Oakland trying to avoid that 'war zone' look


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Drizzt
March 27, 2003, 06:30 PM
Oakland trying to avoid that 'war zone' look
Ban on metal bars, roll-down doors considered

Janine DeFao, Chronicle Staff Writer Wednesday, March 26, 2003

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Barbed wire and metal bars make Oakland's business districts look like war zones, say city officials who want to outlaw exterior security devices that they claim are not only ugly but ineffective.

"It gives a sense that our community is not a very safe city," said City Manager Robert Bobb, who has made fighting blight a top priority. "We believe there are alternatives for securing their businesses."

A City Council committee backed a plan Tuesday to prohibit barbed wire fences in commercial districts but stopped short of supporting a more far- reaching proposal to eliminate burglar bars, roll-down doors and retractable security gates, common fixtures throughout the city.

City officials said they believe Oakland is the first city in the Bay Area to consider such a law, although Santa Monica has banned barbed wire.

Such devices "tend to exaggerate the perception of an unsafe area or war zone," said city building services director Calvin Wong.

Some council members questioned whether the city can afford to launch a new program when it faces a projected $30 million deficit for the coming fiscal year. And small business owners say crime is not merely a perception but a reality in many neighborhoods.

"There is a lot of crime in Oakland. Who's trying to kid who?" Josefina Lopez, owner of Corazon Del Pueblo, said at her Mexican imports store and art gallery on International Boulevard, near High Street.

"Come out here at 10 o'clock at night, you're going to find another planet. The prostitutes come out, the pimps come out, the street people come out."

When riots broke out after the Super Bowl in January, Lopez watched from her store as vandals and looters broke nearly every window of the Kelly-Moore Paint store across the street. Her shop, with a wrought-iron gate in front of its doors and metal roll-down doors over the windows, escaped unharmed.

"Had I not had those roll-down windows, I would have been as vulnerable," said Lopez, who spent $85,000 last year, including a $32,000 city grant, to fix up her storefront.

Dan Tran, owner of Thien Loi Hoa Supermarket in the Eastlake district near Lake Merritt, told the council that he had been burglarized three times in three months before installing a roll-down door.

"It saved me thousands of dollars," he said. "I feel safe with a roll-up gate door."

Several council members said they understand the concerns of small-business owners. They said they won't consider a ban on such security devices before knowing how much financial assistance the city could provide to merchants to make changes and whether more aesthetically pleasing security measures, such as break-resistant glass, are effective. Under the proposal, store owners could mount bars and grilles inside their windows.

Chuong Khac Nguyen, an organizer with the East Bay Asian Local Development Corporation who works with Eastlake merchants, said he agrees that some of the security devices are ugly and could be moved inside.

But "it already cost them a lot to put them outside," he said. "We should not do it right away. We need more time to educate the merchants."

Councilman Henry Chang said store owners don't put in such devices "unless they've been hit many times and don't think they can run their business without it." He questioned whether burglar alarms are effective, saying intruders can get in and out before police arrive.

Wong said 43 percent of the 2,610 businesses in Oakland's 15 neighborhood commercial revitalization districts -- including International and MacArthur boulevards and San Pablo and Telegraph avenues -- use some type of exterior- mounted security gates, grilles, bars and doors.

Many have been installed without permits and could violate building codes by blocking exits and sidewalks, he said.

Such devices discourage customers and new businesses from moving in and degrade property values without stopping break-ins, Wong said.

The law would also apply downtown, where 120 of 460 storefronts have security devices outside.

Wong and Bobb had proposed educational outreach and monetary incentives for shops to upgrade security through existing funds for neighborhood business districts, but council members questioned how far the money would stretch, pointing out that the city is bracing for deep cuts come July.

The community and economic development committee did agree to a ban on barbed and razor wire, which Wong said can be easily scaled simply by using a jacket to cover the barbs.

"How our city looks and how welcoming it is to pedestrians and people driving by is critical," said Councilwoman Jane Brunner, who said she might support a ban on future installation of gates and bars, but not on those already in place.

If the full council approves the barbed wire ban in two weeks, an ordinance would be considered in July.

