is the XD an Import?

Someone told me its imported. I was under the impression its made at Springfield in the USA. I'm looking for hard information either way.

It is made in Croatia. Internationally it is known as the HS2000, but Springfield rebranded it after import as the XD.

As dolanp said, it is made in Croatia.

Get all your questions answered here:

http://www.hs2000talk.com/viewforum.php?f=20

Are you making a purchase?

yes, it is foreign made, but an excellent pistol regardless

Why is everybody jumping on the XD bandwagon. I don't think Springfield changed it any.

Simple.........Marketing! Its been a great gun for a long time. Now people know about it.........:D

Shoot well.

Yea, I'm thinking of getting that or maybe the 24/7 by Taurus. When I thought it was American made I was considering it over the Taurus just for that, but since the Taurus is about $60 less that might become a better option. Haven't had a chance to put my digits around that one yet, though. Another option might be a used Glock. I'd like to have a service sized handgun.

The Springfield XD is nothing more than a rebranded Croatian HS2000. The original was developed about '95, and it has been refined from then on.

Like someone said, all that Springfield did, was to market it. Hey, that's how the music industry works.

In fact we don't know it as the XD here, only as the HS2000....except noone buys them, as there is plenty of better stuff out there (like CZ).

If you want hard proof do a google....lol

and of course the price jumped a couple hundred bucks when they added the SA logo to the HS2000 :barf:

They're okay (I guess). I believe they come with 3 magazines? If you ask me that's a great marketing (Damn things probably only cost a couple bucks to make).

As far as CZs go (and clones)
Autos I've bought recently (last couple years)
1x CZ75B
1x CZ75
1x CZ40P
3x Witness 10mm
1x AT84s
1x Witness 38 super
0x Springfield XDs

and of course the price jumped a couple hundred bucks when they added the SA logo to the HS2000
a pox on that free market!

ruger270man, yes the xd went up about $100 or so. The HS 2000 started out with a retail of I think $415. When they weren't selling the price dropped about $100 or so when the company was unloading them. Yes now they cost more but you also have a lifetime waranty that will mean something. I have a HS2000 and when I needed a spare part for it the original company sent me a used part they salvaged from a used gun because that was all they had. That kind of warranty isn't worth much if your gun breaks. Springfield has given me new parts for my gun that have broken which is pretty good considering I didn't buy the gun from them. Lastly if springfield wasn't importing the xd I would now have a paperweight, where would I get parts? Mark

JamisJockey,

There are plently of US made pistols that are probably better than the 24/7.

And having said that, may I suggest the Belgum-made, US marketed Browning Pro9, or Pro40? Veeerryyy sweet pistols.

Well, since I am the proud owner of a pT145, and I'm being told the 24/7 is basically a scaled up 24/7, if the shoe fits I might wear it. Right now I'm at the hospital with my SO, seems its time to have my next little shooter, so I'll be signing off for awhile.

My father has an HS2000 that he bought new in 2002 for $295. After Springfield bought the distribution rights they agreed to fix, under warranty, an extractor problem he was having. I don't know if they still do this or not but it was mighty big of them.

say on top of the gun "made in Croatia" - i love my XD 40 Tactical.

I'd appreciate it if somebody would post the names of all the firearms that Springfield "makes" here in the U.S.

Pro-9 and Pro-40 are NOT made in Belgium!!!

They are 100% sourced in the United States.

How do I know? The companies I work for make the slide, the trigger bar, and the decock lever among other things.

"and of course the price jumped a couple hundred bucks when they added the SA logo to the HS2000 "

And it is still one of the best deals in new handguns today! Also, now you can get them in SS which is the way to go. The black finish is weak so stick with SS and you will not have a rust problem. I think the Glock and XD are the two best plastic guns on the market right now. No other gun seems to have got the plastic thing down yet. Kahr and Kel-Tec are good examples of plastic guns that are not done right.

Pro-9 and Pro-40 are NOT made in Belgium!!!
Owen,
I knew that FN had a manufacturing outfit in the US (I stumbled accross their website one day), but I didn't know that the PRO9 and PRO40 were not imports. Thanks for the info.

I guess that may be an option for the original poster after all :D

Cheers.

I think HK has the "plastic thing" down pretty well, too... Just my $.02

Forget "'where" it is made and concentrate more on who owns the company and where the profits flow. If it is a US company it matters little where it is made. Design and engineering usually reside in the USA and the profits flow back to the USA.

