What condition for bedside gun?


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Shrinkmd
September 27, 2005, 11:05 PM
A follow up poll:

Condition 1, 2, 3, or 4? I guess that 1911 is different than a TDA auto with a decocker, but what the hey?

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scott.cr
September 27, 2005, 11:21 PM
1911, Condition One here. The classical nightstand pistol. Close at hand is the Mossberg 590. Both have night sights. (Novaks on the 1911, Trijicon on the Mossberg.)

Paranoid, maybe, but I live close to a town where there are regular shootings and a lot of crime.

Moonclip
September 28, 2005, 01:36 AM
Currently a Colt 1991A1 cond 2 with 230gr Fed hydra shok jhp in a Wilson 8rd mag. Two more Colt 8rd mags. Sure Fire 6p or my Weinerschnitzel halloween flashlight! Backed up sometimes with a Taurus 85ch loaded with 158gr LSWCHP. I like revolvers for HD sort of because they can be left with springs uncompressed and if the oil dries off or it gets dusty it's not going to have it's reliabilty compromised.

SKS and Rem 870 are available too but I don't keep them loaded generally.

If visiting my dads house, he does not like the idea of a SA pistol for HD puposes, afraid he will fumble it while groggy from being woke up so the guns we keep around there are a Ruger P97DC and a Ruger P95Dc, fully loaded with one in the chamber.

He also keeps a Mossberg cruiser in 20 ga in condition 3 for it though.

Mulliga
September 28, 2005, 02:01 AM
Condition 1. If it ain't cocked and locked, it ain't ready.

I leave the 870 and AR with empty chambers, though.

HighVelocity
September 28, 2005, 07:16 AM
Sig P220 round in chamber, decocked. 870P round in chamber, safety on.

Zach S
September 28, 2005, 07:57 AM
Nightstand gun is a 1911 kept in C1. My Mossberg 590 is a step away, also C1.

Ala Dan
September 28, 2005, 08:04 AM
Traditional double-action with decocker

Robert Hairless
September 28, 2005, 08:59 AM
It depends on the class of criminal you expect to invade your home, doesn't it?

A decent sort would give advance notice of his impending visit so one could make proper preparations. Depending upon the time of day it might be appropriate to have ready anything from a simple but elegant snack all the way up to a complete meal. The difficulty would be to know whether the home invader has dietary aversions or restrictions. At any rate, the gentleman home invader is characterized by his courtesy in allowing sufficient time for the home owner to be ready for his visit. A week's advance notice is best, I think, but certainly no less than three business days. In that case it's appropriate to store the firearm in a drawer or closet, or perhaps even a safety deposit box in one's favorite bank, with the magazine removed and the ammunition arranged neatly in its carton. There would be sufficient time to obtain, assemble, and charge the firearm so that it's ready for the visit. And one does want to be safe if one is not planning to use the firearm, doesn't one?

If, however, one must deal with common riff-raff who seem to dominate the home invasion industry today, perhaps it makes better sense to have the damned thing ready to go at a moment's notice--if one is fortunate enough to get even a moment's notice--doncha think? :)

benEzra
September 28, 2005, 09:06 AM
Condition 1. If it ain't cocked and locked, it ain't ready.
It is if it's double action. :D

S&W 3913LS, round chambered, hammer down, safety on. I do have a lockbox on the headboard to prevent access by the kids, also.

bobhaverford
September 28, 2005, 09:20 AM
Sig 228 w bullet in chamber under bed in a gun safe. We've got two dogs who will give me warning enough to get to the gun. Takes less than 15 seconds. I don't want a loaded gun accessible to the kids (four). I'm thinking about breaking my shotgun out of the closet and keeping it closeby with ammo easily accessible.

This is, admittedly, a compromise solution. We don't live in a high crime area and my solutions is the best compromise for me and my family.

nbkky71
September 28, 2005, 01:45 PM
Glock G17 with Surefire P101 weapon light, condition 1, in a biometric gunsafe anchored to the floor.

DT Guy
September 28, 2005, 07:11 PM
Glock, kept...well, pretty much the only way a Glock CAN be kept ready.

I'd prefer a condition 1 1911, but we've decided that all the guns ready for 'family' use will be kept the same way-point and shoot.


Larry

lee n. field
September 28, 2005, 07:36 PM
Closest gun is decocked, full magazine, empty chamber.

41mag
September 28, 2005, 08:04 PM
Uh,I keep a real...I mean a wheel gun @ the ready. :evil:

Six rounds of blind you in the dark S&W .357 Magnum.

k_dawg
September 28, 2005, 09:40 PM
S&W 686 4" barrel, hammer lowered on live round.

MachIVshooter
September 28, 2005, 10:18 PM
All bedroom handguns are TDA and are kept loaded chamber, hammer down, safety off (C1, more or less). Rifle is kept C3.

Sven
September 28, 2005, 10:40 PM
One in the chamber, hammer back, safety on... and I sleep with a trauma plate duct taped to my back - just in case.

GunGoBoom
September 28, 2005, 11:47 PM
I don't like this poll and/or the classifications of conditions upon which it is based. What I mean is, condition 1 apparently means cocked & locked IF and ONLY IF you're talking about an SAO auto. But yet condition one ALSO means cocked and UNlocked on a DAO or DA/SA auto, whether or not it has a manual safety and whether or not such a manual safety is engaged. Makes no sense to me, since in the first category, TWO actions are required to fire - taking off manual safety & pulling trigger, whereas with the latter type gun, only one action is required (if the manual safety is off, or there is no manual). But the answer for me, is condition 1, with a DA/SA, no manually safety - just completely ready to point and click. I just think that this SHOULD BE re-classified as condition zero since it requires one less action than an SAO in condition 1, as traditionally defined.

