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go_fish
September 22, 2005, 07:22 PM
I am starting to gather info for a purchase of a 9mm or possibly a 40cal. Besides personal preferences, and just sticking to features or quality, can you go wrong with an XD? I am not as familiar with the XD line.

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Marshall
September 22, 2005, 07:58 PM
There are a ton of threads about the XD, do a search for XD and read them. I have one and think they are a very fine handgun. I would buy it again.

Babalouie
September 22, 2005, 09:08 PM
I had an XD-40 service model and loved it, sold it to finance a USPSA limited gun for my son. It was dead on accurate and handled really well. It was a bit clunky for CCW, but with a good holster (a Tucker can't be beat) that can be overcome for at least occasional ccw. Its a phenominal all around firearm. I am currently looking for an XD-40 Tac. to shoot in production class USPSA.

dolanp
September 22, 2005, 09:35 PM
Never had a problem with mine and it feels good in the hand. Pretty accurate and feeds just about everything.

DelayedReaction
September 22, 2005, 09:36 PM
I've heard nothing but good things about them, and planning on getting an XD-9 very soon.

MDG1976
September 22, 2005, 09:39 PM
Fine firearm, Very accurate.

dasmi
September 22, 2005, 09:42 PM
I've shot one and liked it, but I must say I like the Glock 19 better.

sp40cal
September 22, 2005, 09:44 PM
we have an Xd 40c that my wife shoots. We both love the gun and the 40cal round will do the job.

sp40cal

eagle45
September 22, 2005, 10:40 PM
I have the sub compact, service and tactical in 40. I like them! The only problem I had with any of them was with the tactical. It did not like the fp bullet I was reloading, even though they worked fine in the other two. I switched to a rnfp, and no more problems. I've never shot one in 9mm, but the 40s are not hard to handle, and are quite accurate. For me, they point better than the Glocks.

xd9fan
September 22, 2005, 11:16 PM
I have a 4inch bi-tone 9mm service model (16+1) that will eat anything you give her.
I love this gun. check out www.hs2000talk.com its a great website

zahc
September 22, 2005, 11:26 PM
My boss just got an XD40 and I'm in love with it.

You shouldn't use apostrophes to form plurals.

Major Beer
September 22, 2005, 11:42 PM
i have a Tactical in 40 - love it. Glocks are great too - just i like the feel factor on an XD.

if you have the chance to try them before a purchase - go to the range and have some fun.

Pietro Beretta
September 23, 2005, 12:38 AM
I Own the XD40 Sub-C

I have around 900 rounds through it with one failure to seat fully in the chamber at about round 80. It is accurate, however being .40 and a Sub-Comp, I have to really concentrate on getting my shots where I want them. Might not be a problem for you. This firearm is a breeze to field strip, and points naturally for me. I would recommend this firearm to anyone.

rgoudy1975
September 23, 2005, 02:48 AM
Mine feels great in the hand and shoots very well. I am an amateur shooter and can shoot some very small groups with my XD-40 service model. It just feels natural.

ZXD9
September 23, 2005, 10:41 AM
I have an XD9 Tactical and have about 800 rounds through it. No problems yet! Have shot all of the following rounds through it so far:

Remington UMC: 115g/124g/147g
CCI Blazer: 115g
Winchester USA: 115g
Wolf: 115g
MagTech: 115g

I'm trying Federal American Eagle 147g next.

1911WB
September 23, 2005, 11:02 AM
I helped a neighbor who is a novice with pistols decide on an XD-9 Service. In the course of breaking his in I became so impressed I got one of my own. Now I have 700 rounds thru mine without a failure, and he has about 500 thru his with only one FTF that we both attributed to limp wristing.

Gary G23
September 23, 2005, 11:51 AM
I'm a big fan of the XD-9 Service model.

kimbermaniac
September 24, 2005, 12:50 AM
I owned a sub compact 40 cal XD and numerous Glocks.I prefer the Glocks over the XD's.You can go to HS2000 forums for XD related forums for more info about the Springfield XD's.

Freeze N
September 24, 2005, 11:58 AM
Very fine handgun. The wife now wants it for her CCW. I was very surprised at the accuracy. Shoots like my Kimber!

Gannet
September 25, 2005, 12:16 PM
Sorry to have to go against the grain, but just to offer an alternative viewpoint, I have an XD-40 4" and I hate it. To be fair, I'm a total newbie, and this is only the fourth handgun I've fired.

