How Do LE Depts. "Issue" Ammo?


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doctorj
March 28, 2003, 11:10 AM
How are LEOs "issued" ammo? Are they given a box every couple months? Do they give back the old stuff? Do they turn in loaded mags and get back mags loaded with fresh ammo?

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Blueduck
March 28, 2003, 11:33 AM
Most the small departments around here all do it the same way.

After initial qualification your issed two 50 rounds boxes of carry ammo. At annual recertification you use up your old carry ammo and are again issued two boxes of the good stuff.

A few of the Departments around here allow officers to carry almost anything they want. Each of those agencies make the officers purchase there own ammo but allow them to order through the department for cheaper prices and access to the "Restricted" loads if they want them.

I'm sure it varies greatly from agency to agency around the country.

9mmepiphany
March 28, 2003, 04:08 PM
our department (approx. 1500 officers) buys the ammo as part of a state bid (for some reason we can never get ferderal stuff). during tri-mester qualification we shoot our carry ammo and reload with fresh ammo....they do not replace personally purchased ammo if different from that issued.

once a year we shoot a qualifcation course for medals (50rds)...they just hand us a new box. all qualification, and practice, is shot with duty ammo ranger SXT.

Serpico
March 28, 2003, 04:54 PM
he LASD gives you 46 rounds of sxts for the beretta (they actually take out 4 rounds) which you turn in every year for new...it all goes in a box and back to the range...guess they use it for something...

635 PCSO
March 28, 2003, 06:50 PM
Our Sheriff does the same a smost. At qual you get 100 rounds of carry ammunition. We qual twice a year. We also carry approx 500 rounds in a ammo can in our trunk. We are issued 100 rounds of 223, 100, rounds of 45, and 50 of buck and slug.

We are lucky to have our Sheriff he is real good about giving us what we need. He also allows us to carry whatever we want. He carries a 41 mag smith most of the time.

I have seen other agencies here in Oklahoma that are very limited to what they can carry and how often they shoot.

Johnny Guest
March 28, 2003, 07:27 PM
Each deputy is issued a full basic load of ammo--Speer Gold Dot--a pistol full plus two magazines full. Yup, I get 25 rounds for my Commander. They guys who carry Glock 17s get 52. (Yeah, yeah--Nobody ever said life is FAIR.)

We are required to qualify twice a year and each time are issued 50 rounds for that activity. We are encouraged to shoot up all our carry ammo during quals, and to reload with the new issue.

Same with long arms-- basic issue is three Mini-14 mags full for those issued one. Rifle qual is 20 rounds. Deputies carrying private purchase carbines buy their own ammo, too. Don't recall the structure of issue for shotgun ammo. They issue both 00 buck and slugs. I think ten 00 and five slugs. Patrol carries both carbines and shotguns. Plain clothes-- Investigations, warrants, civil - - - get shotguns only.

There is an official "open range day" each month-- Quals with newly-acquired firearms, practice, sighting-in, etc. Issue ammo only comes out twice a year. Anything additional, other than special training, is done with privately-purchased ammo.


Also, individual deputies may arrange with range master to go to the range at a mutually convenient time, for any purpose. This is usually off duty activity for the deputy, but only during range officer's duty hours.

It all works out pretty well. All this reminds me--I gotta dig out my issue 870 and re-qual with it. I just carry my personal AR15 in the car.

Best,
Johnny

yankytrash
March 28, 2003, 08:15 PM
Wow, I do live in the sticks.

Local sheriff's office here just gives the LEO firearms' instructor whatever he needs for ammo per month. That's not much, maybe 1000rd of 45ACP, 100rd 000Buck, 500rd 223, and a straggler box of 38spl for the old guy with the rusty revolver. Anybody at yearly qualifier or bimonthly open shoot gets to use whatever they need. Otherwise, you're on your own for ammo. Usually there's more than enough lying around for everybody to have a good chunk of ammo in their trunk, for whatever they like to carry around.

Our boys seem to prefer 45ACP for sidearm (Sig, Glock), and 223 (M16) in the trunk. Everyone has a 12ga of some sort (even a couple Ithaca's floatin around a couple patrol cars). One older sheriff likes to have his 22-250 in the trunk for rabid varmints, both 2 and 4 legged, and another has an old CMP Garand.

All kindsa' stuff around here. I know one thing, I make sure to make it to the yearly county meeting when the sheriff asks for 2 more M16's. He likes his toys as much as I do. By now our county has to have a room full of M16s. :D

Nothing nicer than the sound of PA!PA!PA!PA!PA!PA!PA!PA!PA! in the background when I'm in town fillin up with gas. Makes a man feel .....

safe. :)

El Tejon
March 28, 2003, 08:16 PM
I carried my own water. I bought my own. Shouldn't everyone???:confused:

Coronach
March 28, 2003, 09:50 PM
Our PD issues us 25 rounds of ammo annually. When we do our annual state qualification (note: we go to the range more often than that, but we have an annual state-mandated qual) our ammo is changed over. Out with the old, in with the new.

We are issued training ammo whenever we go to the range. We are extremely lucky in that we have a weekly open range day.

Mike

tlhelmer
March 29, 2003, 03:45 PM
When we qualify we shoot the old stuff first. Once we are done we are given fresh rounds that may or may not have been as old as the stuff we already had, but were in the box.

It seems our dept. buys all the ammo we are going to need for the year at one time. I have seen pallets of premium ammo delivered in Indy.

We use our duty ammo for every phase we shoot.

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