Need help choosing 9mm CCW


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C-grunt
September 26, 2005, 02:09 PM
First of all, I dont want to start a caliber war, or a my guns more holy than thou discussion. I own a .45 and a .40 and I know they make bigger holes, I just shoot a 9mm better.
OK, Im looking into a Kahr or a Glock 26 for CCW.
I own a G22 and like the way they feel and shoot. Plus the 26 holds 10 rounds.
My friend has a Kahr E9 (?) and I shoot it well also. Its a lot slimmer and conceals better.
So what do yall think about it? Anybody own both?

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Rockrivr1
September 26, 2005, 02:22 PM
I'm looking for a new CCW as well. After looking at my options I've decided to go with the G26. Seems like a good choice.

DR
September 26, 2005, 02:26 PM
They're both fine guns. I'd have no qualms about the reliability or practical accuracy of either. I went with the Kahr because it's slimmer.

Zundfolge
September 26, 2005, 02:31 PM
ditto what DR said

Rob1035
September 26, 2005, 02:31 PM
I'm going with the G26. Some of the best reliability in the subcompact size, plenty of aftermarket support.

Its light weight (a big plus for a carry piece), can be very accurate, and can handle hot loads. 10+1 of hot 9mm is much better than nothing :cool:

Yardstick
September 26, 2005, 02:32 PM
If you haven't seen one yet, there's also the Taurus Mil Pro PT-111 that carries 12 rounds of 9mm per mag. They're pretty small and light. I have a pair of .45 cal 1911's, but I'm hoping to pick up a Taurus soon for CCW.

GI Jane
September 26, 2005, 02:34 PM
I must give a biased opinion, I just don't like Glocks, so I will have to say Kahr.
looks like some of the Kahr can get kinda pricey.
But really you should go with what feels right for you, everyone taste are different. Hold it, fondle it and fall in love, it will be what you rely on to maybe one day save your life. It has to feel right to you.

Dr.Rob
September 26, 2005, 03:19 PM
The Kahr is skinny but heavier, I'd prefer the Kahr.

LooseGrouper
September 26, 2005, 03:25 PM
I have a Khar K9 (steel frame). It feels great in my hands and I shoot it almost as well as my full sized Sig p226. I think the standard Khar trigger is possibly the best compromise between safety and ease of use in a carry gun.

It is sort of heavy for it's size, though. The polymer frames are a good deal lighter, but there are reports of poor quality in the "plastic" Khars.

ChristopherG
September 26, 2005, 03:26 PM
I've owned and shot both Kahr and Glock 9mm's. When I decided to use a wheelgun for CCW, I sold the Kahr; but if I had stuck with an auto it would have been the Kahr all the way. Its profile is friendlier to carry, it's accurate and pleasant (well, in all but the little itty bitty plastic versions), and I'm more comfortable carrying a longer DA trigger (see: wheelgun choice).

HighVelocity
September 26, 2005, 03:47 PM
Have a look at the Sig P239 in 9mm. It's a sweet shooter and it's nice and flat for easy concealment.

Kjott21
September 26, 2005, 04:04 PM
I have carried a Glock 23 for about a year now pretty much every day. Recently I purchased a Kahr P9 Covert to fill the times that I need to carry something smaller. It has been a great little gun. They are a lot slimmer than the Glocks of similar size and have a smooth constant trigger pull. I can even pocket carry mine if I want. If you are looking for something that is small and light enough to carry all the time then I would go with one of the polymer series Kahrs. I haven't had any problems with mine yet after about 500 rounds in the 3 weeks that I have had it. For a great budget carry piece I would even look to the new CW9 that Kahr is offering. It is the same as the P9 but is a little rougher and cheaper.

Thin Black Line
September 26, 2005, 04:22 PM
Taurus PT111s are decent...

Janitor
September 26, 2005, 04:27 PM
http://www.a-human-right.com/p9vsg26.html
Oleg still has his Kahr.

I just picked up a Kahr P9 myself about two weeks ago. Thus far, I've found it accurate and reliable. I've shot about 300 rounds through it so far, and there's been zero FTFs or FTEs. In fact, while it's been fed a mix of JHP and ball, the first two mags were filled with JHP.

warriorsociologist
September 26, 2005, 04:32 PM
S&w 3913

Bulldozer
September 26, 2005, 05:32 PM
I had occassion to own botha Kahr K9 and a Glock 26 in the not too distant past.

