Anybody see the Taurus .500 magnum in 2.25 in barrel?


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glockrock
September 20, 2005, 09:44 PM
WOW!!! :eek:

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Preacherman
September 20, 2005, 10:16 PM
Hmmm... Normally I abhor porting on snubbies, but for this one, I think I'll make an exception! :D


http://www.taurususa.com/imagesMain/H_500MSS2.jpg

Alex45ACP
September 20, 2005, 10:17 PM
:what: And I think the recoil on a 642 is heavy :uhoh:

mtnbkr
September 20, 2005, 10:30 PM
I'll have to keep an eye out for one of those "fired once" deals once those hit the market. I shot a 4" S&W 500 the other night and rather enjoyed the experience. Not enough to pay $700+ for a revolver, but I enjoyed it.

Chris

Azrael256
September 20, 2005, 10:34 PM
Wow. Just... wow. That, I must say, is the craziest thing I have ever seen. I assume it comes with some sort of homing beacon so you can find it in the parking lot.

RRTX
September 20, 2005, 10:35 PM
That little thing weighs more than the 4" S&W, the smith is 56oz and the taurus is 68oz. It's only 4.5oz shy of the 8" S&W

GregGry
September 20, 2005, 10:55 PM
I have found a new CCW peice.. :evil:

roo_ster
September 20, 2005, 11:12 PM
I can see Joe Piscopo with that one, "It's an .88 Magnum. It shoots through schools."

Standing Wolf
September 20, 2005, 11:16 PM
Taurus makes a gun that's less ugly than Smith & Wesson? Amazing!

rallyhound
September 20, 2005, 11:17 PM
I guess i'll get a taurus 500 for me and a girly 454 alaskan for the misses.

oneslowgun
September 20, 2005, 11:20 PM
That looks like it has FUN written all over it :D

GregGry
September 21, 2005, 06:52 AM
I can see Joe Piscopo with that one, "It's an .88 Magnum. It shoots through schools." Seriously, what is that from? I heard a sound clip on the net a long time ago, it went "dun dun dun" and a guys voice came on and sais "its an 88 magnum..... It shoots through schools". I was lost as to what movie that was from, and what the hell a 88 magnum is :what: .

Also, does anyone have a 1 to 1 scale picture of that beast? I want to see if it would come close to fitting my hand..

280PLUS
September 21, 2005, 08:11 AM
He's gotta see this!

:D

He's responsible for getting me hooked on them 500s. I shot the 8" barrel one he had and, while I wouldn't shoot it all day, I thought the recoil was acceptable. I think the lightweight .357 snubbie hurts more. The hot rounds in the 500 do make a nice "CRACK" when they go off. :eek: I did manage to pull one 10 ring at ~25 yds with it. Don't ask me where the rest went. :D

If it's nearly as heavy as the 8" model it shouldn't be too bad. The hardest part of shooting the 8" was holding it up on target!

Bruce H
September 21, 2005, 08:47 AM
I have a 415 Taurus like this in .41mag. If the 500 acts like the .41 everybody will be disappointed when it doesn't flip out of their hand and bounce off twenty people behind them. :D Other than the noise associated with ports these are a joy to shoot.

cap811
September 21, 2005, 08:50 AM
"Johnny Dangerously"
Seriously, what is that from? I heard a sound clip on the net a long time ago, it went "dun dun dun" and a guys voice came on and sais "its an 88 magnum..... It shoots through schools". I was lost as to what movie that was from, and what the hell a 88 magnum is .

cortez kid
September 21, 2005, 08:58 AM
The four inch 500 has more of a concussion than a recoil. You feel it all over your body. I couldn't imagine what would happen with a 2". I wanted 280PLUS to feel the crack of the 8" because it's the worst of the bunch-he he. :evil:
It's kind of like a guy with a new sound system. First thing he wants to do is show how loud it gets. The thing about 280PLUS that got me upset was the way he took my mod64 and cross shot sideways to my .38 target and nailed all of them. My wife actually thought I was shooting better. :cuss: 280, I've been practising
That Taurus looks mitey nice. I would like to shoot a few through it. Got a bad taste for Taurus over a little semi auto I have, but I think I'd take a chance on that one!
kid

GunGoBoom
September 21, 2005, 10:09 AM
Good; I've been thinking of getting a new CCW gun. :neener:

armoredman
September 21, 2005, 10:11 AM
If that half inch wide bullet misses, the shockwave and fireball will eliminate the intended target....
I would love to see this fired at night.

enfield303
September 21, 2005, 10:43 AM
BLOODY HELL!!! All it's missing is a hook under the barrel. You know, to hang a cinder block from....

