Opinions wanted from H&K owners?


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tlhelmer
March 26, 2003, 10:20 PM
I am thinking about trading my Sig 220 two-tone plus cash for a H&K Tactical. That is if I can find someone to trade or I can sell the 220. Would this be a mistake?

Your thoughts and opinions are wanted.

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Stevie-Ray
March 26, 2003, 10:23 PM
I guess it depends on how well you like your Sig. H&K makes a fine weapon but then so does Sig. My USPc "pointed" better for me than the Sig. Some will say the opposite. I wouldn't mind having both names.

gudel
March 26, 2003, 11:10 PM
my dad has the p226 not the 220, very nice gun. i wouldn't trade it if i were you. have you check out the 45 usp? i dont think the tactical is worth the price unless you're a hardcore hk fan. i have the 45usp.

10-Ring
March 27, 2003, 12:39 AM
I traded my P220 & $$ for my HK USP Expert 45 a couple years. Absolutely the best trade I've ever made! The 220 I had was an absolute lemon (by all accounts, not just my opinion).

New_comer
March 27, 2003, 06:20 AM
They are two of the best guns out there. It's my familiarity in the manual of arms that would swing my vote to the USP, as I'm already at ease with one.

And the possibility of installing a silencer (if legal) that increases the Tactical's desirability.

Just my 2 cents worth... ;)

WhoKnowsWho
March 27, 2003, 09:03 AM
I like my SIG P225, and my HK USP40... I would be really in a spot if I had to choose between the two, but I think I would choose the HK over the SIG to keep. But I would try my hardest to keep both. I liked the 220 I shot too.

KMKeller
March 27, 2003, 09:41 AM
Oddly enough, I have an HK USP .45 Tactical and was considering offering it up for trade for an LNIB Sig P220 Stainless... I reckon I'll just save up my nickels now and have both.

M1911
March 27, 2003, 10:07 AM
If you like the 220, keep it and save up your money. By the HK when you can afford it.

Bobarino
March 27, 2003, 01:48 PM
while i just can't advise giving up one great gun to get another, i think if you save your pennies and get an HK, any HK, it will probably become your favorite shooter with a quickness. there's just something addicting about them and once you've had one, other guns seem like they just aren't as much fun anymore and it becomes the one you can trust your life to. thats been my experience anyway.......

Bobby

incursion
March 27, 2003, 01:52 PM
What are you using the gun for? If you plan to buy a suppressor, then get the USP Tactical. If you plan to carry, keep the SIG 220. Personally, I like the 220 better for an all around gun.

Nathaniel Firethorn
March 27, 2003, 02:19 PM
Have the USP .45 with target trigger and adjustable Meps. That's prolly pretty close to the Tactical. I like it.

- pdmoderator

Sactown
March 27, 2003, 02:27 PM
I have a Sig225 and a USP .40 and have tried a Sig220. My personal preference is for the Sigs. The USP grips do not fit me very well. I find the checkering (if you wanna call those sharp pointy things on the backstrap checkering) starts to annoy my hands during lengthy shooting sessions. The USP is accurate and undeniably reliable, but for long shooting sessions I prefer my Sig or 1911s. I'd keep the Sig and saved those pennies for the HK. If possible, rent a USP45 and run 500rnds through it and see if you like it. The USP45 might be similiar to the Expert in grip shape, but I'm not sure.

Min
March 27, 2003, 02:29 PM
I have a Sig P220 .45 and a HK USP Compact .45. Without a doubt the USP is my preferred gun. I will shoot +P's in the USP without reservation, not so with the P220.

Skunkabilly
March 27, 2003, 03:21 PM
Depends. Most of my friends think it's a sin to sell anything, and only let their gun count increase.

I'll sell guns that I *LIKE* if I can't find a use for it.

If I were in the same boat in another state, I'd ditch the Sig if I thought I'd be shooting the HK more.

Mikul
March 27, 2003, 03:27 PM
I have a serious dislike for DA/SA pistols so I would gladly sell the Sig for the H&K with cocked and locked capability.

OF
March 27, 2003, 03:40 PM
Mikul said it for me. DA/SA is on my list of things I'm not big on.