I could never warm up to the Kahr, despite it being slimmer and a solid steel frame. The G26 on the other hand, was a fine backup piece for the G19 I liked to carry.

The G26 also had a higher magazine capacity and could accomodate those nifty 15 or 17-rd G17/19 mags too.

These days I've gone back to my roots, I'm a 3" K-frame kinda guy, so what do I know...

fastbolt
September 26, 2005, 05:49 PM
As with all personal choices in handguns intended for defensive use ... it depends on the individual making the informed choice.

Personally? When it comes to subcompact 9mm pistols I prefer my CS9 or G26. When it comes to slightly larger compact 9mm pistols I prefer my 3913 & SW99c ...

Different strokes, and all that.

There are other makes & models, of course.

Of all of the Kahrs that have come through our range, a K40 & MK40 have exhibited functional reliability to the extent that no malfunctions were witnessed over the course of at least more than one shooting session. The MK40 I mentioned exhibited good functioning right from the box, even during the recommended 'break in' period (I witnessed the first 150 rounds fired through it the first day it was fired). A PM40 completed a 36-round COF without any malfunctions. Another PM40 exhibited frequent failures-to-return-to-battery during firing, but it was apparently NIB. Other folks who have brought Kahrs through the range for qualification haven't always been so lucky. One of the other instructors finally had enough of trying to get his PM9 to function and he got rid of it.

I'm sure there are very happy Kahr owners out there. Lots of them seem to post in these forums. I just don't get the chance to actually meet many of them on the range ...

Seems to be an interesting mix of variable experiences and satisfaction with Kahr pistols.

I've never met a displeased G26, CS9, or 3913 owner, though ...

Naturally, you ought to consider test firing as many models as possible through a local range, using quality ammunition ... and perhaps do so on more than one occasion ... so you can be in the position of making the best informed decision possible, after doing enough personal research to satisfy yourself.

Ken Rainey
September 26, 2005, 08:27 PM
Since you already own a Glock 22, the G26 would keep the operating systems the same which is always a benefit. I've owned two Kahr K9s which functioned fine and were accurate and the only problem I had was one had a pin that would back out during firing - which the factory fixed. Disassembly was more aggravating with the K9s too. I personally prefer the Glock for it's durability and ease of maintenance. The G26 is my favorite ccw and is an amazing pistol with low recoil and superb accuracy. As always, YMMV.

Jeff Timm
September 26, 2005, 08:55 PM
Check out this one, http://www.kahr.com/pistols_M9093box.html

Current price: $475 http://www.kahr.com/pistols_9mm_prod.html

My Kahr http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=130950
is just a bit large for hot weather concealed carry.

Geoff
Who likes the Economy model as well. http://www.kahr.com/pistols_E9094.html :cool:

bpisler
September 27, 2005, 01:57 AM
I like my Kahr MK-9,i got it for
cheap ($279.00),it shoots really
well with 115gr +P's.It's not as
wide as a G-26,it hides better
in my front pocket.I also have a
S&W 99C which i like a lot,It's
slightly bigger than my MK-9 but
holds 4 more rounds.

ruger270man
September 27, 2005, 04:58 AM
ditto on the sig 239

BlackHive
September 27, 2005, 11:34 AM
I've heard more than a few people curse the Glock 26 after buying it for concealed carry because of its double-width magazine setup making it just as wide as the 'huge' Glock 17. Short but fat. It seems a revolver or slimmer auto would be a better choice.

Northslope Nimrod
September 27, 2005, 11:54 AM
I have shot both. My brother-in-law has the Glock and my friend has a Kahr PM9. I think the only benefit of the Glock is the high capacity capability, which is definately a plus.
Both have spongey triggers that I don't care for....but for a true CCW weapon, the triggers do what they are supposed to do.
This is how I would decide: If you are planning to carry it in a pocket holster or ankle holster go with the Kahr. If you put it on your hip, IWB or OWB then go with the Glock. In my neighborhood the Glocks are cheaper.....less $$.

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