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LCConrad
September 16, 2005, 05:48 PM
I am employed at a gun store on the west coast, we have experienced a large increase in gun sales since the Katrina aftermath in New Orleans. It is amazing how many people had their eyes opened to the fact that they may have to depend upon their own resources and not be completely protected by Uncle Sugar. Hopefully most places would have a better response than the state of Louisiana did in this case.

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J Miller
September 16, 2005, 05:59 PM
Yep, the gun buying frenzy after 9-11 came and went too. You'll be getting a lot of those guns back in the future. Just as soon as the buyers forget about Katrina and N.O.

Joe

Fudgie Ghost
September 16, 2005, 08:54 PM
Went to my indoor range to renew my membership today. The owner is also a dealer, as well as running as security company. He said he is selling a ton of guns--but it seems to have pre-dated Katrina. He said "everyone is buying guns. . . " And this is in southern Westchester (NY) county. Ground zero of soccer moms and the like.

NMshooter
September 16, 2005, 09:46 PM
Lot of folks who purchased firearms for Y2K were not happy when afterwards they brought them back and expected a full refund... :rolleyes:

Even the ones we told repeatedly that once it goes out the door it is used.

Standing Wolf
September 16, 2005, 10:39 PM
...we have experienced a large increase in gun sales since the Katrina aftermath in New Orleans.

I like good news. The more armed law-abiding Americans, the more difficult it becomes for the leftist extremists to disarm us.

Hawkmoon
September 16, 2005, 10:42 PM
Yep, the gun buying frenzy after 9-11 came and went too.
Poor folks didn't know who to believe. First the gummint told them you could shoot down an airliner with a personal weapon, so they bought one. Then they heard from the neighborhood gun nut that you CAN'T shoot down an airplane with a Glock and they felt they'd been cheated.

22-rimfire
September 17, 2005, 12:54 AM
The New Orleans (NO) hurricane experience is a bit different from other disasters. This one was made by nature and man was pretty helpless to deal with it promptly. I don't live along the coast, but this whole NO experience raises to the surface the fact that our government can not and will not protect you. This is reality sinking in for many many more people. It doesn't help much after you are robbed, beaten, killed or otherwise hurt that the military comes riding in like the lone ranger to save the day. You have to plan on a good week of "you're on your own" because you are.

GRIFFIN1
September 17, 2005, 01:17 AM
I'm in the north-west part of Lousiana. I went to the local indoor gun range last weekend, and they were very busy. The thing that worried me was that the clips that hold the paper targets had been shot off at least half the hangers. I had my choice of masking tape or clothes pins to hold the targets to the frame. The scarry part is that the clips are 90% protected by some heavy duty angle iron, so it isn't easy to hit the clip.

22-rimfire
September 17, 2005, 10:48 AM
You saying that folks can shoot? Maybe their aiming for the target clips and are too cheap to buy extra targets or make your own. :)

I like to see the ranges busy. That means there will likely be more of them in the future. With urban sprawl, outdoor ranges are getting squeezed out by complaints from home owners nearby or simply the property taxes keep going up and forces them to close shop.

AirForceShooter
September 17, 2005, 11:15 AM
Fudgie:
I used to be Yonkers. Now florida, the GunShine State.

The LEO's go nuts issuing permits? When I was there you had to know God to get a permit.

AFS

silverlance
September 17, 2005, 11:23 AM
cool! i hope people rush to buy and then rush to sell a bunch of 1911s and skses... =)

utahminirevolver
September 17, 2005, 12:15 PM
About working in a gun store: do you get an employee discount? Are they hiring?

NMshooter
September 17, 2005, 05:13 PM
Working in a gunshop is a labor of love, or a sign of latent masochism, maybe even both... :neener:

Low pay, long hours, watching the owner sell stuff to his buddies at lower prices than you could get, oh I could go on...

If you are very lucky you might find a local gunshop that welcomes you in like family and treats you decently but even the owner will never become wealthy.

The firearms industry is the sort of thing you get involved with because you honestly enjoy it despite its numerous shortcomings.

As bad as it was at times there were other times that I would not have traded for the world.

:)

beaucoup ammo
September 17, 2005, 05:59 PM
Does anyone know how to get the ball rolling on obtaining one (FFL)? I'm retired, love guns and need extra money.