I still want a P220, though :)

- Gabe

Onslaught
March 27, 2003, 04:08 PM
I find the checkering (if you wanna call those sharp pointy things on the backstrap checkering) starts to annoy my hands during lengthy shooting sessions.
Just a personal observation... I had a USP45 that I sold to buy a USP40 (consolidating calibers... temporary lapse of sanity). I was AMAZED at how sharp and uncomfortable the "serrations" on the grip were. I figured it must be the difference between a KE ('95) model USP and an AA (2000) model USP.

After I decided that I didn't like the USP40 as much as I did the .45, I traded the USP40 for a lightly used USP45, AB(2001) model.... The serrations are mild and comfortable, like my first one! :confused:

I don't usually have a problem selling pistols to buy pistols, but I will not be parting with THIS USP, that's for sure. I love my HK, and it is my all around favorite pistol of all time. I can't carry it, it's too valuable (to me) to carry in my truck or take on a camping trip, so it just stays in the R&D Enterprises Handgun safe between range trips... but it is absolutely, hands down, my favorite pistol I have ever owned!!! :D

zahc
March 27, 2003, 06:48 PM
I don't like the SA trigger creep:( but otherwise, ultimate pistol.

krept
March 28, 2003, 11:21 AM
I'd go with Sig if you like carrying DA w/o safety engaged. I went with the USP because of its ability to be carried in condition 1. Both are great pistols. Also if you have smaller hands you might find the USP is too large to manipulate the controls as fast as you want.

If you don't like the feel of the checkering, why not sand it down a little if it's a keeper or look into AGRIP/Hogue, etc?

cheers

tlhelmer
March 30, 2003, 07:01 PM
I just dont think I can bring myself sell the 220!:eek:

10-Ring
March 30, 2003, 09:41 PM
I just dont think I can bring myself sell the 220!


Sounds like you've answered your own question...don't sell it! If you really want/ need that Tactical, just save yor milk money until you can buy it out right or shop around for a used one in good condition.

Drundel
March 30, 2003, 10:27 PM
Ok what is the reason you want to trade? Not happy with the Sig or just want to try something new?

I've shot both and like both. But the reason I am shopping for an H&K and not a 220 is the H&K will hold up better shooting .450 SMC and .45 Super over the Sig.

I'm sure you know there is no safety on the Sig, thats a personal thing, I carry mine chambered, hammer down, but no safety so the Sigs lack of safety doesn't bother me.

Ala Dan
March 30, 2003, 10:42 PM
Greeting's From An Ole' Friend-

Yes sir, I believe that would be a great big mistake; not
that the H&K isn't a very fine weapon, but I just would
not depart with the world reknown SIG-P220!:uhoh:

If you desire the H&K, may I suggest that you just save
up the cash and purchase it then. Firearms are only going
to get more expensive; therefore if you didn't like the H&K
for some reason, it would cost you more to replace the
SIG P220. Make sense?

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

blades67
March 30, 2003, 11:00 PM
I am thinking about trading my Sig 220 two-tone plus cash for a H&K Tactical. That is if I can find someone to trade or I can sell the 220. Would this be a mistake?

:what:

Yes! That would be a HUGE mistake!

It's your mistake to make I guess.

Yo
March 31, 2003, 01:12 AM
Don't do it.

The HK USP line is very accurate and has nice big sights, but that's about it. I've owned a .45 USP fullsize and a .40 compact.

My .45 broke a firing pin during live fire. The rear half of the pin shot out the back, hitting me in the face. The front half of the pin wedged between the slide and the frame, taking a chunk out of the polymer frame about 1cm square.

The HK has an awful double action pull. LOTs of creep and just TERRIBLE stacking. They've improved it recently, but it really is p*ss-poor compared to the SIG.

The HK has a high bore axis and a lot of muzzle flip. The grip is unnecessarily wide for a 10-rounder.

My Sig 226 fits my hand like a glove and is the only handgun I've owned that has NEVER had a jam or FTF. The HKs are very accurate, but you can get it to stovepipe. Also the chamber is very generous, almost oversize, so if you reload your ammo, the cases soot really badly. Trust me, this gets old after 100 rounds or so. It also contributes to premature wear in the chamber.

Check the web and you'll see that prices on USPs are dropping, and there are a LOT for sale. Reason is they're OK, but nothing great. The tactical is just an overpriced long-slide version with the same fundamental flaws as the basic.

Keep your Sig, save your money. If you want an HK, buy a P7. Now that's a great pistol.

Darrin
March 31, 2003, 08:17 AM
I have a serious dislike for DA/SA pistols I'm the opposite. I'm more comfy with DA/SA.

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