I've put about 500 rounds of Mag-Tech FMJ through it. There were several fail-to-feeds and failures to return to battery in the first 200 or so rounds. In my most recent range trip, I only had two failures to return to battery, but it started failing to lock the slide back after the last round in a mag. Yes, it has been cleaned.

My particular gun has a factory defect in that the trigger pivot pin is not retained and walks out the side of the gun. It needs to be pushed back in after every mag. I'm sure the factory will fix this once it is returned under the lifetime warranty.

That brings up another point in that Springfield has instituted a policy of not selling parts to anyone, so in effect no one but the factory can service the weapon. Nice - not. I don't want to send it in for service until I can afford another gun, as I don't want to be without protection for the several weeks it takes to get it fixed. Or I might just say "screw it" and trade it in and take the loss.

It doesn't shoot where it's pointed for me. I've tried really hard, but it consistently shoots low and to the left from point of aim. I didn't have that problem with the CZ-40P that I shot during my CWP class (200 rounds). Yesterday I ran 250 rounds through the XD, and also rented a Kimber 1911 5" (not sure exactly which model) and ran 150 rounds through that. Side by side, my groups with the Kimber were 1/3 the size of my XD groups, right from the first magazine through the Kimber, and I'd never shot a 1911 before. That convinced me that, newbie or no, it's not just me, it's either the XD or the combination of me and the XD.

The finish on the slide is already showing significant wear, and it's not like I've been practicing drawing it.

The point of this is to overly bash XDs. They have so many happy owners that clearly it must be pretty good, at the least. But count at least one unhappy owner who thinks it's a :cuss: dog.

(donning flame suit) :)

dolanp
September 25, 2005, 01:05 PM
Sounds like yours does have a problem that needs to be fixed. Sorry to hear that.

There were several fail-to-feeds and failures to return to battery in the first 200 or so rounds. In my most recent range trip, I only had two failures to return to battery, but it started failing to lock the slide back after the last round in a mag. Yes, it has been cleaned.
Often this happens because of thumb placement over the slide stop. May not be the case with you but I just thought I'd throw that out there.

Freeze N
September 25, 2005, 02:01 PM
Gannet. Get that back to the factory ASAP. I wouldn't put up with that for 5 minutes. I hate to see you take the loss on selling it, plus the new owner is left with a piece of sh*t. Can you borrow a gun in the mean time? Good luck.

bytor94
September 25, 2005, 05:02 PM
I've put about 500 rounds of Mag-Tech FMJ through it. There were several fail-to-feeds and failures to return to battery in the first 200 or so rounds. In my most recent range trip, I only had two failures to return to battery, but it started failing to lock the slide back after the last round in a mag. Yes, it has been cleaned.

Have you tried any other brand of ammo for it? Some guns just do not like a particular type of ammo but with another brand will run fine. As to the trigger pin, get it back to the factory, and mention the dissatisfaction with the finish.

rick_in_lb
September 25, 2005, 05:36 PM
I fired a few hundered rounds of FACTORY AMMO through mine without a problem. I have also fed my 40cal my reloads using 155gr lswc, 165 lswc and 165 jswc without a hitch, wait I did have one problem but that was my stupid mistake. I like the XD and my son likes the XD, now its your choice. :neener:
GOOD LUCK

GunAdmirer
September 26, 2005, 11:47 PM
I have had no problems with mine. My bitone XD-9 Service has digested many different brands and types of rounds in the 250 rounds I have fed it. I have complete confidence in it. It is my bedside pistol right now.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a388/GunAdmirer/DSC00328b.jpg

XD's are making a good showing in IDPA competitions.

Growler
September 27, 2005, 12:06 AM
I own a XD-9 Service model and never had one problem with it to feed or extract. I have around 800 rounds through it so far. The only complaint I have is that it has very weak finish, doesn’t take long to start to show wear. The finish doesn’t bother me since my guns are for shooting not for display. Once it gets bad enough ill just sand blast the slide and give her a new finish.

bpisler
September 27, 2005, 01:47 AM
I've put 600 rounds thru my XD-9
with no failuesof any kind.100
of those were black hills 115gr
+P's load with the gold dot
bullet.100 were Speer 124gr gold
dot +P's,both were accurate and
had low muzzle flash.The finish
on the slide is doing just fine,
nothing to complain about yet.

