Anyone ever hear the story about the pistol master who took on 3 gunmen?


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akanotken
March 28, 2003, 08:02 PM
Long title just about says it all. One of my shooting buds heard that some pistolero (ipsc or idpa master) , probably in Israel who survived an ambush. 3 gunmen got the worst of it.

Don't know when it happened, year or more ago is my guess.

I hope it's more than an urban myth.


On the flipside, I've heard of a story where a competitor took on 3 bg's, but instead of shooting each one once he decided to double tap, or 2 to the body 1 to the head, or something. Killed the first 2, then died at the hands of the third. Again,don't know if it's true. Gotta be a lesson in there somewhere.

TIA

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Navy joe
March 28, 2003, 08:30 PM
Well there was that filipino IPSC guy a few years ago that was shot and stabbed in an attack, he returned fire and ended up beating the attacker with his gun. Tough cookie. Don't know a link. On the downside there was the French IPSC shooter who went in and cleaned house at his town council meeting, Injuring a dozen or so and several dead.

Combat pistolsports aren't magic, but it is certainly not a bad thing to be very used to handling your weapons under stress and in a hurry. They also teach thinking your way through a problem. With that in mind I doubt it is likely that shooters will by rote double tap or not use cover or whatever. If you are any good or like me trying to be better you constantly evaluate the situation you are in. You don't just shoot twice and move on, some targets get 3 or 4 if your trigger break sight pic didn't feel right or the target doesn't react. You constantly adapt to the course changing as you shoot. Good skills.

Bonker
March 28, 2003, 08:33 PM
Ever heard of Sgt. York? :)

Standing Wolf
March 28, 2003, 08:57 PM
Ever heard of Sgt. York?

Oh, I hate those trick history questions!

Yohan
March 28, 2003, 09:20 PM
Sgt. Alvin York

On the morning of 8 October 1918, elements of the 328th Infantry, 82nd Division, United States Army, were pinned down by German machine-gun fire. Seventeen men, under the command of Sgt. Bernard Early, were ordered to out-flank the machine guns.

Shortly after they left their own lines, they came across a German officer and several soldiers having breakfast. Believing that they were surrounded, the Germans surrendered. However, before Early could detach a man to take the prisoners back through the lines, intensive machine gun fire swept the patrol. Eight American soldiers survived. Sgt. Early was killed. As the remaining non-com, Cpl. Alvin York took command of the patrol. While the remaining Americans covered their prisoners, trying at the same time to avoid enemy fire, York spotted the location of the German guns, about 30 yards away. In addition to his Enfield M1917 rifle, he also carried a Colt .45 automatic pistol. The German gunners peeked over the tops of their Maxim guns to avoid hitting their own men.

With the appearance of each face, framed in its "coal-scuttle" helmet, York's Enfield spoke. One shot equaled one dead gunner. York was from the Tennessee mountains where firearms were used to put food on the table. Mountain folk were frugal, making each shot count.

Unnoticed by York, several Germans moved forward, locating York's position. Out of sight, they counted the shots from York's rifle, establishing the pattern of his shooting. They counted a series of 5 shots from his Enfield and rushed York to gain the advantage of the few extra seconds it took to reload the rifle.

As the Germans charged, they came into easy pistol range. York brought the .45 automatic into action, stopping the patrol in its tracks. He continued shooting and advancing, killing a total of 25 German soldiers and capturing 132 by himself. York was promoted to Sergeant and awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.

:D

Baba Louie
March 28, 2003, 10:38 PM
Yohan,

You forgot to add that while using the Colt he shot the charging Germans farthest first to closest last. Or so the story goes.

Adios

Leadbutt
March 29, 2003, 02:05 AM
IT was Officer Cirrilo with the NYPD stake out squad

Don Gwinn
March 29, 2003, 08:22 AM
Col. Cooper tells the story of an acquaintance who took on three assassins in an office in South America once, but as I recall the man did not survive the encounter. :( I believe Cooper says he derived some lesson about gunfighting from the incident, probably to do with awareness, but that's all I remember.

I guess I need to read it again. It was in To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth.

beckrodgers
March 30, 2003, 11:50 AM
We read the story in S o F magazine a while back .Thanks

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