SKS bullpup stock from Rifletech.com?


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MatthewVanitas
September 29, 2005, 01:38 PM
Has anyone handled one of these in person, or heard any first-hand opinions on these?

Almost every bullpup conversion kit I've heard of has bad reviews (AKU-94, Muzzlelite), with the possible exception of those lovely and spendy 10/22 kits by Ironwood Designs.

There's a pretty cool page of prototype SKS stocks at http://www.simonov.net/bullpup.htm , but no production pieces listed.

This stock at http://www.rifletech.com/bullpup.htm seems to be the only mass-produced SKS bullpup stock in current production. No price listed on the page though. I'll call them and ask the price, just for kicks.

http://www.rifletech.com/pup1.jpg

Anyone seen one, met anyone who has seen one, go to the same barbershop as a guy whose cousin's baby's-momma saw one on TV once?

I'm curious about this stock, but very wary, so any advice is much appreciated. -MV

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MrTuffPaws
September 29, 2005, 01:48 PM
I have not heard or seen a review of the stock, but rifletech's removable mags seem to have good reviews.

clange
September 29, 2005, 01:51 PM
Interesting. Needs a forward grip for the left hand though.

nbkky71
September 29, 2005, 02:13 PM
Changing a magazine looks like it would be awkward

Moriarty
September 29, 2005, 02:33 PM
Ehhhh...

I looked into these some time ago. They're a bit of a kludge, mostly for show and not serious use. Most bullpup designs aren't friendly to southpaws, either. I elected to keep things OEM.

If you decide to go forward with one, be very careful about 922(r) compliance. Remember that just installing a bipod on your SKS can make it "nonsporting."

Domino
September 29, 2005, 03:34 PM
It looks like it would work best with an SKS-D rifle, that might make an interesting gun.

Rexrider
September 29, 2005, 04:05 PM
Looks like a really good way to screw up a perfectly good SKS, IMHO

MSGT9410
September 29, 2005, 04:12 PM
Looks like a really good way to screw up a perfectly good SKS, IMHO

I'll second that. It appears to me the only thing you'd gain out of this is a boost in your "coolness" I guess. Unless you're really inspired to have a compact 7.62x39 HD gun.

AJAX22
May 17, 2006, 03:24 PM
Ultimate Mall Ninja gun, and wicked expensive too.

that being said, take a look at the extended mag release thats part of the trigger housing, it looks alot easier than stock. wouldn't be a bad accessory by itself.

model 649
May 17, 2006, 04:53 PM
Weird looking. How does it fire, with linkage from the trigger? Almost looks uncomfortable to use as well as , well, idiotic with all that junk hanging from it. Kind of like a Rube Goldberg solution to a non-existant problem.
Josh

Foxtrot427
May 17, 2006, 04:56 PM
B.P. SPORTS' looked good. Shame it never came through.

Just_a_dude_with_a_gun
May 17, 2006, 04:57 PM
Bullpups are great for people who are already stone-deaf in their right ear. :)

SnP
May 17, 2006, 05:06 PM
Expensive.:what:

grimjaw
May 17, 2006, 06:56 PM
A friend of mine had an SKS that would eject shells straight up very forcibly. I see that the conversion has a shell deflector, but the added noise right next to your ear would be annoying.

Pick another rifle to hack up. SKS is not a good candidate.

jmm

mokin
January 13, 2007, 03:19 PM
I found the bullpup conversion rather nice. The match trigger group seems to increase accuracy, the red dot sight is accurate and possibly a little quicker in tactical shooting than the iron sights and the weight doesn't seem that much greater. I did not notice any difference with the muzzle brake. I did notice that when I fed carefully handloaded ammunition to the bullpup it spit the cases out into a much neater pile than it did the old Norinco or Wolf ammo. The bipod, which is included with the conversion kit is well built but not stable enough to be considered a good solid bench rest and not really practical in a 3 gun match. I consider the Rifletech magazine system the weak link but then again I experienced plenty of bad magazines with my M-16 in the Marines. Changing magazines is a whole new experience and I found that using the duckbill style mags was easier to do quickly than the Rifletech system. It is a little more difficult than reloading an M-16 but in a tactical situation requires little more "rearranging" than reloading an SKS through the top of the action. Converting an SKS to a bullpup with this kit will do no permenant harm to the rifle and may improve its' performance a little. If you are a bullpup fan and/or have more money than sense it's a good toy that will provide lots of fun.

Snappy_13
January 13, 2007, 05:10 PM
way too expensive, costs more than the rifle itself:rolleyes:

MikeH
January 13, 2007, 05:13 PM
Interesting. Needs a forward grip for the left hand though.

