track record of racial incidents throughout his career. For more disturbing background on Moose read Paul Sperry’s excellent article Chief Moose cost lives on WorldNetDaily.

The multi-culturalists care not for public safety. They will push their agenda no matter how many lives, careers or reputations are sacrificed. Their battle cry is diversity uber alles, and in their wake they leave outrageous failures, and stark raving malfeasance. They are turning our country into a third world look alike, with third world police corruption, and third world transportation failures.

Police Chief Charles Moose is the latest poster boy for this madness.

[Double Naught Spy]

etherzone? Another responsible news organization - NOT!

While I don't doubt Moose didn't do everything right, I have yet to see a big sort of investigation like that where everything was done right.

As for whether or not he withheld descriptions, he may have, but keep in mind that the previous eye witness descriptions of an olive skinned man in a white van with a broken tail light turned out to be a 100% fabrication and a large amount of man hours were spent looking specifically for the wrong people.

Moose had no problems with releasing that information and so I don't see where there is justification that Moose wanted the shooters to be white. That seems to be pure crap. Then he got burned on it as it was in error and so he had his folks and other groups looking for this white van with the busted light with the olive skinned person in it and NOT looking for what folks or black folks.

I don't see where the race card being played here is correct. I think shields is looking for controversy and his claims don't stand up.

Did Moose withhold information for a day? Yep, as far as I know that was correct, but not because Moose was a racist against whites. It is more likely that he wanted to be sure that the information was solid before directing folks to start looking for specific people of a specific skin color given the fiasco of trying to catch the olive-skinned shooter. It was more prudent to not have people looking for any specific type of potential shooter rather than potentially looking for the wrong potential shooter as with the olive-skinned dude. In other words, let everyone remain as potential suspects as opposed to being exclusionary and missing them.

Through it all, the really amazing thing was the who white van and white box truck. One was reported at an early shooting and so people started looking for them. If somebody heard a shot, they were preconditioned to look to see if a white box truck was around and in the DC area, there are thousands of them and sure enough, people often saw white box trucks in and around the time of the shootings. The white box truck was something witnessed at an early shooting as leaving the area quickly, but it turned out to not be relevant to the case.

The the shooting at the hardware store and the olive skinned guy was seen getting in a white van. That information was fabricated. But the whole white box truck, white van, and olive skinned shooter information did a tremendous amount to hurt the investigation. In fact, the white cargo truck information caused people to be looking for the wrong thing when they heard a shot go off. No doubt that the blue Caprice that was used by the shooters was seen by many people, only they were looking for a white box truck.

Given the way preliminary information that was incorrect or totally fabricated did manage to hinder the investigation, I am not surprised he withheld information until being certain, but it wasn't because he wanted the shooter to be white. What a load of barf!

:barf:

[gun-fucious]

The Montgomery County ethics board decided he could not write a tell all book, so our ethical Moose may quit his post so he can profit from his experience.

He was brought in as a PC chief and has acted as such

[seeker_two]

Moose learned from the best...

http://countrythings.net/images/barney.jpg

[JohnBT]

The author sounds as if he has an ax to grind...and that he's ground it for so long he ain't got nothing left 'ceptin the handle.

If there was a problem with the investigation it was likely due to the pervasive LIBERAL mindset of most of the folks running Montgomery County - I wouldn't put it all on the chief.

John
Richard Montgomery H.S., Class of '68

[Sleeping Dog]

Chief Moose may or may not have wanted the killer to be white. But I think he was just the media front-man and did not really pull the strings in the investigation. It was multi-state, so I'm sure the feds were running things. FBI certainly, and possibly CIA if they thought it was influenced from outside.

He'll write his stupid book and make a lot of money. He won a lottery of sorts.

Regards.

[DeltaElite]

We desperately need a tinfoil hat smiley. :D

[moa]

If I remember correctly, once Malvo and Muhammed's car was ID'd, the description that went out publically was the license plate and a description of the car. Do not recall any mention of the description of the suspected shooters themselves.

All the "profilers" kept repeating that the shooter/s had to be younger white guys because that is what the odds were in their mind-set.

Maybe in the future, in case of similar events, those twits will keep their mouths shut starting with John Walsh.