Some of the $20 kits offered on the net seem questionable. Should I just call up the BTAF..or what would you suggest?

Thanks

Wags
September 17, 2005, 07:14 PM
Fantastic news that Katrina has opened the eyes of the blind. We can thank the news media for this surge in purchases. They help more than they know which we find isn't much. Back in 1994 with the the "Assault Weapons" ban we can thank Bill Clinton. He was the best firearms salesman of all time!

Sir Aardvark
September 17, 2005, 07:49 PM
I have had 3 people who are anti-gun ask me for recommendations on what to get for self-defense since the Katrina/New Orleans debacle.

My recommendations:

S&W .38/.357 Mag revolver and/or Remington 870 12 gauge - along with the training necessary to not become a menace themselves.

Andrew Rothman
September 17, 2005, 07:57 PM
As I understand it, the best way to make a small fortune as a gun shop owner...

...is to start with a LARGE fortune.

atomchaser
September 17, 2005, 08:51 PM
Hey AirForceShooter-

Were are you in Central FL? I'm stationed at Patrick.

chaim
September 18, 2005, 10:57 AM
After watching the aftermath of Katrina on TV I was talking to my very anti-gun father and telling him that every household really needs a shotgun. I used the argument that even he had to agree (and he did) that a gun in that kind of situation is useful. I then pointed out that you need to plan in advance and that if facing that situation you won't easily be able to go out and buy a gun. He of course argued that it isn't likely something like that would happen here, but I think he understood what I was saying.

I told him I'd soon be buying a shotgun for him and my mother and that I expect them to practice with it. A little more talk and I did come to the realization that a heavy recoiling shotgun probably isn't a great idea for a total non-shooter like my mom and someone who hasn't shot since adolescence like my dad. So I decided I'd be getting them a pistol caliber carbine. Well, my dad did not like that idea one bit (I don't think that it helped that I used those SCCAAARRRYYY words "three fifty seven magnum" lever rifle). However, he did say that he might consider keeping a .22lr......Hey, its a start.

akodo
September 18, 2005, 05:19 PM
it's funny how certain terms are frightening to those not in the gun world, and 357 magnum is one of those terms that conjuers up images of a bullet that can fell an elephant and cause oyur 16 year old daugher to get pregnant all at the same time.

for a 'pistol carbine' that is less 'scary' you cannot go wrong with a 45 long colt chambering, and when you factor in light cowboy loads as well as some o those real hum-dinger hunter loads you can buy, you've got your bases covered.

Or see if oyu can scare up an old marlin "camp carbine" no scrarry name there, and it has less of an 'evil black rifle of doom' look than the nearly identical ruger carbine.

Some gun company should come up with a gun called 'peace and love' so the name doesn;t scare those how scare easily

Fudgie Ghost
September 18, 2005, 05:19 PM
AirForce Shooter: Well, as you know, permits are "restricted" in WC. Still are, and there's still is a bit of paperwork to get one: (4) references, must take 5 hour safety course, no record (duh!)--most civilians are restricted to "target and hunting", but that restriction has no basis in the state law--as I understand it, violating that is not even a misdemeanor---but an administrative violation. You'd most likely lose your permit, but that's it. (Providing you hadn't violated any laws as well. . ) First time permit applications still take about 6--8 weeks to process.

My range owner (former Mt. Vernon PO)offers new applicants a deal whereby he gives the 5 hour class, plus fills out all your paperwork, except the references, and submits it for your for $150.00. I guess that's a good deal for the paperwork challenged, but I didn't find it that big a deal. Course that was in the 80's.

Anyway, the real pain, is of course, you have to have your permit "amended" every time you buy, or sell, one of your handguns, since NYS registers them. However, my range owner tells me that this process is only taking about (2) weeks. (Except in summer, when many of the admin. judges take vacation.) My last amendment took about (6) weeks--that was 2 years ago. WC has gotten more organized--permits are computerized, with digital pics, and a digital thumbprint on the permits as well. So, it's still a pain, but it's a more organized pain-- if that makes sense. No doubt if NYS didn't make you amend your permits, I would own several more pistols than I do now, or at least would have tried more (bought then sold).

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