Pic request: Sig P220 - Overall grip width


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Amadeus
September 20, 2005, 03:56 PM
If my Kimber doesn't get its act together soon it may turn into a p220. But first I want to know how the P220 compares in width to my 1911. Could someone please post some pics of their P220 that show the grip and slide width of the P220? If you have a side by side comparison with a 1911 that would be even better. Thanks.

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MikeK
September 20, 2005, 05:55 PM
Ask and you shall receive: Hogue grips on the SIG - They're wider than stock and some others.

Amadeus
September 21, 2005, 01:14 PM
Thank you MikeK. You are what the High Road is about.

That is one thick Sig. Not too much more than the 1911. But certainly looks bulkier.

Maybe not the bets gun for concealed carry.

HighVelocity
September 21, 2005, 01:23 PM
Maybe not the bets gun for concealed carry.

Those hogue grips are thick and sticky. I find it no more difficult to conceal (with factory grips) my 220 than a full size 1911. In fact, my 220 is lighter than my Kimber.
Tomorrow when I am home I'll weigh each one loaded and post what the actual difference is.

Amadeus
September 21, 2005, 02:49 PM
Cool. I look forward to those weight stats.

The challenge is that I would be transitioning from a Kimber Pro Carry (commander size) to a full size p220.

I am also considering the possibility of stepping down to a p229 in 9mm.

HighVelocity
September 21, 2005, 02:52 PM
Have you looked at the Sig P245? It's basically a chopped 220. Might be more to your liking since you're switching from a compact 1911.

Amadeus
September 21, 2005, 03:23 PM
I had considered the 245. But I was worried the grip might be too short. My pinky likes having a place to go.

usp_fan
September 21, 2005, 03:33 PM
The other thing to think about is reach to the trigger. I love the 220, but unless sig makes the short trigger for it, I can't fire one in double action mode properly.

Just an fyi,

--usp_fan

Amadeus
September 21, 2005, 03:39 PM
Thanks, USPfan. Good to know. That may be a deciding factor.

Having researched a bit I think the 1911 may stay in the collection. But it won't be more than a safe queen. It's finnicky. For serious social work I will probably go with my Beretta.

Tokugawa
September 21, 2005, 05:08 PM
The 220 is thinner in the grip than the double stack 9mm's like the 226.

nero45acp
September 21, 2005, 06:30 PM
Why not cobsider a P239 in 9mm, .40 S&W, or .357 SIG. I believe that the P239's width is less than the P220, and it should be easier to conceal than either a 1911, or a P220.

http://www.sigarms.com/products/classicpersonalsize-models.asp?product_id=43


nero

Amadeus
September 21, 2005, 07:06 PM
Why not cobsider a P239 in 9mm, .40 S&W, or .357 SIG.

Good suggestion, and an option I examined. But I did not like the feel of the 239. Did not sit right for me.

Dienekes
September 21, 2005, 11:22 PM
I think SIG now has a short trigger for the 220. I modified my stock one to essentially the same thing. It helped (I have a smallish hand) but in the end the 1911 fits me and the 220 does not. Some people don't mind the DA/SA switch--I have a friend who shoots the 220 extremely well--but I do not. Also the bore axis is noticeably higher than the 1911. All of which makes my 220 a hangar queen.

My semiauto "needs" are covered by the 1911 and BHP these days. Full circle as I first became acquainted with them circa 1960.

9mmepiphany
September 22, 2005, 03:09 AM
the "full sized" sig IS commander sized.

to get to the size of a GM 1911, you'd have to get a X-five

HighVelocity
September 22, 2005, 10:26 AM
As promised, I weighed the guns this morning and this is what I came up with:

Kimber Full Size loaded with 8rds 230gr ammo: 2lbs 14.1 oz
Sig P220 loaded with 8rds 230gr ammo:2lbs 4.8oz

Thrown in for the heck of it..

Sig P245 loaded with 6rds 230gr ammo: 2lbs 1.3 oz

I used a small sunbeam digital scale and the ammo was WWB if that matters to anyone.

Marshall
September 22, 2005, 12:44 PM
Pretty sharp carry piece, but if it doesn't fit you then it's no good.


http://www.sigarms.com/apps/cmt/img/p239-sas-large.jpg

hnm201
September 22, 2005, 12:50 PM
Kimber Full Size loaded with 8rds 230gr ammo: 2lbs 14.1 oz
Sig P220 loaded with 8rds 230gr ammo:2lbs 4.8oz

Weight of loaded Glock 21 with 14 Rounds of 230gr Golden Saber ammo: 2lbs 8.3oz

:neener:

VG
September 22, 2005, 01:14 PM
If you don't like the P239 try the P225, it's a little bigger. Couple more comparos with a military-size M1911A1, CZ85, and S&W 3913.

The P220 is a terrific pistol but the S&W 3913 is one of those "sweet spots".

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