HighVelocity
September 21, 2005, 10:48 AM
I'm going to wait for the Ti version to come out. :neener:

pauli
September 21, 2005, 11:21 AM
"fireball. it needs more fireball."

halvey
September 21, 2005, 11:53 AM
I'd get the Smith and shorten the barrel to 1.75". :evil: Lighter and still stronger than the Taurus!

rick_reno
September 21, 2005, 11:57 AM
Does it come with a wagon?

Master Blaster
September 21, 2005, 01:30 PM
Well it will be easy to spot the guy that owns one at the range.

He will be the man with no eyebrows or eyelashes, and a big pink singe mark on the tip of his nose.

Just make sure that the ceiling at the range is not made of any flamable material. :eek:

The gun has a hang tag on it that says: WARNING DO NOT SET YOUR CLOTHES ON FIRE.

Working Man
September 21, 2005, 03:45 PM
I assume it comes with some sort of homing beacon so you can find it in the parking lot.

Now that, is funny. :D

SB88LX
September 21, 2005, 05:12 PM
Taboo question, but whats the point of going that short with a 500 s&w? How much energy does the bullet lose from such a short barrel?








Doesn't mean I wouldn't add it to the collection just because :D

280PLUS
September 21, 2005, 06:35 PM
I don't know man, I think I mighta got a bit of a twitch off that thing. My scores have been down a bit :p

Anyone know what the retail is on them? I'd love to try one. We can start back at the mild loads. :D

280PLUS
September 22, 2005, 07:25 AM
Yea but don't ya still want to shoot one, just once? (more if you like it):evil:

OOps, I'm fooling around and missed a serious question. I think the point of th short barrel is that it won't be so barrel heavy, it will (hopefully) be more balanced to the rear. Honestly, that 8" S&W is not as bad as one would think but the barrel drags the front sights down. If the gun is only 4.5 oz less and the port works, it might not be a bad last chance bear kind of a gun. I doubt you could get an 8' up to bear on a bear ( :p ) if you only had a split second. The 4" might be better but a 2", hmmmm...

Brad Johnson
September 22, 2005, 03:55 PM
2.25 my aunt Annie's fanny! If the pic is correct, then the barrel length is being GROSSLY misrepresented.

I used the cylinder length as a guide. Using a set of calipers against the screen I find that the cylinder is almost exactly the same length as the length of the barrel from muzzle to frame juncture, and the amount of barrel from the frame joint to the cylinder face is roughly half the length of the cylinder. If the cylinder cannot be shorter than 2.32" (the OAL for the 500 S&W), that means the barrel can be no shorter than about 3.5".

Brad

280PLUS
September 22, 2005, 04:55 PM
Hmmmm, you may be right! Good snag!

bad LT
September 22, 2005, 05:24 PM
It is the SUPER SNUBBY

MrTuffPaws
September 22, 2005, 06:00 PM
Ha, I better their 28 ounce 44MUILTI has more recoil than that thing.

BluesBear
September 23, 2005, 08:55 AM
And this is from a company that refuses to put a barrel shorter than 2" on a .41 magnum.
:confused:

gvass
September 23, 2005, 08:57 AM
"than 2.32" (the OAL for the 500 S&W), that means the barrel can be no shorter than about 3.5"."

They probably do not count the compensator-section, which is often not rifled and overbored on Taurus revolvers.

Brad Johnson
September 23, 2005, 02:22 PM
They probably do not count the compensator-section, which is often not rifled and overbored on Taurus revolvers.

Good point. Didn't consider that...