If barbed wire is outlawed, Richard Lau said he will have no choice but to take down the circles of sharp wire surrounding his E. 14th Auto Service Body Shop on International Boulevard.

Before he put it up five years ago, he was burglarized weekly, he said. Now,

someone breaks in every other month to steal radial tires and other goods.

"It's no use to call the police. They say, 'Call your insurance company,' " Lau said.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/03/26/MN43119.DTL

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Standing Wolf
March 27, 2003, 08:27 PM
Such devices "tend to exaggerate the perception of an unsafe area or war zone," said city building services director Calvin Wong.

In Oakland's case, there's no way to exaggerate the dangers posed by criminals.

Pendragon
March 27, 2003, 08:45 PM
The reason CA is in such a crunch is that they are doing everything they can to make it hard to operate a business here.

UnknownSailor
March 27, 2003, 08:56 PM
Typical. Address the sypmtoms of crime, not the cause.

Did these pinheads ever stop to wonder why these shop owners feel the need to put this stuff on their store! Like, maybe, so they have something left to come back to, when they return in the morning!

Thank God, the only time I will ever go back to Kalifornia is while I'm on det.

10-Ring
March 27, 2003, 09:27 PM
Man, hear or read stories about Oakland and I get home sick!

seeker_two
March 27, 2003, 10:24 PM
A City Council committee backed a plan Tuesday to prohibit barbed wire fences in commercial districts but stopped short of supporting a more far- reaching proposal to eliminate burglar bars, roll-down doors and retractable security gates, common fixtures throughout the city.

Why not make burglary illegal?...:rolleyes:

Or better yet, make owning a business in Oakland illegal. If this passes, it'll have the same effect...:banghead:

Standing Wolf
March 27, 2003, 10:50 PM
Why not make burglary illegal?

And alienate a significant portion of Red Davis' esteemed supporters?

Blackhawk
March 27, 2003, 11:12 PM
Things are what they are.

Lipstick, a ribbon, and a high falutin' name still doesn't change the fact that Miss Piggy is a puppet of a sow.

CZ-75
March 27, 2003, 11:30 PM
Oakland trying to avoid that 'war zone' look


STOP ELECTING DEMOKRATS THEN!!! :rolleyes:



I love the barbed wire ban. Do it "for the children." Evil "assault wire."

I wonder how ugly a bunch of empty shops and burned out buildings would be, should they pass these silly ordnances.

Mayor Moonbeam has a plan. :neener:

hansolo
March 27, 2003, 11:41 PM
Santa Monica bans barbed wire

Good! Personally, I prefer to watch a BG struggle against Razor Wire....it's so much more amusing! :neener:

QuarterBoreGunner
March 28, 2003, 12:09 AM
As I contemplate the beautiful waters of the bay and watch the moon rise in the east… I think upon the many wonderful things that San Francisco has within it- and yet I’m troubled by the seeming idiocy of it’s political leadership… but I find solace in the simple fact…

That I don’t live in Oakland.

Wildalaska
March 28, 2003, 02:06 AM
California is a war zone, I for one am glad I am far away fromn there...

WildsafeinAlaska

Pendragon
March 28, 2003, 03:34 AM
98% of Northern CA is most definately NOT a "Warzone"

Its a beautiful place with incredible weather.

My theory is that the liberals tend to congregate in places with good weather because they tend to be human veal calves and like the easy life.

Maybe it does not explain Chicago and New York, but its certainly true here.

Alaska as a state never had much use for the milquetoast panty waist types...

Coincidence?

S_O_Laban
March 28, 2003, 03:52 AM
quote:Such devices discourage customers and new businesses from moving in and degrade property values without stopping break-ins, Wong said.

Me thinks Wong is WRONG:fire:

Jim March
March 28, 2003, 05:33 AM
Paraphrasing Standing Wolf:

"In Oakland's case, there's no way to exaggerate the dangers posed by the OAKLAND POLICE DEPARTMENT."

You think I'm kidding?

http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/oaklandzen.html

Then go to google and punch in:

Oakland Riders Police Scandal

It's one giant mess :barf:.

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