Ohio CHL Fix-it bill to be introduced
Ninj500
September 14, 2005, 04:57 PM
Hopefully changes in the Ohio law are on the way.
http://buckeyefirearms.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2699
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eagle45
September 14, 2005, 05:57 PM
Thanks for posting that link. Rep. Jim Aslanides' bill looks pretty good. It sounds like he has a lot of support for it as well. Maybe between this bill and Rep. Tom Brinkman's we can get the needed improvements passed. Man I hate that 'in plain sight' while in a vehicle. I'd love to see that removed.
Coronach
September 14, 2005, 05:59 PM
As would most of the actual street officers I know. If they're in favor of a CCW system (and the majority are), they think the plain view requirement is silly in conjunction with the requirement to notify.
Mike
makarova
September 14, 2005, 08:18 PM
May I suggest, the patrol car computer should no longer reflect ccw status and police officers may no longer ask about presence of firearms in car during traffic stop without probable cause.
foghornl
September 15, 2005, 08:16 AM
I hope that at least 3 of those things get fixed...
1 the "Plain sight while in car" thing
2 Pre-emption of ALL local laws & regs
3 Close the MEDIA ACCESS LOOPHOLE
one other I would like to see, but I know is A.H. { "ain't happening" } is that anyone named Taft from Ohio cannot ever hold elected office. :evil: :evil:
Nazirite
September 15, 2005, 08:28 AM
I wonder what the odds are this bill passes with just a few of the improvements. I’m guessing 10 to 1.
OH25shooter
September 15, 2005, 08:59 AM
Oh-No...this seems to make some sense. Can this be happening in the Buckeye state? Hide it from Gov. Taft and his traffic enforcer troopers, the Ohio Highway Patrol.
Ninj500
September 15, 2005, 05:35 PM
We can hope it will pass. Keep an eye on our website, BuckeyeFirearms.com for updates. I will also post them here as they come up.
Gerard
Buckeye Firearms Association
Central Ohio Chair
Gray Peterson
September 16, 2005, 02:21 AM
The only thing I don't like about this bill is a requirement that licensees be US Citizens. It could result in the whole bill getting tossed by a court.
Standing Wolf
September 16, 2005, 11:09 PM
The only thing I don't like about this bill is a requirement that licensees be US Citizens. It could result in the whole bill getting tossed by a court.
Legal immigrants with legitimate green cars need to be issued permits, as well.
Ryder
September 16, 2005, 11:53 PM
No mention of rest areas. As long as rest areas remain criminal empowerment zones I'll continue using Indiana for my travels South. The rest of these issues meant nothing to me.
1911 guy
September 17, 2005, 02:04 AM
A valid point was made that a court may toss this much needed improvement bill because it stipulates citizenship. Very sad state of affairs when we must cater to those from the outside while those from home get the shaft. As far as the greencard issue, I can agree with it as long as their home country allows them to own a handgun. If you want to come here to take advantage of rights now recognized in your country, welcome to America. But no freeloading! Become a citizen!
eagle45
September 17, 2005, 08:23 AM
The rest of these issues meant nothing to me.
:rolleyes:
This kind of support is well, shall we say underwhelming.
Flyboy
September 17, 2005, 12:04 PM
If you want to come here to take advantage of rights now recognized in your country, welcome to America. But no freeloading! Become a citizen!
That's the whole point of the green card: it's part of the process of becoming a citizen. Unfortunately, the process takes (considerable) time.
Standing Wolf
September 17, 2005, 09:20 PM
Unfortunately, the process takes (considerable) time.
I've to disagree. Citizenship is something that should be earned, not picked up like a six-pack of beer on the way home from work.
dpesec
September 17, 2005, 09:50 PM
Standing Wolf,
It's part of the process. I have a friend who was born in Berlin, Germany. She's applying to become a LA police officer. She's in the process of becoming as US Citizen.
Flyboy
September 18, 2005, 12:46 AM
Standing Wolf:
I didn't mean that it's unfortunate that the process takes time, but that to deny somebody his rights until that time goes by is unfortunate. I can see where I was unclear.
As I've stated innumerable times, I tend toward the view that the rights in question belong to everybody, not just citizens, but for this discussion, I think the green card is pretty good evidence that he intends to become a citizen, and should be allowed to enjoy his rights as any citizen would.
1911 guy
September 19, 2005, 12:16 AM
I'm not familiar with the legal process of becoming a citizen, but reading what you who know more than I on the subjuct leads me to think we share the same opinion. If someone has come here and is in process to become a citizen they should not be treated as second class people just because the red tape and legal process takes time.
Ninj500
September 20, 2005, 03:56 PM
The bill is now officially introduced.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2707
Ninj500
September 20, 2005, 04:56 PM
Yet another piece of information about the bill:
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2708
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