Its amazing to me how people focus so intently on where something is made and pay no attention to who owns the company and where the dollars go.....If the dollars flow into the USA, those profits are kept in a bank in the USA (usually) where loans are made etc...etc.....I could make it far more complex and go into balance of payment stuff but that would be over the top for the average shooter.

shoudek:
I thought I clearly stated that I was thinking of buying it anyway, and that if it was in fact made in the USA then I might eliminate a lower priced option (the 24/7) and buy American.
I will begin putting money away this paycheck for my next shooter. That might be the one.

I don't care where the profits wind up. Was just interested which Springfields are actually made in the U.S. I don't believe the fact that Springfield imports the Croatian Sensation makes it a better pistol than before Springfield stamped their name on it and jacked the price up.

Where something is made DOES matter.

Even if profits go to the US, the wages of the workers remain in the foreign country, which means fewer good jobs available in the US and a weaker buying power for Americans.

That is why I make it a point not to buy foreign-made guns. Call me a protectionist, if you will.

"I'd appreciate it if somebody would post the names of all the firearms that Springfield "makes" here in the U.S"

There is no such thing. Springfield Armory is no more than a marketing/importer company. Maybe some assembly and custom work, but it is NOT a factory in the classical term.

S&W or Ruger are factories.

that is my understanding also. they don't manufacture anything domestically. they assemble and fit parts. my favorites had always been their HK 91 clones and CZ 75 clones.

For all of the protectionists out there. don't firget that the wages paid to produce a product are only a small part of the equation.
Why do we import products from other countries?
It's because those other countries don't pay jackspit for wages.
The people on the assembly line making CZs, Springfields, Norincos, Taurus' and all of the other imports aren't exactly living on the dark blue Monopoly squares.

Now...
What about the American workers who unload the containers off the ship?
What about the American workers who haul that container to the distributor?
What about the American workers who unload thah container?
What about the American workers who catalogue, sell and ship that product to your local dealer?
What about the American workers at your local dealer who sell it to you?

And lastly...
What about the American workers who have to process your "instant background check"?

All of those people make a substantial part of their American paycheck off of that foreign made product.

It doesn't really what you buy from your local dealer as long as you buy SOMETHING from them. You local dealer need to sell something, anything in order to keep the doors open. And the more FFL dealers we have the better it is for all of us.

We should be concentrating on the Right to Buy, Keep and Bear Arms!
Grandfathered guns do nothing to help the gun community economy.



Oh yeah, personally if I was going to buy some tactical tupperwear the XD would be my hands down first choice. I don't care where it's made. It's a good product.

Oh yeah, personally if I was going to buy some tactical tupperwear the XD would be my hands down first choice.
BluesBear, you can say that after I let you shoot my Steyr M40 "spacegun"??? Well, dang, see if I let you shoot its NIB S9 little brother!

Bart Noir

Well I admit I liked the M40 better than I thought I would. But the XD just feels better to me.

But for me tupperware belongs in the kitchen. Besides they don't make either the XD or the M in .45acp. If I had to go with a smaller bore my first choice would be a Colt Government or the lighter/shorter Commander chambered in .38 Super.

Well stated Bluesbear. Canoneer, what kind of TV do you own? How about that DVD player or VCR? How about your car? ********** is a huge import buying state. That is your choice, but don't think that becuase your Toyota is made in the USA you're doing anyone any favors.

Ford makes cars in Canada, Mexico and all over the world. However, the profits flow back to the USA and they do a lot of good for the communities in which they are located. Toyota has a plant in the USA where they assemble the vehicle with parts from mostly Japanese auto suppliers, however, their product developement, design and engineering staffs are where? In Japan......the profits flow back to Japan where investments are made in Japanese businesses. Focus on assembly and you're focusing on the wrong area. They fool a lot of people by building plants and advertising they're "made in the USA". Yeah, right.

This will be my last post on this topic, because some people either don't want to get it or are too brainwashed to try and understand the bigger picture.

Well I admit I liked the M40 better than I thought I would. But the XD just feels better to me.

But for me tupperware belongs in the kitchen. Besides they don't make either the XD or the M in .45acp. If I had to go with a smaller bore my first choice would be a Colt Government or the lighter/shorter Commander chambered in .38 Super.

Well, see, I really don't care. My question was, is the thing an import or not? Now that's been answered.

I certainly won't be "labeling" anybody for his beliefs. I see a lot of money to be made in China by enterprising Americans. Get some.