Anyone work on a military base?


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Fletchette
September 30, 2005, 12:48 PM
I have a friend that works for a engineering firm at an Air Force base, so he frequently has access to their "public" computers on base. He said that if he tries to access any internet sites regarding firearms, he is blocked and receives a warning message, "Illegal skills".

Anyone else have this experience?

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TOADMAN
September 30, 2005, 01:10 PM
DOD is worried about waste, fraud and abuse!

NoahFN
September 30, 2005, 01:32 PM
I work on an Air Force Base. Fortunately, my company has our own web access setup so my company controls the internet access. We have few, if any sites that are actually blocked, but our surfing is monitored.

Many companies are tied into the government network and are forced to follow the government computer policies. I haven't been on any of these computers, so I'm not certain on the restrictions. It wouldn't suprise me if the internet access is severely limited though.

Model520Fan
September 30, 2005, 01:37 PM
I have a friend that works for a engineering firm at an Air Force base, so he frequently has access to their "public" computers on base. He said that if he tries to access any internet sites regarding firearms, he is blocked and receives a warning message, "Illegal skills".



Makes sense to me. After all, the Air Force is not really a military organization.

Langenator
September 30, 2005, 02:12 PM
It depends on the individual post's IT dept, or, as the Army calls it, Directorate of Information Management (DOIM; very Orwellian IMO).

At Ft Jackson, I couldn't access almost anything gun related, to include Colt's website, among many unaccessable firearms manufacturers.

At Lewis, I can get to most of those sites, but not Blogger or anything in the blogspot domain. All up to whoever runs the filters.

Can'thavenuthingood
September 30, 2005, 02:20 PM
Aboard NAS Lemoore, Ca. I'm able to get anywhere on the system. Read THR, Cabella's, Guns America, Davidson's etc.

I suspect a local policy or a local yokel doing his/her censoring.

We cannot buy firearms, slingshots or bows and arrows aboard the air station as the Navy Exchange system will not carry them.

Vick

sarhog
September 30, 2005, 02:32 PM
Out of the last 4 military bases I have been stationed on, I could access any web page I wanted, except for MCAS Iwakuni. There, we were blocked from all commercial e-mail sites (yahoo mail, hotmail, etc.).

Ohen Cepel
September 30, 2005, 02:34 PM
Part of is it DOD policy, part of it is the IT guy/commander who "interprets" the policy. Some of them go WAAAAAAAY overboard in blocking sites :banghead:

Digex2
September 30, 2005, 03:06 PM
Makes sense to me. After all, the Air Force is not really a military organization. +20 there for ignorance.

CAS700850
September 30, 2005, 04:18 PM
It's funny, our IT department recently installed Websense with a tremendous number of blocks, but I can get here anytime I want. As for firearms blocks, I properly had them removed as being work related.

Azrael256
September 30, 2005, 04:38 PM
Wow, you think that's bad, I got one for ya'. My university has some contacts with the folks down at Tinker AFB. Evidently some of the VA/GI bill/TriCare/etc. processing goes through there (though I have no idea why), so a couple of their people need access to our system. Of course, anything TriCare is HIPPA, and they're kinda touchy about the other records going out unencrypted as well, so they needed VPN access to the appropriate stuff on our end.

Unless you've tried it, you cannot imagine what a hassle it is to get a workstation on base configured with the software, and get all the routing and assorted firewalls (I saw at least half a dozen between the office at Tinker and the outside universe, and I know they didn't let me see half of their security stuff) configured to allow a single measly VPN tunnel through. After two weeks of daily phone calls with one person after another, we finally settled for an isolated workstation that dialed directly into the university because we realized it would literally take an act of congress to get the security folks at the base to let this run through their network. I'm all for security, but sheesh!

AirForceShooter
September 30, 2005, 05:55 PM
if the Air force isn't a military organization why were all those nasty people shooting at me.
A few even hit me.
That sucked

AFS

Azrael256
September 30, 2005, 05:58 PM
why were all those nasty people shooting at me Were I in your shoes, I would speculate that had a decent reason to shoot. I mean, let's face it, I'm not a nice guy.

But I think if you looked into Model520Fan's past, you would find the word "Army" on something, which would explain the potshots at the air force.

Old Dog
September 30, 2005, 06:05 PM
Strangely enough, when our bases went from locally and regionally controlled systems, converting to the Navy-Marine Corps Intranet (NMCI), we seemed to have more access to different websites (although I'm sure those dedicated AIS folks will someday soon figure out how to cheat all us military guys out of being able to access gun websites). 'Course, for some of us, we can sort of justify looking at firearms stuff on the 'net, since it can be justifiably considered part of our job.


My Air Force brothers, lighten up, please ... you should be proud of your golf courses ... ;)

Lennyjoe
September 30, 2005, 07:59 PM
Depends on what filters they are using. It looks for specific words such as guns, porn or chat.

Our filters won't let me go to TFL but I can read THR, gunbroker and the such.

tuna
September 30, 2005, 08:58 PM
It's spotty. I can't access anything that says "chat" whether or not it is a chat room or not. But certain boards I can access from work. I can't get to any sales sites (a la gunbroker) but most "forums" I can get to.

Doesn't make any sense at all.

Gifted
October 2, 2005, 07:51 PM
My Air Force brothers, lighten up, please ... you should be proud of your golf courses ... I was more proud of the skeet range than the golf course. I see no point in a golf course in the middle of New Mexico. I've never been a golf fan anyway, so :neener:

MillCreek
October 2, 2005, 07:55 PM
I am reminded of a PhotoShopped picture that I saw once. The caption was: 'If the Air Force had an aircraft carrier', and the picture was of a Nimitz class carrier with the flight deck surface replaced by a couple of golf greens. Pretty funny, actually.

Lennyjoe
October 2, 2005, 09:34 PM
Sounds like all the other branches are jealous of us Air Force folks. :neener:

OH25shooter
October 3, 2005, 05:39 PM
Hmmm, the Army/MC sleeps in the dirt. The Navy on a rocking ship far away. The AF sleeps in a nice bed in the barracks with a tv room. Who's the dummy? :) Aim High

Seven High
October 3, 2005, 09:37 PM
Why walk to war when you can fly there. USAF all the way! :)

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