September 24, 2005, 09:44 PM
Alright, after the bashing the tec-9 received from everyone, I have turned my attention to the mac-11 and its variants.
Which is "better", the Cobray m11 or the defender pistol(masterpiecearms) or the Vulcan?
September 25, 2005, 11:12 AM
first off, there is a difference in the cobray m-11s......some were made by SWD and some by "others" and assembled as completed guns.For example, the original m-11 bolt made by SWD, didnt have a snake logo on it, seen some with the logo stamp,they were made elsewhere also the early ones did have a non free spinning tall cocking knob that could be turned via a machined ball detent slot in the bolt...not like the free spinning small style used on them today..the internals are also different on an original vs "other" makes but will fit and work in the same gun,many people assembled them with the non-original parts and sold them as a m-11.the trigger slap is horrendous and matching surfaces on the sear-bar are out of alignment. The magazine the cobray m11 uses vary,normally, zytel mags but they can be adapted to use a large variety of mags from different guns such as the sten mags,madsen mags ect..the zytels wear out eventually at the feedlips but now there is a steel insert that has fixed that.
the masterpiece arms version is well made,some small modifications to the bolt on the original design to eliminate the "clone" version problems(trigger slap) and pretty good machinework and heat treating.they use sten mags only,which are two thirds cheaper to buy than the zytels the cobray uses.
no experience with the other makes.it depends on how much work and thought goes into it I guess but the internals on all the clones will interchange.
An original might be pricy to find but are also neat from a collectors standpoint, the MPA version is cheaper but very well made.
September 25, 2005, 04:06 PM
The Masterpiece arms guns are extremely well made out of high quality materials.The 9x19 version uses Sten mags while the .45acp version uses grease gun mags.They are extremely politically incorrect and that makes them fabulous in my eyes.I wish I had the spare $$$ for one of their rifles.
September 25, 2005, 09:06 PM
Thanks for the info. Which one would yall recommend, .45acp or 9mm?
I have a .40 glock and the ammo for it is about 8.79 for 40 rounds, so I am guessing .45 is a little more. 9mm seems fairly cheap at around $5 for 50 rounds.
Other than the ammo price difference, what do yall think?
September 25, 2005, 11:58 PM
Thats a toss up and really a personal choice.I got one in .45acp,but would also love one in 9x19.CDNN has Sten mags for less than $10.00 each.I forgot to mention earlier that both the Sten and grease gun mags are 30 rounders! :what:
September 26, 2005, 04:43 PM
They're neat, they're fun, but, IMO, even a well made example isn't a particularly good or useful weapon.
September 26, 2005, 05:44 PM
I'd get the 9x19 as the ammo is more affordable but I'd like to pick up a 45acp versio too if I could afford both in your situation.