Brad

280PLUS
September 23, 2005, 03:53 PM
Yup, I thought about that later but forgot to come back and mention it.

mbartel
September 23, 2005, 04:27 PM
Truth is.....at least according to the taurus photos....the Raging Bull does indeed have a cylinder shorter than the X frame 500. Which makes me wonder why this particular Raging Bull has taken over a year to develop and bring to the market. Taurus usually brings out new this...and new that, on a regular basis. Since they already knew the specs on the Smith....they didn't have to do all the initial prototype design work like S&W did. They already had the Raging Bull design....just supersize it....just seems like it is taking them a long time to get it right...all the while they are losing ground to S&W in sales.

BluesBear
September 24, 2005, 06:35 AM
just seems like it is taking them a long time to get it right What with their smaller IB 9mm & .17 revolvers, the PT1911, The Gaucho Single Action, the Thunderbolt rifle and other new models announced one ciould say that Taurus already has a full plate.

They had to suspend production of their five shot big bore revolvers in order to have enough manufacturing capacity to keep up.

At least Taurus is trying to bring products that people actually want to the market. And doing it at a price that is actually affordable.

And since when is trying to get it right a bad thing?

cortez kid
September 24, 2005, 10:31 AM
To be honest, with the low quality stuff taurus puts out(i own one), I would be nervous about owning this one. I'd still like to shot one though.
kid

mbartel
September 24, 2005, 12:16 PM
I never said or implied that Taurus was doing a bad thing by getting it right...
just that it seems to be taking them a long time (for them) to get it on the market. I spoke to a customer service rep a few times since the summer of last year and was told on each occasion (several months between calls) that the 500 Raging Bull would be out in the early spring of 2005. Maybe they are using some of Ruger's marketing tactics to keep people's interest up. But considering the huge success of the .500 magnum cartridge and handguns, I am surprised the Taurus folks haven't focused their efforts on a proven commodity and grabbed a piece of the pie. Lord knows...we certainly need another 1911 clone on the market... (PT-1911). You can't expect people to be satisfied with only 10,000 variations of the same basic platform.

280PLUS
September 24, 2005, 12:51 PM
Kid, You and I BOTH know you'd never be satisfied with one shot... :evil:

What were them chips? "Betcha can't eat just one!"

Maybe we'll wait till a few others get around and see if any of them blow up... :eek:

:p

pezo
September 24, 2005, 04:26 PM
this is insane. when will it stop. (I'm getting an alaskan :) ) after they come out "barrel less" . the rebirth of the big bore pepper box.

absolute0
September 25, 2005, 07:48 PM
No thank you.

I'll just slam my hand in the car door instead and call 'er good.......

trickyasafox
September 25, 2005, 09:27 PM
i think the 88 magnum quote is from johnny dangerously

http://www.uselessmoviequotes.com/umq_j002.htm

JMag
September 25, 2005, 09:40 PM
I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that thing when it went off...

GunGoBoom
September 26, 2005, 12:22 AM
Hmmm, funny thing about that barrel length issue.

My Taurus RB in .454 casull is held out to have a 5.0" barrel. Yet this 5 inches DOES include the compensator section. It's really a 3.9 or 4" plus the overbore part. So I find it odd that they wouldn't calculate in the same manner on another model. In fact, wth? I don't think there even IS an overbore/compensator section on the 4410s, looking at the pics. But you are correct. There's no way that thing isn't longer than 2.25". Hrmmmm. Actually, it looks to me like the barrel length is between 2.50 and 2.75", and a smidge closer to 2.75. But not 2.25.

http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=4410TKR-2SS&category=Revolver

And please elucidate as to what is the dumbest thing ever - you mean the 4410 guns or the snubbie .500? I might agree with you on the snubbie .500, but I like the 4410 - it could have a niche as a snake specialist, or more commonly perhaps, a defensive gun when the UTMOST concern is avoiding overpenetration, such as say, office defense in an office building where there are thin walls and a daycare next door, used with birdshot. I know, not an effective manstopper, but if your UTMOST concern is overpenetration, then by definition the stopping power of the gun is of a lesser concern, and tradeoffs must *always* be made.

And oh yeah, c'mon Taurus, give us a no-barrel/pepperbox .500 - THAT would be the ultimate. :neener:

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