Chief Moose could not be too racist. He is married to a blond white women from down south.

[gun-fucious]

D.C. SNIPER TERROR
Revealed: Secret
sniper stake-out
Moose sent team to Muhammad's ex-wife's home full day before releasing look-out
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Posted: March 19, 2003
9:02 p.m. Eastern

By Paul Sperry
©_2003_WorldNetDaily.com


ROCKVILLE, Md. – Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose secretly dispatched a team of undercover officers to stake out the home of alleged sniper John Lee Muhammad's ex-wife a full 24 hours before he released a physical description of the sniper suspects to police, WorldNetDaily has learned...

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31613

[scottgun]

etherzone? Another responsible news organization - NOT!
How about WND are they a reliable news source?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29590

Is this another author with an axe to grind? Or are the facts coming out?

Chief Moose is the liberal front man to the media, representing the police. He is also anti-gun. Is it too hard to believe that a black police chief could be racist, even given facts to back it up. Just because you don't believe or agree with what is said, doesn't make it a aluminum foil beenie conspiracy.

[Double Naught Spy]

WorldNetDaily another fine news organization.

Yes, a Tinfoil hat smiley would be very good.

Even if Moose withheld certain information it does not prove that he is racist, wanted the snipers to be another color, or any of that barf put forth in the first article from etherzone.

Another bend on the interpretation is that he may have had strong suspicions about the suspects, but not confirmed what he needed to make a definite statement.

If we are going to put blame here, why not blame the officer who stopped the snipers shortly after one of the early shootings and managed not to note anything unusual and set them free when he had them in his hands. Was he also a secret partner with the snipers as well?

I am surprised y'all haven't turned to the reports in the National Enquirer on this where Chief Moose consulted psychics who apparently told him who the snipers were early on.

[DeltaElite]

The FBI profilers are the ones who screwed that investigation into the ground.
The use of their profile allowed the killers through several roadblocks, with their profile.
Now before you jump on me, I have read profiling books and while profiles can be very helpful in criminal investigations, they can also be the cause of much heartache when they are inaccurate and taken as gospel by the Le involved.

[Double Naught Spy]

No flames, but the FBI profilers were not to blame for the snipers not fitting the profile. Given previous history, the profilers generated a profile of what they expected to compose the one sniper. Nobody expected the sniper to be two black individuals.

The real blame comes in how law enforcement and the media use such information and it is used in the same way across the country. Profiles are generated and really are a percentages game. The shooter was said to probably be a younger adult male, white, with a military background or some other basis for shooting experience. Why? Because this is what previous shooters were...most of the time.

So a profile was generated and distributed and what happened? Law enforcement and the media treated the profiles in large part like they were some sort of valid witness information.

[Unisaw]

Give me a break. I haven't seen anything that indicates that all law enforcement personnel involved weren't simply doing their best to deal with a difficult situation. Trying to turn this into a racist thing is ridiculous.

[Smurfslayer]

Moose does have racist incidents in his history. It was in several newspapers that he was disciplined for berating white police officers with racial remarks. At least that incident is not in dispute. Whether or not his bumbling incompetence was brought on by racism is only conjecture right_now. On one hand, it's Chuckie's word against the accuser... who is... an unnamed source in the PD...

My take on it? Chief Moose is a racist. He's anti freedom. He's not the most well spoken person in the world. Nobody's proven to me so far that his conduct in the beltway murderer's investigation was tainted by racism. All of these things aren't necessarily desirable for a head of your police department.

Maybe he's the best they could do. But, what he should be fired for, is trying to capitalize on his government service by getting that book published on the backs of the officers who did all the work. That is simply disgraceful.

[gun-fucious]

seems his men are a tad miffed for other reasons:

Moose faces criticism from his officers over pay raises

by Manju Subramanya
Staff Writer
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Mar. 26, 2003

Montgomery County Police Chief Charles A. Moose, who became a national hero during the October sniper shootings, is facing a growing tide of discontent within his department.