Black Majik
September 28, 2005, 11:52 PM
1911.

Condition 3. 870 nearby.

foghornl
September 29, 2005, 09:59 AM
Springfield 1911-A1 is cocked-n-locked.

Same for Maverick 88 shotty under the bed, and the SKS on Mrs. Foggy's side of the bed.

1911JMB
September 29, 2005, 10:16 AM
870 with safety on, chamber empty. My thought is the sound of racking it will scare away many intruders.I could have my Sig or 1911 ready to go, but why bother when you have a 12 gauge?

A Cleaner
September 29, 2005, 10:30 AM
870 HD - empty chamber, safety off, mag full of 00 buck.
Glock 19 - one in the chamber, 15 ready behind that one.

Zach S
September 29, 2005, 11:03 AM
870 with safety on, chamber empty. My thought is the sound of racking it will scare away many intruders.
My thought is that if they can hear me rack it, I let them get too close. I used to keep my mossberg cruiser-ready, however my previously mentioned thought still applied.

cookekdjr
September 29, 2005, 11:17 AM
What condition do I keep my autoloader? I dunno, what do you call a full cylinder? ;)
-D

SalukiFan
September 29, 2005, 11:30 AM
Condition 8.

Firearm field-stripped with each piece locked in separate safes around the house, except the firing pin which is kept in a safety-deposit box at the bank (open 9-5). Ammunition at the Wal-Mart across town.

Just kidding! :p

DirksterG30
September 29, 2005, 12:28 PM
Condition 2 - P-01 double-action with decocker

WayneConrad
September 29, 2005, 01:40 PM
What GunsGoBoom said. My P99 has no hammer, no external safety, and I put it to bed loaded with one in the pipe. Whether cocked or uncocked, each pull of the trigger will make it go "bang." If uncocked, the first pull is harder. If cocked, the first pull is easier. There is no external safety. What condition is that?

pete f
September 29, 2005, 02:02 PM
I still havea a gov/t stuck behind the night stand, but have started t o sleep with a 6906 under the pillow one in the pipe safety off, but with the mag not seated. will not go off in the night with a fumble and yet just seat the mag and ready to go.

nbkky71
September 29, 2005, 02:50 PM
Condition 8.
Firearm field-stripped with each piece locked in separate safes around the house, except the firing pin which is kept in a safety-deposit box at the bank (open 9-5). Ammunition at the Wal-Mart across town.

Don't laugh...

One of my shooting buddies actually did this before he got a safe. He would strip his rifles and place components througout his house in "undisclosed" locations. :eek:

If an intruder make it through all the home security and alarms, they'd never be able to use his rifles.

Greymoor
September 29, 2005, 02:55 PM
My current "nightstand" weapon is a CZ 75BD. I have it stocked with 16+1 124gr. Gold Dots. Since the 75BD is a DA/SA decocker with no manual safeties I have one in the tube and the weapon decocked. 11 lbs. DA and about 5 lbs SA pull weights.

PlasticPistolPacker
September 29, 2005, 09:57 PM
Saluki Fan:
Condition 8.

Firearm field-stripped with each piece locked in separate safes around the house, except the firing pin which is kept in a safety-deposit box at the bank (open 9-5). Ammunition at the Wal-Mart across town.


If I didn't know any better I'd think you live just South of me in MASS :p

one45auto
September 29, 2005, 10:31 PM
I keep my Glock 19 in condition three because my perimeter security is strong enough to give me ample warning of any intrusion. Besides, you'd be surprised how quickly I can chamber a round while bringing the sights on target. ;)

Rinehartdv
October 1, 2005, 08:01 PM
I keep a 1911 (Commander/Defender) C&L, bedside. If I'm visiting the Grandkid's I adjust for their safety. Ray

Shotgun12
October 2, 2005, 11:46 PM
870 with safety on, chamber empty. My thought is the sound of racking it will scare away many intruders.
I used to go on that assumption as well; it totally depends on the situation .... however, dealing with someone who may be 'well into' your house - and who also may either be drunk, "stoned & bullet proof", insane, or any combination of the above .... this could just be giving them a warning to take cover - or to open fire. If they can't .... or choose not to leave; this would mean that you'd have to 'clear' the house, and probably end up in a fire fight. IF POSSIBLE, I'd prefer to be in Con-1; where I could quietly remove the safety, (maneuver to a better position - if situation allows) .... and when intruder is in the most vulnerable location (you know 'your' house - they don't), then do what you have to do.
I know this type of thing entails a lot of "ifs" .... just hope none of us have to put any of these scenarios to use.

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ziadel
October 2, 2005, 11:54 PM
condition 1 on the 1911


cruiser ready on the shotgun

condition one on the CETME

tater_salad
October 7, 2005, 02:05 AM
Condition 1, but inside the plastic unlocked case (it's an XD-9, so no external safety) 1 in the chamber, 1 mag of 15 loaded, and 1 mag of 15 right next to that, all Speer Gold Dot +P JHP 124gr). If 31 rounds of JHP fun doesn't stop whoever's in my house, I'm probably F*ed anyways. I figure what's the point of having a gun if it's unloaded if there's someone in your house, possibly right outside your bedroom door? The classic addage, better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. I may think differently when I have children (it's just the wife and I right now) but for now, Condition 1 will be just fine, thank you.

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