Won't need one if you got an oven mitt. :neener:

Jackal
January 13, 2007, 05:20 PM
That stock looks eerily like a hacked up ATI Dragunov stock. Compare them both and see what I mean.

lee n. field
January 13, 2007, 05:47 PM
For that price, I'd be looking into getting an AK. Or a basic AR build.

armoredman
January 13, 2007, 06:46 PM
mokin, welcome. Do you have pictures of your SKS bullpup setup, hopefully static and dynamic?
The one in the first post looks far to complicated, and I agree the SKS is not a typical first choice for such a setup. If there is a conversion both easy to use and worth it, that would be nice.

Technosavant
January 13, 2007, 07:02 PM
$475 for a kit for a <$200 SKS? And then the necessary 922r parts?

Interesting idea, but you're going past $800 for a SKS. I mean, they're decent rifles, but they're NOT $800 rifles, even dressed up.

silverlance
January 13, 2007, 09:10 PM
and now... anyone want to buy it?

drop-in stock replacement my butt!

more like requires a lot of tugging and pushing, and a dremel to wear down the magazine slot, wear down the handguard nubes, and a hacksaw to remove all the grenade launcher / bayonet / gl sight stuff so that you dont have all the weight of the rifle hanging off your supproting arm.

i had originally been so excited when i got the package. but, after struggling with it for three hours, i put it back into its yugo stock. i was suddenly struck by how wonderful the stock stock is... everything fits perfectly, and the wood feels so comforting and soft to me...

i was going to sell my yugo sks, but now I think I'll keep it. too bad the numbers match on everything but the bolt.

mokin
January 14, 2007, 01:26 PM
From reading this thread it appeared to me that a lot of you have seen the Rifletech website and had some questions about the bullpup conversion and performance of a converted rifle. From reading the responses it seems most of you question the price. I'll admit that I questioned my judgement there but what's done is done. Besides, have any of you contemplated what you can spend on a 10/22? If you want a rifle that is fast and easy to shoot you can find an AR-15 for a similar price. If you want to play like I do this is fun. As for a handguard for the left hand I get a very stable position by cupping my right hand with my left and keeping the stock firmly in my shoulder. This isn't a conventional rifle and doesn't need to be handled like one. It's more like a very big handgun. If you are interested in having a bullpup look up Muzzlelite conversion kits. They are much less expensive but also much less reliable. Sorry, no pictures....

mokin
January 14, 2007, 01:26 PM
From reading this thread it appeared to me that a lot of you have seen the Rifletech website and had some questions about the bullpup conversion and performance of a converted rifle. From reading the responses it seems most of you question the price. I'll admit that I questioned my judgement there but what's done is done. Besides, have any of you contemplated what you can spend on a 10/22? If you want a rifle that is fast and easy to shoot you can find an AR-15 for a similar price. If you want to play like I do this is fun. As for a handguard for the left hand I get a very stable position by cupping my right hand with my left and keeping the stock firmly in my shoulder. This isn't a conventional rifle and doesn't need to be handled like one. It's more like a very big handgun. If you are interested in having a bullpup look up Muzzlelite conversion kits. They are much less expensive but also much less reliable. Sorry, no pictures....

MatthewVanitas
January 14, 2007, 03:28 PM
Wow, this one lay dormant for a while.

FWIW, I'm currently planning to get a Dixie Consolidated bullpup stock for the 10/22, if they ever get through their backlog.

I'll admit, an SKS might not be the best platform for a bullpup. Both Dixie and Iron Wood have good-rep stuff out for the 10/22, perhaps one of those shops can work up an AK variant down the road.

Considering that all the new bullpups coming out are $1,400+, I'd imagine that a $350 AK bullpup stock would be a good alternative, even though it would cost as much as a basic WASR does alone.

-MV

Snappy_13
January 14, 2007, 11:22 PM
ugly

SniperStraz
January 14, 2007, 11:30 PM
Without the foreward grip it looks like its supposed to be used as a mini SWS of some sort or other. Very strange.

mokin
February 11, 2007, 08:18 PM
I'll admit it's sort of ugly.... But sort of in a cute way....

Zangetsu
February 13, 2008, 01:48 AM
You know, at first I thought this thing was really cool, but then after looking at it more, it really looks uncomfortable...but then again, so does the AUG, and I love the way that thing handles, so I'm going to have to reserve my judgment for this until after I get a chance to handle one. That being said, it looks like it's a pain to change mags, and that it really, really needs a grip for the left hand; although I'm sure stacking the grip like you guys mentioned works fine, don't you think it'd be more comfortable if you could hold it like a conventional rifle?

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