Gunshow find! The hope (?) of Taurus polymer : New PT 640


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New_comer
March 28, 2003, 07:28 AM
"Well, well, another gunshow.... might as well take a look. Something different might yet surprise me..." I said to myself, not expecting much after that controversial decision by the Philippine President to practically ban CCW for civilians (prove first that a "death" threat exists before a permit could be given :rolleyes: )

The thousand dollar ++ Glocks, Sigs, Walthers, USP's (and a Kahr MK9!) no longer surprise me, so what else is new? :banghead:

The HS2000's and Bernardelli's gained $50. Not the bargains that they once were...

Well, there's a $60 price drop on the recent intro Armscor/CD 40SW hi-cap. Hmmm, the price'll still fall down, I mused. Better wait another year or two...

Saw an $820 Peters Stahl framed hi-cap 1911 in 45ACP. Interesting, it's well made... but it's got the milspec grip safety and the slide has no markings whatsoever. A hybrid, I thought... But it's good enough so much so that I've decided to spend some time researching about that gun. Moving on...

Then chanced upon this gun in the Taurus booth:

http://www.taurus.com.br/seguranca/pt640.gif

It lay beside the older Millenium models, that when I first passed by it, I didn't notice that it was a different one.

"Hand me that one, please..." :scrutiny:

Interesting... It's got the same slide as the PT140, but the frame is beefier somehow. Its now thicker at the rear, a bit taller, too...

Hey! This one has NO safety lever! But the red dot on the slide is still there, so that's kind of goofy. :rolleyes:

The frame retaining pins are definitely smaller, about only half the diameter of the PT-1xx's. Can't say for certain, but the only way they can do this is if it's steel. That's got to be good news, especially addressing the Skyslash issue. (For those who're interested, go to TFL and search for that scary one)

Its got generous 3-dot novak type rear, post front sights. It holds 11+1 of 40SW, and the PT609 holds 13+1 of 9mm, two mags per gun. Very nice.... very nice indeed. :D

At about half the price of a G26, this is a potential bargain, as I suspect that the weakness of the PT-1xx series should have already been addressed with the complete redesign of the frame of this model already.

Too bad, I can't test the trigger pull, as it's trigger guard is clamped shut. But the store rep swears by the 640's improved trigger, just as long but lighter and smoother than the old ones. I hope I could try one for myself and be the judge of that. ;)

The store has these models only for display, but may be available for purchase at the next gunshow, maybe in August.

Oh, the agony of waiting... :cool:

In the meantime, anyone here thinks that this here PT-6XX is it? Has Taurus really "cracked" the cracking issue, particularly with this one?

Cheers and ...

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CZF
March 28, 2003, 08:18 AM
Very Interesting, as the South African gun magazine MAN MAGNUM just did a test of this new POLICE marked gun.

Maybe Taurus actually has a Police agency as a customer for
these? I like the Taurus PT92, but will stick with my P-01 for
a lighter/smaller service class pistol.

10-Ring
March 28, 2003, 11:13 AM
Interesting....maybe they have addressed their frame & pin issues. I'd like to see a torture test or 3 tho.

New_comer
March 28, 2003, 11:10 PM
Very Interesting, as the South African gun magazine MAN MAGNUM just did a test of this new POLICE marked gun. Hi there, CZF! Do they have a website where we could check their review on this gun? Really interesting to know how this made out...

I've taken the liberty of posting a side-by-side of their 9mm for better comparison

http://www.taurus.com.br/seguranca/PT-609.gifhttp://www.taurus.com.br/seguranca/pt111.gif

You be the judge...

Zundfolge
March 29, 2003, 01:20 AM
Looks like they just built a .40 and 9mm around the old PT145 frame.

New_comer
March 29, 2003, 02:04 AM
Is that so? Let me compare: :scrutiny:

http://www.taurus.com.br/seguranca/pt145.gifhttp://www.taurus.com.br/seguranca/pt640.gif

Except for the smaller pins and the lack of the safety lever, the frames of both guns do look similar.

Question: would this swap be of any structural benefit considering the higher operating pressures of the 9mm and the 40SW? If the 45 could batter this to failure, the 40 could surely be more 'fatal' to the frame... :(

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