The brewing unhappiness among his officers was brought to a boil by an arbitrator's ruling Feb. 24 that gives a 2 percent pay raise to police officers of the rank of sergeant and below, not the 3.5 percent they had sought.

http://www.gazette.net/200313/montgomerycty/county/150204-1.html

[scottgun]

More information of Moose's cover up of the sniper suspect's description. This happened from the very first sniper shooting.
What part of this doesn't sound racist?
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31764

By Paul Sperry
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

ASPEN HILL, Md. – Just hours after the Beltway snipers shot out a crafts store window here, kicking off a three-week rampage, a pizza delivery man on shift next to the store told local police he saw two short-haired black males leave the scene – laughing and "high-fiving" each other – in a dark, older-model car, WorldNetDaily has learned.

Yet the sniper task force, led by Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, ignored the early eyewitness account and focused instead on a white suspect in a white vehicle, according to MCPD investigators, who are now speaking out about what they call racially correct "tunnel vision" during the nation's largest manhunt.

Chief Charles Moose

The snipers shot out a window at a Michaels craft store here in Aspen Hill at 5:20 p.m. on Oct. 2. About 45 minutes later, they shot and killed a 55-year-old man in a grocery store parking lot in nearby Wheaton, Md. He was the first of the snipers' 13 victims.

Suspecting the Michaels shooting was connected, one of Moose's homicide detectives canvassed the shopping center there, a senior investigator says. He took a statement from a Papa John's Pizza employee working two doors down from Michaels, who said he heard the rifle report and turned to see "two black males with short hair" driving slowly away in a dark-colored "beat-up vehicle," the source said.

The witness told the detective the men were "laughing and high-fiving themselves" as they left the parking lot, according to the investigator, who requested anonymity. The car then sped up as it exited the parking lot, as if "fleeing the scene," as the witness reportedly put it.

The detective filed a written report with headquarters, but the eyewitness statement was buried, department sources say.

The manager of the Papa John's store in Aspen Hill yesterday confirmed that one of his drivers, Steve Cribbin, witnessed the snipers leave the parking lot the evening of Oct. 2.

"He said he heard the shot and he saw a car kind of speeding out of the parking lot," manager James Colston told WorldNetDaily.

John Allen Muhammad, 42, and Lee Boyd Malvo, 18, both black, were arrested in the murder spree on Oct. 24, while sleeping at a rural Maryland rest area. They were in a dark blue 1990 Chevrolet Caprice.

John Lee Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo

Some Montgomery county police officers charge that Moose was reluctant to release the suspects' race throughout the manhunt, because he had agreed with the Justice Department to end racial profiling in the county in 2000. Moose, who has blamed "systemic racism" for what he calls an "overrepresentation" of blacks on death row, also ended racial profiling in Portland, Ore., when he served as that city's police chief.

"Moose didn't want his officers stopping every black in Montgomery County," said one officer who worked on the investigation. "Of course, it was OK to stop every white in a white box truck."

The officer, who wished to remain nameless, says he knows that Moose personally was aware of the descriptions of Muhammad and Malvo as early as Oct. 21, the day before they took their last victim, a bus driver in Aspen Hill.

"Once he had the info, he didn't disclose it, and Conrad Johnson, the last victim, was killed," he said.

Moose has been working closely with Johnson's family to lobby state lawmakers for even tougher gun laws in Maryland.

Moose was positive enough about at least Muhammad's identity that he secretly dispatched a team of undercover agents, led by a Special Investigations Division commander, to stake out Muhammad's ex-wife's house two days before he was captured, as WorldNetDaily first reported. Moose swore the agents to secrecy, and he didn't release a look-out bulletin for Muhammad or Malvo with their physical descriptions for another 24 hours.

Police union officials recently complained in salary arbitration hearings with the county that Moose jeopardized investigators' and patrol officers' safety by withholding the descriptions, as WorldNetDaily also exclusively reported.

"Shame on him. Shame on him and everyone else who knew the look-out and kept it from investigators and patrol officers," another officer said in an internal police department e-mail obtained by WorldNetDaily. "Thank the heavens God was looking out for us, because Moose and his cronies were not."

The same officer called Moose a "self-promoting clown."

A Montgomery County ethics panel ruled last week that the 49-year-old chief cannot cash in on his role in the sniper manhunt with planned book and movie deals.

Moose did not respond to both verbal and written requests for an interview, which were made before he was called early last week to active duty with the U.S. Air National Guard.