tater_salad
September 27, 2005, 03:48 AM
I just bought one yesterday. I got a SA XD-9 Service (4") and I love it! I shot a rental at the gun shop first, I've never shot a pistol before, but I found it extremely easy to control, and pretty acurate. (First time picking up a pistol and all shots were easily in the human torso at 25M) After I get my muscles trained and my point of aim set with a few thousand rounds down range, I have a feeling it will be a highly acurate weapon. There have been some threads about the finish wearing on these guns over time, but I don't believe it to be a problem with the entire line, as I saw several used ones (as well as the rental I shot) and they all looked good. It's just common sense, take care of the gun, it'll take care of you. Since the main comparison is to the Glock (as that's what the XD was designed to compete against in the first place), I'll give my personal opinions on that as well. I finger-banged both for quite a while before I shot, and overall (and this is purely subjective) the XD just felt plain better in MY hands. It was extremely comfortable and easy to point, based off the 1911 handgrip design. If you're used to those, you'll probably like it. And, there are some other benefits to the XD as well, the magazines are highly chromed steel, so they feel like butter sliding in and dropping out. Also, the slide rails on the frame are metal insted of polymer, and the chamber seems to be supported very well. The weapon is very easy to disassemble, and would be a great 'nightstand' gun as it has a loaded chamber indicator and firing pin indicator that takes about .000001 of a second to feel with one hand in case it's dark, you still know you're locked, cocked, and ready to rock. Now I'm not saying the glock isn't an outstanding weapon, as it is. It's time tested and proven itself very reliable, acurate, and a favorite among many LEOs. My personal opinion is that SA set their sights on Glock, and made some good improvements over the 'traditional' poly-pistol. It's all up to personal preferance, and you can only determine that by going to your local gun shop and picking one up, and then comparing it to what ever else they have in stock. The information on the net is great, but it is mainly subjective, one advantage is you can look for patterns and that information can also help you notice some things when you're at the gun shop with the guns right in front of you that you might have overlooked or forgotten otherwise.

Jay Kominek
September 27, 2005, 02:35 PM
I have two 4" 9mm XD's. One has got something like 1500 rounds through it, and the other probably 3000, lots of it fired outdoors in dusty conditions. WWB, Gold Dot, Olympic, US Military NATO-spec stuff, Fiocchi, etc. They eat it all. I trust them completely.

Boss Spearman
October 2, 2005, 12:52 AM
I see SA has a ported XD. Has anyone tried the ported model?

Dollar An Hour
October 2, 2005, 02:49 AM
Wow, this reads like a Springfield-Armory ad. Maybe I'll get one. :)

Boss Spearman
October 2, 2005, 04:33 PM
I just got the XD9 sub compact.

Lex
October 2, 2005, 10:19 PM
Took my new 5" Tactical XD in .45 GAP to the range today.

Ran 100 rounds of Speer Lawman through it with no malfunctions at all.

Nuts-on accurate. Perceived a little more recoil than .45 ACP...maybe just my imagination.

Had TruGlo TFO's installed prior to the range trip. Love them!!!


Lex in NC

agony
October 3, 2005, 12:31 AM
As much as I adore SIGs, my all-around shooter is an XD service 9mm.
The finish sucks, but no probs with rust.
The trigger is a bit creepy, and the reset is nowhere close to a Glocks, but with some work from a talented 'smith it can be made better.

I've put at least 5000 rounds through mine. Only mods are trigger work, a stainless guide rod and new spring, a magwell and base pads for all the mags, and some SIG trijicon night sights. This gun has earned me several trophies at the local club, and I've put it through some serious training classes. In fact I'll be putting it through another class in a few weeks, which should include 1000 rounds plus simunitions in the course of a weekend.

My only gripe is the pointless rear strap safety. The only 'failures' I've ever had were with drawing from holster and ensuring that my thumb's web was properly placed...in several stressful drawing exercises I missed my cue so to speak and had to spend precious miliseconds getting my grip right. Now I just tape down the safety. Problem solved.

XD Niner
October 3, 2005, 11:08 PM
I bought mine in January of this year. In nine months I have put over 8000 rounds through it. This included multiple brands of 115 gr FMJ and 124 and 147 gr JHP. All have fed perfectly. I had one FTE at round 60 and did not have a problem until I finally wore out the recoil spring at around 7000 rounds. I put another $8 spring in it and it has not had a problem since.

I use it for USPSA Production Class as well as CCW and general target work. It is a very accurate hand gun and a steal for its price.

GunAdmirer
October 3, 2005, 11:55 PM
Wow! That's a lot of rounds in a short time. Glad to hear it is holding up well.

mrapathy2000
October 4, 2005, 02:32 AM
few of the bad points.

not made in the USA. made in Croatia.

