from what i've seen on the marvel website that looks like the "unit 1." What about "unit 2?" i think the difference is that the unit 1 has a fixed barrel where the unit 2 works off the browning-style link and pin
is one better than the other? I think i would rather get the non-fixed barrel version, just to stay as close to .45 style operation as possible.
September 20, 2005, 12:22 PM
I've had this Ciener top end on a dedicated alloy frame for over 10 years.
Makes for a very fun shooter!!
The Marvel kit is made just down the road from where I'm at right now, and lots of local folks really like them. But... both the Marvel and Ciener kits have one minor shortfall (IMO). They don't have a last shot slide hold open capability.
You may want to check out www.advantagearms.com or www.jarvis-custom.com before writing a check.
September 20, 2005, 12:43 PM
thanks for the suggestions, joe
i read a review of the marvel and ciener in gun-tests and they noted that the slide does not lock open after the last round. something i'll just have to live with.
September 20, 2005, 02:09 PM
At least in Bullseye circles, the Marvel is considered heads and shoulders above the Ciener...accuracy and reliability, especially in feeding
I *think* the Kimber IS a re-branded Ciener.
September 20, 2005, 06:13 PM
I ahve tried several units. My asseesment is as follows:
Ceiner/Kimber - a plinker
Marvel - superb accuracy, slide does not stay open after last round
Jarvis - quite accurate, fixed sights are dead on, only functions with HV ammo
Colt - plinker and relaibility problems caused by need to clean floating chamber.
Hope this helps.
September 20, 2005, 06:18 PM
I think Kimber is making their own now.
I shoot a Colt Ace - had a floating chamber conversion once but got tired of changing the bits around - and it is really pretty reliable. It is not as accurate as the better aluminum conversions but it feels like the gun I use it to warm up for.
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