Blued or Black Oxide finish which is RUST. you may not think its rusted cause you dont see any red but trust me if you took a good rust remover prepared to see the pistol in the white in a few minutes.

parts supply is not so great. imported and Springfield is bit stingy.

pins running through the polymer.

rear frame rails polymer. actually a few pistols have polymer rails and are holding up well. but wonder what sand would do to it.
plastic guide rod.
single action not DAO.

positives. good metal locking block, lockup is of Sig origin. simple parts. fully supported chamber in 40sw can handle full house 40sw loads. check doubletap or buffalobore.

metal sights. grip safety good idea. ambidextrious magazine release. easy dissassembly. cult following at hs2000talk.com also goes by xd talk.

Originally was HS2000 sold for $300-$350 NIB. dropped by HS for importation. Springfield picked it up put a X in the name and jacked the price up.

Custard
October 4, 2005, 04:09 AM
My advice is to shoot them and see what you think. Guns feel different under recoil than when you are just fondling them.

I am also looking for a new pistol. I have a HK P7M8 which is, IMHO, an excellent carry gun but it gets very hot when you are shooting it fast. I like to shoot and I find myself having to take breaks to let it cool down. I am also thinking about getting into alphabet shooting (IPSC, IPDA, etc.) and there are not a lot of accessories available for the P7. I would rather have a more mainstream gun.

I went to the range and rented a Glock 22, Sig 229, HK USP40, a S&W that I have forgotten the model of, and a XD40 Service. All were in .40. I chose to try .40 caliber pistols since that is what they had more samples of.

Handling the guns I expected to like the Sig. It just had a good hand feel. I expected to hate the Glock. I had never shot one and didn't understand why anyone would buy one. It feels like a 2x4. I have been mildly bad mouthing them for years. Always with the disclaimer that I have never fired one but I was not shy about expressing my opinion of their ergonomics.

Under recoil I quickly found that I didn't like the Sig. I had a hard time controlling it. I think the rounded grip makes it roll more in my hand. It was the first to be eliminated. I shot about 350 rounds at a moderate rate of fire through the rest of them. Some slow (2-3 seconds between shots) and some a little faster. I found the transition from double action to single action really tough on me. I was much more accurate with a striker fired pistol or if I cocked the hammer first. I soon discarded the S&W to concentrate on striker fired models. I shot the smallest groups, by a fair distance, with the Glock. I really liked the way it felt under recoil. That surprised me. I was prepared to hate it. The USP and XD groups were similar.

I liked the controls on the USP a lot. They were right where I expected them to be. Very nice gun. I like it.

I got three fresh targets and another 150 rounds and started picking up the rate of fire. I quickly found I couldn't control the USP as well. It just didn't fit my hand. I dropped it after about 30 rounds.

I was bummed. I had a feeling I was going to end up liking the Glock. Anyone have a good recipe for crow?

I decided to put 60 rounds into a fresh target with each remaining gun and pay no attention to where the holes appeared. I would just shoot as fast as I could and see what happened later. I did strings of ten rounds as fast as I could control them and a bunch of double taps and Mozambique drills. I remember thinking how well the Glock comes straight back and how fast it was to get on target. On the other hand I noticed I was shooting at least 30% faster with the XD. The Glock felt fast but the bangs were closer together with the XD. I know the XD was faster but I don't know how much. I wish I had had a timer. I also shot a couple magazines one shot at a time from low ready seeing how fast I could get a quick site picture and fire.

When I checked the targets there was no comparison. The XD target had one big hole with a scattering around it. All rounds were on black with one wild flier just cutting the white. I remember that round and it was one of the first after switching guns and the trigger was so different I touched it off by accident. The Glock was more of a scattering with three rounds totally on the white. The Glock felt fast and controllable but I shoot a lot better with the XD. I see why people get tighter groups with the XD after replacing the sites. My groups with the Glock at ten yards were most rounds in a hole with a couple fliers still touching. My groups with the XD were about an inch and a half. At the same range with my P7 I generally shoot .5 to .75 holes. I have no doubt that all these guns are far more accurate than I am. The sites on the Glock are just a lot nicer.

So I expect to get a XD. I will do the same rental drill a couple more times to be sure but I see a XD in my future. Of course that might all change once I try a Glock with aftermarket grips.

Dan

OH25shooter
October 4, 2005, 10:16 AM
All I can add is my 'novice shooting' brother just bought a Sigma and XD, both 9mm. He talks more about liking the XD for being easy and comfortable to shoot. FWIW

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